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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2007/11/ppi-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-48309</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;http://sopra&lt;/strong&gt;

Il 14 novembre la FEDERAL_RESERVE ha immesso nel sistema ben 47 mld di dollari con operazioni a brevissimo termine, accettando collaterali mortgagebacked per circa 23 mld di dollari. Questo dimostra ampiamente che la crisi  solo all&#039;inizio e la
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<p>Il 14 novembre la FEDERAL_RESERVE ha immesso nel sistema ben 47 mld di dollari con operazioni a brevissimo termine, accettando collaterali mortgagebacked per circa 23 mld di dollari. Questo dimostra ampiamente che la crisi  solo all&#8217;inizio e la</p>
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		<title>By: Jay in Cairo</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2007/11/ppi-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-48308</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay in Cairo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of this article is strikingly similar to another I read...that predates yours. Are you citing all of your sources?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of this article is strikingly similar to another I read&#8230;that predates yours. Are you citing all of your sources?</p>
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2007/11/ppi-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-48307</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why don&#039;t they average over the month? Any reasonably bright 12-year-old could have figured that out.&lt;/i&gt;

It is because we don&#039;t have any bright twelve year olds in government.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why don&#8217;t they average over the month? Any reasonably bright 12-year-old could have figured that out.</i></p>
<p>It is because we don&#8217;t have any bright twelve year olds in government.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston Munn</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2007/11/ppi-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-48306</link>
		<dc:creator>Winston Munn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat Group,

One more time, just to be helpful, the story of repurchase agreements - or repos.

If you listen only to the headlines, you will be thrown off.  First, these &quot;infusions&quot; are only short term loans.  Second, to know the entire amount &quot;infused&quot; on a given day, the repos must be subtracted from the repo expirations of the same day plus any needed treasury demand.


This &quot;repo action&quot; is not money thrown into the general economy - this is money lent to banks.  The banks usually lend to each other, but when money gets tight or the collateral is suspect, banks are unwilling to lend or want to charge more than the federal funds rate.

In that case, the fed steps in and makes repurchase agreements with the cash-strapped bank, taking collateral against a loan - usually an overnight loan, although 7-day and 14-day repos are also used.

Today&#039;s $47.25 repo action was offset by repo expirations (money that had to be paid back today) of $40.5 billion plus today&#039;s needed treasury department demand, which was $6.5 billion.

Net, there was only $0.25 billion of new money infused into the system today that could have gone toward stock or bond purchases.

What most people don&#039;t grasp is the significance of the huge repo auction today wasn&#039;t that net money was infused into the system but that so much was needed to cover the banks&#039; inability or unwillingness to lend to each other.  The significance is that it is getting harder and harder for banks to borrow the money they need to function.
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<p>One more time, just to be helpful, the story of repurchase agreements &#8211; or repos.</p>
<p>If you listen only to the headlines, you will be thrown off.  First, these &#8220;infusions&#8221; are only short term loans.  Second, to know the entire amount &#8220;infused&#8221; on a given day, the repos must be subtracted from the repo expirations of the same day plus any needed treasury demand.</p>
<p>This &#8220;repo action&#8221; is not money thrown into the general economy &#8211; this is money lent to banks.  The banks usually lend to each other, but when money gets tight or the collateral is suspect, banks are unwilling to lend or want to charge more than the federal funds rate.</p>
<p>In that case, the fed steps in and makes repurchase agreements with the cash-strapped bank, taking collateral against a loan &#8211; usually an overnight loan, although 7-day and 14-day repos are also used.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s $47.25 repo action was offset by repo expirations (money that had to be paid back today) of $40.5 billion plus today&#8217;s needed treasury department demand, which was $6.5 billion.</p>
<p>Net, there was only $0.25 billion of new money infused into the system today that could have gone toward stock or bond purchases.</p>
<p>What most people don&#8217;t grasp is the significance of the huge repo auction today wasn&#8217;t that net money was infused into the system but that so much was needed to cover the banks&#8217; inability or unwillingness to lend to each other.  The significance is that it is getting harder and harder for banks to borrow the money they need to function.</p>
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		<title>By: a guy called john</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2007/11/ppi-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-48305</link>
		<dc:creator>a guy called john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i did an informal poll of businesses around my neighborhood.  8 out of 11 said they stock up on a full month&#039;s worth of gas the Tuesday of the week where the 13th falls.  the other three either it bought on the monday or wednesday of the same week!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i did an informal poll of businesses around my neighborhood.  8 out of 11 said they stock up on a full month&#8217;s worth of gas the Tuesday of the week where the 13th falls.  the other three either it bought on the monday or wednesday of the same week!</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat Gorup, they &quot;infuse&quot; $47 bio and then take it back within a few days.  It&#039;s a repo.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat Gorup, they &#8220;infuse&#8221; $47 bio and then take it back within a few days.  It&#8217;s a repo.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Gorup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Gorup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Down, huh?  Regarding inflation, I was more interested in the FED&#039;s infusion of another $47B today.  It was the largest sum since 9-18-01.  Does anyone have a running total on what the FED has &quot;infused&quot; this year?  Or collectively; all central banks?  So much attention is given to the FED interest rate game that I wonder; that of the two actions which has the best potential for being the most inflationary.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Down, huh?  Regarding inflation, I was more interested in the FED&#8217;s infusion of another $47B today.  It was the largest sum since 9-18-01.  Does anyone have a running total on what the FED has &#8220;infused&#8221; this year?  Or collectively; all central banks?  So much attention is given to the FED interest rate game that I wonder; that of the two actions which has the best potential for being the most inflationary.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The methodology of sampling one day of the month is perfectly fine for predicting a longterm trend. If the month of October doesn&#039;t fully account for the increases you are hoping to see, November will more than account for it if the trend continues - it works both ways.

From a statistics viewpoint, having more number crunchers collect 30 times more data will not improve the accuracy of the longterm trend that&#039;s being tracked. Instead, it will just add more overhead with little results.

All this crying is ridiculous.....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The methodology of sampling one day of the month is perfectly fine for predicting a longterm trend. If the month of October doesn&#8217;t fully account for the increases you are hoping to see, November will more than account for it if the trend continues &#8211; it works both ways.</p>
<p>From a statistics viewpoint, having more number crunchers collect 30 times more data will not improve the accuracy of the longterm trend that&#8217;s being tracked. Instead, it will just add more overhead with little results.</p>
<p>All this crying is ridiculous&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: TimW</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DeltaVerde and others.. the story of a grand political conspiracy is unlikely, in my opinion.  I work for an economic indicator (not BLS, so I can&#039;t speak for them).  It&#039;s unlikely that your typical agency working on the methodology for an economic survey would just willingly change methodology for some political appointee.  There would have to be a good, statistical reason for the change... or I grant you some major incompetence or bamboozling going on.

Where I am there would be institutional resistance to changes in methodology that was perceived to be politically motivated.  First of all, the politicos that I deal with have very little knowledge of the technical details of the methodology that we use.  Their knowledge is more cursory.  It&#039;s the career people who really run things.  Most of them are solid Democrat, BTW.  This goes up the line to the top career official at my agency who has made it known that he doesn&#039;t like it when we go brief D.C. on our data and they grin and don&#039;t ask the tough questions when we give them good news but take a totally different tack when it&#039;s &quot;bad&quot; news.

So I think the idea of a grand conspiracy driven by partisan politics is unlikely.  If there is poor methodology on the surveys it&#039;s more likely to be incompetence and poor professional oversight.  I can&#039;t speak for BLS, but where I stand, I just don&#039;t see that happening.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DeltaVerde and others.. the story of a grand political conspiracy is unlikely, in my opinion.  I work for an economic indicator (not BLS, so I can&#8217;t speak for them).  It&#8217;s unlikely that your typical agency working on the methodology for an economic survey would just willingly change methodology for some political appointee.  There would have to be a good, statistical reason for the change&#8230; or I grant you some major incompetence or bamboozling going on.</p>
<p>Where I am there would be institutional resistance to changes in methodology that was perceived to be politically motivated.  First of all, the politicos that I deal with have very little knowledge of the technical details of the methodology that we use.  Their knowledge is more cursory.  It&#8217;s the career people who really run things.  Most of them are solid Democrat, BTW.  This goes up the line to the top career official at my agency who has made it known that he doesn&#8217;t like it when we go brief D.C. on our data and they grin and don&#8217;t ask the tough questions when we give them good news but take a totally different tack when it&#8217;s &#8220;bad&#8221; news.</p>
<p>So I think the idea of a grand conspiracy driven by partisan politics is unlikely.  If there is poor methodology on the surveys it&#8217;s more likely to be incompetence and poor professional oversight.  I can&#8217;t speak for BLS, but where I stand, I just don&#8217;t see that happening.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sternfeld</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2007/11/ppi-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-48300</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sternfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slightly OT: How can anyone be surprised with ANY economic info published by these political hacks? They are directed by the same incompetents who&#039;ve for five years have been telling us the great progress we&#039;ve been experiencing in Iraq. (snark)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slightly OT: How can anyone be surprised with ANY economic info published by these political hacks? They are directed by the same incompetents who&#8217;ve for five years have been telling us the great progress we&#8217;ve been experiencing in Iraq. (snark)</p>
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