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	<title>Comments on: Fix the Credit Problem, Not its Symptoms</title>
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		<title>By: Political Animal</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/10/fix-the-credit-problem-not-its-symptoms/comment-page-2/#comment-119526</link>
		<dc:creator>Political Animal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bailout 2.0&lt;/strong&gt;

Bailout 2.0 From the WSJ: &quot;The U.S. government is expected to take stakes in nine of the nation&#039;s top financial institutions as part of a new plan to restore confidence to the battered U.S. banking system, a far-reaching effort that...
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<p>Bailout 2.0 From the WSJ: &#8220;The U.S. government is expected to take stakes in nine of the nation&#8217;s top financial institutions as part of a new plan to restore confidence to the battered U.S. banking system, a far-reaching effort that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Newmark's Door</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/10/fix-the-credit-problem-not-its-symptoms/comment-page-2/#comment-119525</link>
		<dc:creator>Newmark's Door</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The must-read pieces in the Wall Street Journal (online dated Oct. 11)&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;Rescue Plan Comes Around to Views of the Academics&quot;. I think it&#039;s early to declare victory--especially since we&#039;ve yet to find out that if the government does what academic economists advise that it will help--but it does look like the...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The must-read pieces in the Wall Street Journal (online dated Oct. 11)</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Rescue Plan Comes Around to Views of the Academics&#8221;. I think it&#8217;s early to declare victory&#8211;especially since we&#8217;ve yet to find out that if the government does what academic economists advise that it will help&#8211;but it does look like the&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Newmark's Door</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/10/fix-the-credit-problem-not-its-symptoms/comment-page-2/#comment-122945</link>
		<dc:creator>Newmark's Door</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The must-read pieces in the Wall Street Journal (online dated Oct. 11)&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;Rescue Plan Comes Around to Views of the Academics&quot;. I think it&#039;s early to declare victory--especially since we&#039;ve yet to find out that if the government does what academic economists advise that it will help--but it does look like the...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The must-read pieces in the Wall Street Journal (online dated Oct. 11)</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Rescue Plan Comes Around to Views of the Academics&#8221;. I think it&#8217;s early to declare victory&#8211;especially since we&#8217;ve yet to find out that if the government does what academic economists advise that it will help&#8211;but it does look like the&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Newmark's Door</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/10/fix-the-credit-problem-not-its-symptoms/comment-page-2/#comment-123708</link>
		<dc:creator>Newmark's Door</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The must-read pieces in the Wall Street Journal (online dated Oct. 11)&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;Rescue Plan Comes Around to Views of the Academics&quot;. I think it&#039;s early to declare victory--especially since we&#039;ve yet to find out that if the government does what academic economists advise that it will help--but it does look like the...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The must-read pieces in the Wall Street Journal (online dated Oct. 11)</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Rescue Plan Comes Around to Views of the Academics&#8221;. I think it&#8217;s early to declare victory&#8211;especially since we&#8217;ve yet to find out that if the government does what academic economists advise that it will help&#8211;but it does look like the&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joyce Abraham</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/10/fix-the-credit-problem-not-its-symptoms/comment-page-2/#comment-119524</link>
		<dc:creator>Joyce Abraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what do we do besides pray and pay?  I am a retired senior and angry.  I am also a member of Myinvestorsplace.com., where answers and solutions are sought.  Any ideas??
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what do we do besides pray and pay?  I am a retired senior and angry.  I am also a member of Myinvestorsplace.com., where answers and solutions are sought.  Any ideas??</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/10/fix-the-credit-problem-not-its-symptoms/comment-page-2/#comment-119523</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 08:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry, you say &quot;The thing roiling markets today is not the lack of confidence; It is capital, or more accurately, the lack thereof&quot;.  How is this not in large part because of the continuing fall in asset prices? As house prices drop banks are forced to lower the book value of their CDOs, which lowers their reserve ratio, which forces them to raise more cash and lend out less.

Moral hazard and affordability considerations must be put aside immediately and house prices stabilized.

How about this simple approach which can be implemented in one day and costs nothing at the outset:

Have the US government guarantee all primary home purchases in the next six months against loss of value as long as the owner stays in it for four years.  If after 4 years the home is sold for 10-20% less than purchase price the government will cover 50% of the loss.  75% if over 20%.

Besides the aforementioned benefits, this approach would:
- Inject confidence in the market so people on the sidelines waiting for a bottom are much more likely to jump in, thereby slowing the downward spiral in prices.
- No application, approval or signup process, so it can be implemented by passing a bill and having a press conference.
- If market prices do stabilize no claims will be made and the program cost will be zero.
- If they don&#039;t, banks include the government guarantee in their books when valuing the notes.  Also, costs will be deferred and incurred over time (most participants won&#039;t sell right at 4 year anniversary).
- Simple limits such as 1 million max property value, and one property guarantee per family (no corporations or trusts) will minimize speculation and abuse.
- Everyone is eligible automatically, so no preferential treatment, or gaming the system.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry, you say &#8220;The thing roiling markets today is not the lack of confidence; It is capital, or more accurately, the lack thereof&#8221;.  How is this not in large part because of the continuing fall in asset prices? As house prices drop banks are forced to lower the book value of their CDOs, which lowers their reserve ratio, which forces them to raise more cash and lend out less.</p>
<p>Moral hazard and affordability considerations must be put aside immediately and house prices stabilized.</p>
<p>How about this simple approach which can be implemented in one day and costs nothing at the outset:</p>
<p>Have the US government guarantee all primary home purchases in the next six months against loss of value as long as the owner stays in it for four years.  If after 4 years the home is sold for 10-20% less than purchase price the government will cover 50% of the loss.  75% if over 20%.</p>
<p>Besides the aforementioned benefits, this approach would:<br />
- Inject confidence in the market so people on the sidelines waiting for a bottom are much more likely to jump in, thereby slowing the downward spiral in prices.<br />
- No application, approval or signup process, so it can be implemented by passing a bill and having a press conference.<br />
- If market prices do stabilize no claims will be made and the program cost will be zero.<br />
- If they don&#8217;t, banks include the government guarantee in their books when valuing the notes.  Also, costs will be deferred and incurred over time (most participants won&#8217;t sell right at 4 year anniversary).<br />
- Simple limits such as 1 million max property value, and one property guarantee per family (no corporations or trusts) will minimize speculation and abuse.<br />
- Everyone is eligible automatically, so no preferential treatment, or gaming the system.</p>
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		<title>By: b-psycho</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/10/fix-the-credit-problem-not-its-symptoms/comment-page-2/#comment-119522</link>
		<dc:creator>b-psycho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: the fractional reserve banking mention:

Wouldn&#039;t it have been much simpler to just say that fractional reserve banking actually &lt;i&gt;doesn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; work, if indeed it ever truly did for anything but the most basic, localized use?  Seriously, if the government itself has to recapitalize banks I don&#039;t see how that can be classified as other than systemic Fail.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the fractional reserve banking mention:</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been much simpler to just say that fractional reserve banking actually <i>doesn&#8217;t</i> work, if indeed it ever truly did for anything but the most basic, localized use?  Seriously, if the government itself has to recapitalize banks I don&#8217;t see how that can be classified as other than systemic Fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve from Maryland</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/10/fix-the-credit-problem-not-its-symptoms/comment-page-2/#comment-119521</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve from Maryland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The primary problem is that banks are refusing to extend credit to each other. Why? Because they do not understand the liabilities of their counterparties.&quot;

Are we sure this is the reason for such little inter-bank spending?  Lots of people and institutions are cashing-out accounts.  Perhaps the banks CAN&#039;T lend because their cash reserves are below permissible levels.  The implications of this scenario are very different and more concerning than a simple matter of suspicion among banks.

Are there any near real-time data on cash reserve holdings of banks?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The primary problem is that banks are refusing to extend credit to each other. Why? Because they do not understand the liabilities of their counterparties.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are we sure this is the reason for such little inter-bank spending?  Lots of people and institutions are cashing-out accounts.  Perhaps the banks CAN&#8217;T lend because their cash reserves are below permissible levels.  The implications of this scenario are very different and more concerning than a simple matter of suspicion among banks.</p>
<p>Are there any near real-time data on cash reserve holdings of banks?</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Training</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/10/fix-the-credit-problem-not-its-symptoms/comment-page-2/#comment-119520</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Training</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 07:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very interesting and predictive post. I read an article in the Fin Review last week that predicted 2.8 million mortgage defaults in the USA in the next 12 months. That is very, very scary indeed.

It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if Russia, Iran, or North Korea take advantage of this crisis and the upcoming US election to launch some sort of attack or grab for territory.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting and predictive post. I read an article in the Fin Review last week that predicted 2.8 million mortgage defaults in the USA in the next 12 months. That is very, very scary indeed.</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if Russia, Iran, or North Korea take advantage of this crisis and the upcoming US election to launch some sort of attack or grab for territory.</p>
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		<title>By: philipat</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/10/fix-the-credit-problem-not-its-symptoms/comment-page-2/#comment-119519</link>
		<dc:creator>philipat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why people keep referring to this as &quot;Nationalisation&quot;? I believe this is just political rhetoric because it could just as well be described as an investment. Just like Buffett, the taxpayer gets a 10% return on Preferred stock and sells it at a profit down the road. That&#039;s a good investment which simultaneously fixes the banking system.

Incidentally, PLEASE let&#039;s not forget to fix the regulatory problems and the inherent conflicts of interest in the Rating Agencies. Let&#039;s also get ALL derivatives traded on an exchange No more OTC B/S and no more SIV&#039;s, Conduits and the like.

Then we can make a fresh start and wait for the next round of financial creativity, which WILL happen. One of the lessons our Wall St friends have learned is that you take your money before the sh*t hits the fan, you will be OK and the Government will pick up the tab so no problem. That depressing reality almost guarantees it will all happen over again if we allow them more than half a chance.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why people keep referring to this as &#8220;Nationalisation&#8221;? I believe this is just political rhetoric because it could just as well be described as an investment. Just like Buffett, the taxpayer gets a 10% return on Preferred stock and sells it at a profit down the road. That&#8217;s a good investment which simultaneously fixes the banking system.</p>
<p>Incidentally, PLEASE let&#8217;s not forget to fix the regulatory problems and the inherent conflicts of interest in the Rating Agencies. Let&#8217;s also get ALL derivatives traded on an exchange No more OTC B/S and no more SIV&#8217;s, Conduits and the like.</p>
<p>Then we can make a fresh start and wait for the next round of financial creativity, which WILL happen. One of the lessons our Wall St friends have learned is that you take your money before the sh*t hits the fan, you will be OK and the Government will pick up the tab so no problem. That depressing reality almost guarantees it will all happen over again if we allow them more than half a chance.</p>
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