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	<title>Comments on: AIG&#8217;s New Plan: Restructuring is now $150 Billion</title>
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		<title>By: Bruce in Tn</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/aig-restructuring-now-150-billion/comment-page-1/#comment-125440</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce in Tn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t we just make Warren Buffet buy more warrants here?  This time in AIG?  I mean, isn&#039;t he going to leave everything to charity anyway?

Perhaps if we send him a chain letter....?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t we just make Warren Buffet buy more warrants here?  This time in AIG?  I mean, isn&#8217;t he going to leave everything to charity anyway?</p>
<p>Perhaps if we send him a chain letter&#8230;.?</p>
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		<title>By: Soylent Green Is People</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/aig-restructuring-now-150-billion/comment-page-1/#comment-125404</link>
		<dc:creator>Soylent Green Is People</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So AIG gets a loan modification.  The failure rate on modified consumer mortgage loans is around 40% or higher.  What does everyone think AIG&#039;s chances are then...?

As an American, I now am a partial owner of several banks, a large insurance company, and will soon own a car manufacturer.  The madness of trying to socialize the impact, yet inevitability,  of failure must be realized by the citizenry soon before it&#039;s too late. 

My .02 SGIP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So AIG gets a loan modification.  The failure rate on modified consumer mortgage loans is around 40% or higher.  What does everyone think AIG&#8217;s chances are then&#8230;?</p>
<p>As an American, I now am a partial owner of several banks, a large insurance company, and will soon own a car manufacturer.  The madness of trying to socialize the impact, yet inevitability,  of failure must be realized by the citizenry soon before it&#8217;s too late. </p>
<p>My .02 SGIP</p>
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		<title>By: Pat G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In for a penny, in for a pound.  Unfortunately, this is where our government has put our money and there is no going back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In for a penny, in for a pound.  Unfortunately, this is where our government has put our money and there is no going back.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A cautionary tale about placating restive constituents through unsustainable disbursements from the Treasury:

&quot;Professor Steve Hanke, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute in the United States, said Zimbabwe’s annual inflation had soared to 2.79 quintillion percent, a world record in many respects. A quintillion is a figure with 18 zeroes and is a rung above a quadrillion.&quot;

http://www.thezimbabwestandard.com/business/19196-zimbabwe-inflation-at-shocking-levels.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A cautionary tale about placating restive constituents through unsustainable disbursements from the Treasury:</p>
<p>&#8220;Professor Steve Hanke, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute in the United States, said Zimbabwe’s annual inflation had soared to 2.79 quintillion percent, a world record in many respects. A quintillion is a figure with 18 zeroes and is a rung above a quadrillion.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thezimbabwestandard.com/business/19196-zimbabwe-inflation-at-shocking-levels.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thezimbabwestandard.com/business/19196-zimbabwe-inflation-at-shocking-levels.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: buzzp</title>
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		<dc:creator>buzzp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BR, small math error: 150-85=65, then 65/85=76.5%, not 70%

re: Bruce comment - it isn&#039;t the making of cars, it&#039;s the rage of the retired autoworkers - currently the big 3 (maybe medium 3 is better) employ around 200K - but there are far more retired/bought-out folk out there, and letting the dinosaurs go under is toxic to them, and they are legion

not to forget that many big 3 dealers are long-time political funders in their local markets, and that they have legions of workers too - yeah I know they may not all lose their jobs, but try and tell them that in the current conditions....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BR, small math error: 150-85=65, then 65/85=76.5%, not 70%</p>
<p>re: Bruce comment &#8211; it isn&#8217;t the making of cars, it&#8217;s the rage of the retired autoworkers &#8211; currently the big 3 (maybe medium 3 is better) employ around 200K &#8211; but there are far more retired/bought-out folk out there, and letting the dinosaurs go under is toxic to them, and they are legion</p>
<p>not to forget that many big 3 dealers are long-time political funders in their local markets, and that they have legions of workers too &#8211; yeah I know they may not all lose their jobs, but try and tell them that in the current conditions&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce in Tn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce in Tn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But at least AIG has a product that is competitive (insurance)..when we give the money to the big 3, people will still prefer foreign cars, or even worse, foreign designed cars built better in the USA than Detroit can do.  

If you saw Wilbur Ross Friday, he makes the point that if auto worker wages are 35/hour in Detroit, foreign cars are being built in the South at 17/hour.  Well, hell, to Mr. Ross, this lack of competitive labor costs in the Detroit area was reason to bail out these dinosaurs.  I would say, if we do, money down a rat hole.  They are being beaten by transplanted factories within the borders of the US.....What will change if we give them 50 billion?  NOT A THING....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But at least AIG has a product that is competitive (insurance)..when we give the money to the big 3, people will still prefer foreign cars, or even worse, foreign designed cars built better in the USA than Detroit can do.  </p>
<p>If you saw Wilbur Ross Friday, he makes the point that if auto worker wages are 35/hour in Detroit, foreign cars are being built in the South at 17/hour.  Well, hell, to Mr. Ross, this lack of competitive labor costs in the Detroit area was reason to bail out these dinosaurs.  I would say, if we do, money down a rat hole.  They are being beaten by transplanted factories within the borders of the US&#8230;..What will change if we give them 50 billion?  NOT A THING&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: harold hecuba</title>
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		<dc:creator>harold hecuba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>time to take the torch and start burning these black holes to the ground</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>time to take the torch and start burning these black holes to the ground</p>
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