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	<title>Comments on: Has the Market Fully Discounted the Bush Presidency ?</title>
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		<title>By: ghyatt</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/has-the-market-fully-discounted-the-bush-presidency/comment-page-1/#comment-124485</link>
		<dc:creator>ghyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>glad to see your going back to econ and stock market; this topic is such a stretch as to not deserve a comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>glad to see your going back to econ and stock market; this topic is such a stretch as to not deserve a comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jojo99</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/has-the-market-fully-discounted-the-bush-presidency/comment-page-1/#comment-124479</link>
		<dc:creator>Jojo99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many here are using RSS to read blogs like The Big Picture?  If you&#039;re not then you are wasting precious time.

Here&#039;s a really nice simple overview of how to get started with RSS.  Once you get setup, you&#039;ll never go back to hunting and pecking through one website after another!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0klgLsSxGsU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Video: RSS in Plain English&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many here are using RSS to read blogs like The Big Picture?  If you&#8217;re not then you are wasting precious time.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a really nice simple overview of how to get started with RSS.  Once you get setup, you&#8217;ll never go back to hunting and pecking through one website after another!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0klgLsSxGsU" rel="nofollow">Video: RSS in Plain English</a></p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/has-the-market-fully-discounted-the-bush-presidency/comment-page-1/#comment-124478</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Karen. I find the new format to be easier and more inviting for comment. The old system, where you had to type in the letters in the box to verify that you are a person could be challenging (I&#039;m color blind and some of those overlapping letters merged on me if they were certain colors).

Also, I don&#039;t see how the tabs have any impact on posting. I don&#039;t click on any of them. I just go to the main page and read what&#039;s there (and comment, if I feel bold). If you are worried about someone posting on a different tab, stop it. Pick a tab and stick with it :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Karen. I find the new format to be easier and more inviting for comment. The old system, where you had to type in the letters in the box to verify that you are a person could be challenging (I&#8217;m color blind and some of those overlapping letters merged on me if they were certain colors).</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t see how the tabs have any impact on posting. I don&#8217;t click on any of them. I just go to the main page and read what&#8217;s there (and comment, if I feel bold). If you are worried about someone posting on a different tab, stop it. Pick a tab and stick with it <img src='http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mythiot</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/has-the-market-fully-discounted-the-bush-presidency/comment-page-1/#comment-124474</link>
		<dc:creator>Mythiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A minor point on logging in. If you can&#039;t remember the password, that&#039;s a good thing. Because if you &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; remember your passwords, then you&#039;re probably using variants of the same password on all your sites, which is hardly secure. With a password manager, all your passwords are secure and you only need to remember one master password. There are several available -- I came across www.LastPass.com on Charles Kirk&#039;s blog, of all places, and it works fine.

Absolutely great blog, BR, and many thanks for the amazing amount of work you put into it. But where&#039;s the pooch?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A minor point on logging in. If you can&#8217;t remember the password, that&#8217;s a good thing. Because if you <em>can</em> remember your passwords, then you&#8217;re probably using variants of the same password on all your sites, which is hardly secure. With a password manager, all your passwords are secure and you only need to remember one master password. There are several available &#8212; I came across <a href="http://www.LastPass.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.LastPass.com</a> on Charles Kirk&#8217;s blog, of all places, and it works fine.</p>
<p>Absolutely great blog, BR, and many thanks for the amazing amount of work you put into it. But where&#8217;s the pooch?</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Ritholtz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Ritholtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the election, we will return to all economics/markets all the time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the election, we will return to all economics/markets all the time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/has-the-market-fully-discounted-the-bush-presidency/comment-page-1/#comment-124467</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shiller is on CNBC...even he is conflicted...S&amp;P publishes his index so he won&#039;t trash them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shiller is on CNBC&#8230;even he is conflicted&#8230;S&amp;P publishes his index so he won&#8217;t trash them</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/has-the-market-fully-discounted-the-bush-presidency/comment-page-1/#comment-124466</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fun time is over bulls...Market has had a bounce on lower and lower volume...now when Obama gets elected tonight, Bush trashes the place on the way out and Obama welcomes it...he wants things to suck for 2 years so he can blame Bush then turn it around. Bush want things to tank to be able to stick it to Obama and blame him getting elected for ruining his bailouts. Both sides want a market drop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun time is over bulls&#8230;Market has had a bounce on lower and lower volume&#8230;now when Obama gets elected tonight, Bush trashes the place on the way out and Obama welcomes it&#8230;he wants things to suck for 2 years so he can blame Bush then turn it around. Bush want things to tank to be able to stick it to Obama and blame him getting elected for ruining his bailouts. Both sides want a market drop.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Kenneth Noisewater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharky: I would also recommend the accompanying books..  The hard part with JB is actually being able to STOP following threads and getting useful things done, what with Wikipedia basically providing a &#039;self-directed&#039; _Connections_..  Gotta wonder if anyone&#039;s doing anything interesting analyzing Wikipedia relationships and coming up with AI-ish historical analysis..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharky: I would also recommend the accompanying books..  The hard part with JB is actually being able to STOP following threads and getting useful things done, what with Wikipedia basically providing a &#8217;self-directed&#8217; _Connections_..  Gotta wonder if anyone&#8217;s doing anything interesting analyzing Wikipedia relationships and coming up with AI-ish historical analysis..</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/has-the-market-fully-discounted-the-bush-presidency/comment-page-1/#comment-124457</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the market has not fully discounted GWB presidency. There are another 77 (26+31+20) days to go and the outgoing gov can screw up things much worse than what they have done so far. The trend line for SP500 has already seen the breakout from where I would put the line, into the bubble territory. 1025 is the max for this week (especially closing number on Friday). If I see it beyond that number, I would be concerned. The higher we go the harder we fall!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the market has not fully discounted GWB presidency. There are another 77 (26+31+20) days to go and the outgoing gov can screw up things much worse than what they have done so far. The trend line for SP500 has already seen the breakout from where I would put the line, into the bubble territory. 1025 is the max for this week (especially closing number on Friday). If I see it beyond that number, I would be concerned. The higher we go the harder we fall!</p>
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		<title>By: Whammer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/has-the-market-fully-discounted-the-bush-presidency/comment-page-1/#comment-124456</link>
		<dc:creator>Whammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are a couple of things going on here:

1.  Barry is yanking the chain of the Bush dead-enders who want to say that the market goes down whenever it looks like a Democrat is doing well.

2.  Nevertheless, you can&#039;t look at the performance of the markets during the Bush presidency and think that things have gone well.  That is a longer term view than the day-to-day stuff that you&#039;ll hear from Limbaugh, Luskin, et al.

Bruce N Tennessee -- one disagreement/clarification.  Carter is the one who appointed Volcker.  Volcker&#039;s actions were not good for Carter&#039;s re-election, but certainly were good in the long run.

As far as the comments issue -- BR, I&#039;m not sure if this is by design or what, but my &quot;regular&quot; Wordpress login doesn&#039;t work here.  I need to log in with a specific Big Picture identity and password.  That tends to make things a bit clumsy......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are a couple of things going on here:</p>
<p>1.  Barry is yanking the chain of the Bush dead-enders who want to say that the market goes down whenever it looks like a Democrat is doing well.</p>
<p>2.  Nevertheless, you can&#8217;t look at the performance of the markets during the Bush presidency and think that things have gone well.  That is a longer term view than the day-to-day stuff that you&#8217;ll hear from Limbaugh, Luskin, et al.</p>
<p>Bruce N Tennessee &#8212; one disagreement/clarification.  Carter is the one who appointed Volcker.  Volcker&#8217;s actions were not good for Carter&#8217;s re-election, but certainly were good in the long run.</p>
<p>As far as the comments issue &#8212; BR, I&#8217;m not sure if this is by design or what, but my &#8220;regular&#8221; Wordpress login doesn&#8217;t work here.  I need to log in with a specific Big Picture identity and password.  That tends to make things a bit clumsy&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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