Genius money managers at work again. I ride the train with these guys pretty often and of course they are all geniuses from Ivy League schools with MBAs. They all have first names that sound like other people’s last names, live in big houses and wear fancy watches – but most of them are down about 40-50% on the year.
They were buying up Treasuries this week as well. The usual pattern is that they sit in cash and Treasuries for too long and watch the market rally, then rush out of bonds causing a panic and run headlong into stocks – just before the bear market turns downwards again…
A lot of people have speculated on the buying of 10-year Treasuries this past week. The best explanation I have found is that this doesn’t truly reflect a belief that inflation will be <3% for 10 years. Much of this week’s move was hedging by holders of mortgages as a way to protect themselves against early repayment risk. This week saw an increase in refi activity as mortgage rates fell. Usually this type of hedging is quite volatile and can revert sharply if mortgage rates rise again and refi action dries up.
PS. But there’s no way, the 10 year’s are pricing in negative inflation. Another discussion and quip from John at Across the Curve:
“I had not checked TIPS yields in awhile. The 10 year TIPS yields 2.57 percent which implies that the market expects a negative inflation rate of 0.38 percent on average over the next 10 years. And I want to sell you an interest in the Brooklyn Bridge.”
Consumer Credit outstanding fell $14.8b in Sept seasonally adjusted, almost $5b more than expected and marks the 11th month in the past 12 of declines. At $2.456T outstanding, it is 4.9% below the record high in July '08. After a flat reading in Aug, (didn't fall b/c of the CARS program), non revolving debt outstanding fell by $4.9B. Revolving (mostly credit cards) balances outstanding fell by $9.9B. To fully put into perspective today's data, look at the current level of consumer credit (doesn't include mortgages, the biggest chunk of consumer credit) relative to GDP. As of Q3, it totaled 17.2%...
November 30th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
‘Because the idea that I, myself, am the problem is simply unthinkable.’
November 30th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
He thinks he’s miserable, I’ve got a printer that hates me too!
More Hugh Hendry for anyone interested. (It mentions silver coinage coincident to the Cliff Droke article I posted recently.)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/3525234/Encouraged-by-a-wicked-wizard-Greenspan-Bernanke-toils-at-his-printing-press.html
November 30th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
And for the goldbugs among us, something more upbeat at Cafe Americain:
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/ or
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2008/11/citigroup-memo-points-to-gold-as-safe.html
November 30th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
karen, nice link to the co.uk
Hendry calling out The Wizard of FBM, that’s Classic.
way to go, Hugh~ as you know, the World needs ever more of that Tonic.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1O135-FBM.html
November 30th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Coming up to four trillion in money markets:
“…Money-market mutual-fund assets increased $33.12 billion to $3.71 trillion for the week ended Tuesday…”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122791524952465515.html
November 30th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
“Coming up to four trillion in money markets”
Genius money managers at work again. I ride the train with these guys pretty often and of course they are all geniuses from Ivy League schools with MBAs. They all have first names that sound like other people’s last names, live in big houses and wear fancy watches – but most of them are down about 40-50% on the year.
They were buying up Treasuries this week as well. The usual pattern is that they sit in cash and Treasuries for too long and watch the market rally, then rush out of bonds causing a panic and run headlong into stocks – just before the bear market turns downwards again…
A lot of people have speculated on the buying of 10-year Treasuries this past week. The best explanation I have found is that this doesn’t truly reflect a belief that inflation will be <3% for 10 years. Much of this week’s move was hedging by holders of mortgages as a way to protect themselves against early repayment risk. This week saw an increase in refi activity as mortgage rates fell. Usually this type of hedging is quite volatile and can revert sharply if mortgage rates rise again and refi action dries up.
November 30th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
The 10 year is an anomaly that probably will reverse sharply one day. The FT ran this explanation:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/eb677540-bbe3-11dd-80e9-0000779fd18c.html
November 30th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
PS. But there’s no way, the 10 year’s are pricing in negative inflation. Another discussion and quip from John at Across the Curve:
“I had not checked TIPS yields in awhile. The 10 year TIPS yields 2.57 percent which implies that the market expects a negative inflation rate of 0.38 percent on average over the next 10 years. And I want to sell you an interest in the Brooklyn Bridge.”
http://acrossthecurve.com/?p=2192
December 1st, 2008 at 10:05 am
Is anyone into PST now at these prices? How low (for how long) can it go?