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		<title>By: midi</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/quote-of-the-day-geithners-retirement/comment-page-1/#comment-128962</link>
		<dc:creator>midi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is no one, including the President-elect Obama, 
asking for payback/retribution/comeuppance from those that created this mess?
(Let me have links if there are)
The Federal Govt. should be able to find out who made 
the mortgage, who sold as an investment and who gave it 
a AAA rating. All those houses were part of a two way 
transaction: someone bought, someone sold.

The home buyers were duped and the taxpayers are going 
to be cleaned out by these financial con artists.
If these financial con artists do not pay now, they will 
come back again and again: S&amp;L crisis, Long Term 
Capital, Enron.
No white collar jails for those responsible. They go into the 
general jail population, they are more dangerous than 
drug dealers and thieves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is no one, including the President-elect Obama,<br />
asking for payback/retribution/comeuppance from those that created this mess?<br />
(Let me have links if there are)<br />
The Federal Govt. should be able to find out who made<br />
the mortgage, who sold as an investment and who gave it<br />
a AAA rating. All those houses were part of a two way<br />
transaction: someone bought, someone sold.</p>
<p>The home buyers were duped and the taxpayers are going<br />
to be cleaned out by these financial con artists.<br />
If these financial con artists do not pay now, they will<br />
come back again and again: S&amp;L crisis, Long Term<br />
Capital, Enron.<br />
No white collar jails for those responsible. They go into the<br />
general jail population, they are more dangerous than<br />
drug dealers and thieves.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/quote-of-the-day-geithners-retirement/comment-page-1/#comment-128958</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 04:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob A, 

I speak not for Mr. Whalen, though, the idea that I came away with, was: &quot;More of the Same.&quot;

much like:  Obama and McCain Teams Worked on Appointee List Together 
November 25th, 2008 

Via: Washington Note:

A senior Obama campaign official shared with The Washington Note that in July 2008, the McCain and Obama camps began to work secretly behind the scenes to assemble large rosters of potential personnel for the administration that only one of the candidates would lead.

Lists comprised of Democrats and Republicans were assembled, sorted into areas of policy expertise, so that the roster could be called on after the election by either the Obama or McCain transition teams.

Related posts:

Obama, McCain to Appear at Ground Zero on 9/11
McCain Accused of Accepting Improper Donations from Rothschilds
Ron Paul Warns of Great Shift Toward Global Government Under Obama
Antiwar Groups Fear Barack Obama May Create Hawkish Cabinet
OBAMA CONSIDERING JON CORZINE, ANOTHER FORMER GOLDMAN SACHS CHIEF EXECUTIVE, FOR TREASURY SECRETARY
http://cryptogon.com/?p=5280</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob A, </p>
<p>I speak not for Mr. Whalen, though, the idea that I came away with, was: &#8220;More of the Same.&#8221;</p>
<p>much like:  Obama and McCain Teams Worked on Appointee List Together<br />
November 25th, 2008 </p>
<p>Via: Washington Note:</p>
<p>A senior Obama campaign official shared with The Washington Note that in July 2008, the McCain and Obama camps began to work secretly behind the scenes to assemble large rosters of potential personnel for the administration that only one of the candidates would lead.</p>
<p>Lists comprised of Democrats and Republicans were assembled, sorted into areas of policy expertise, so that the roster could be called on after the election by either the Obama or McCain transition teams.</p>
<p>Related posts:</p>
<p>Obama, McCain to Appear at Ground Zero on 9/11<br />
McCain Accused of Accepting Improper Donations from Rothschilds<br />
Ron Paul Warns of Great Shift Toward Global Government Under Obama<br />
Antiwar Groups Fear Barack Obama May Create Hawkish Cabinet<br />
OBAMA CONSIDERING JON CORZINE, ANOTHER FORMER GOLDMAN SACHS CHIEF EXECUTIVE, FOR TREASURY SECRETARY<br />
<a href="http://cryptogon.com/?p=5280" rel="nofollow">http://cryptogon.com/?p=5280</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob A</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/quote-of-the-day-geithners-retirement/comment-page-1/#comment-128955</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 04:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see any suggestion to an alternative.  Only a bitch.  Shaun Hannity/FoxNews style.

So is he saying he wishes Bush and Paulsen were staying on?

Or is he proposing some alternative. If so what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see any suggestion to an alternative.  Only a bitch.  Shaun Hannity/FoxNews style.</p>
<p>So is he saying he wishes Bush and Paulsen were staying on?</p>
<p>Or is he proposing some alternative. If so what?</p>
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		<title>By: JohnnyVee</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/quote-of-the-day-geithners-retirement/comment-page-1/#comment-128950</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnnyVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 04:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The baby boomers:  In with a boom and out with a ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The baby boomers:  In with a boom and out with a &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/quote-of-the-day-geithners-retirement/comment-page-1/#comment-128936</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What is your problem with experience and competence instead of unqualified frat boys like “heck of job brownie”?
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I fail to see Geithner as being competent. I also don&#039;t subscribe to the belief that this mess started just 8 years ago. I do recall Enron, WorldCom, LTCM, etc., occurring on someone else&#039;s watch, for that matter... I think this credit crisis started 15-30 years ago when debt expansion became culturally accepted in the U.S.

Consider me extremely impressed if this spring Obama takes a hard line stance with the American people, and conveys to them just how many sacrifices we will have to make to &quot;begin&quot; to get our country out of this mess. Somehow, I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll hold my breath, and I&#039;d bet that the U.S. continues down its current path of becoming globally irrelevant. We&#039;ll see...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What is your problem with experience and competence instead of unqualified frat boys like “heck of job brownie”?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
I fail to see Geithner as being competent. I also don&#8217;t subscribe to the belief that this mess started just 8 years ago. I do recall Enron, WorldCom, LTCM, etc., occurring on someone else&#8217;s watch, for that matter&#8230; I think this credit crisis started 15-30 years ago when debt expansion became culturally accepted in the U.S.</p>
<p>Consider me extremely impressed if this spring Obama takes a hard line stance with the American people, and conveys to them just how many sacrifices we will have to make to &#8220;begin&#8221; to get our country out of this mess. Somehow, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll hold my breath, and I&#8217;d bet that the U.S. continues down its current path of becoming globally irrelevant. We&#8217;ll see&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/quote-of-the-day-geithners-retirement/comment-page-1/#comment-128934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>larster, 

with this: &quot;As most of us commenters know, any fool can shoot off his mouth.&quot;--the only issue I&#039;ll take is that it is too broad, in context.

Whalen, for his own account, goes further: “All of these ‘rescues’ are a disaster for the taxpayer, for the financial markets and also for the Federal Reserve System as an organization. Geithner, in our view, deserves retirement, not promotion.”

Having a, clear enough, mind to see the obvious, and, better, the Stick to tell it, is, certainly, no sign of a fool.

Further, his other writings, available here@ TBP, at the minimum, show, agree, or not, that the Man is, again, not a fool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>larster, </p>
<p>with this: &#8220;As most of us commenters know, any fool can shoot off his mouth.&#8221;&#8211;the only issue I&#8217;ll take is that it is too broad, in context.</p>
<p>Whalen, for his own account, goes further: “All of these ‘rescues’ are a disaster for the taxpayer, for the financial markets and also for the Federal Reserve System as an organization. Geithner, in our view, deserves retirement, not promotion.”</p>
<p>Having a, clear enough, mind to see the obvious, and, better, the Stick to tell it, is, certainly, no sign of a fool.</p>
<p>Further, his other writings, available here@ TBP, at the minimum, show, agree, or not, that the Man is, again, not a fool.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How are any of Obama’s current appointees “change”,&quot;

That&#039;s easy. It&#039;s change from the asshats that have brought us to the brink for the last 8 years. What is your problem with experience and competence instead of unqualified frat boys like &quot;heck of job brownie&quot;?

I asked before what makes whalen an expert? Hedge fund, investment analyst? That is quite a bit less credibility than Geithner. Frankly, I never heard of whalen until BR&#039;s two posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How are any of Obama’s current appointees “change”,&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s easy. It&#8217;s change from the asshats that have brought us to the brink for the last 8 years. What is your problem with experience and competence instead of unqualified frat boys like &#8220;heck of job brownie&#8221;?</p>
<p>I asked before what makes whalen an expert? Hedge fund, investment analyst? That is quite a bit less credibility than Geithner. Frankly, I never heard of whalen until BR&#8217;s two posts.</p>
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		<title>By: larster</title>
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		<dc:creator>larster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Tony-

I&#039;m not a Geithner backer or a detractor, but I would not discount the value of having someone &quot;that was in the room&#039; on Obama&#039;s team, at least initially.  There are going to be legions of ass coverers coming out of the current administration, to and maybe the number one being Paulson.  There is value to someone being able to throw the bullshit flag for a penalty in these situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Tony-</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a Geithner backer or a detractor, but I would not discount the value of having someone &#8220;that was in the room&#8217; on Obama&#8217;s team, at least initially.  There are going to be legions of ass coverers coming out of the current administration, to and maybe the number one being Paulson.  There is value to someone being able to throw the bullshit flag for a penalty in these situations.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will be many different personalities working &quot;cohesively together&quot; for the first time as a group, on Obama&#039;s economic team.  This is good because it will provide  him with a diversified range of opinions to consider before making a decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will be many different personalities working &#8220;cohesively together&#8221; for the first time as a group, on Obama&#8217;s economic team.  This is good because it will provide  him with a diversified range of opinions to consider before making a decision.</p>
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		<title>By: BG</title>
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		<dc:creator>BG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, well, well....I hope you all saw CNBC &amp; Mr. CG blink this Evening at 5:25EST on Fast Money. It proves that if CNBC goes too far in communicating &quot;their view&quot; and as a result gets threatened, they will (even if reluctantly so) provide the rest of the story. IMO, that is exactly what happened.

It is obvious to me that advocates of Bob Rubin (possibly Robert Rubin, himself) laid down the gauntlet to CNBC (in terms they clearly understood) for their reporting of Citi&#039;s decision to take on a greater risk profile in past years and Rubin&#039;s input into that decision.

Sunday night, CG painted the story that it was all the making of Bob Rubin. Well, scratch that!  I enjoyed Charlie&#039;s recant very much, not for what he said; but, for what I know took place behind the scenes. It&#039;s about damn time! Like a plain &#039;ole Country TV Viewer, it was just splendid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, well, well&#8230;.I hope you all saw CNBC &amp; Mr. CG blink this Evening at 5:25EST on Fast Money. It proves that if CNBC goes too far in communicating &#8220;their view&#8221; and as a result gets threatened, they will (even if reluctantly so) provide the rest of the story. IMO, that is exactly what happened.</p>
<p>It is obvious to me that advocates of Bob Rubin (possibly Robert Rubin, himself) laid down the gauntlet to CNBC (in terms they clearly understood) for their reporting of Citi&#8217;s decision to take on a greater risk profile in past years and Rubin&#8217;s input into that decision.</p>
<p>Sunday night, CG painted the story that it was all the making of Bob Rubin. Well, scratch that!  I enjoyed Charlie&#8217;s recant very much, not for what he said; but, for what I know took place behind the scenes. It&#8217;s about damn time! Like a plain &#8216;ole Country TV Viewer, it was just splendid!</p>
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