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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/while-greenspan-slept/comment-page-1/#comment-124378</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whammer, 

I&#039;ll try this again, I had another post &#039;awaiting moderation&#039;, but it was &#039;memory holed&#039;--WP must be still working itself in..

Though, with this: &quot;You’re saying they aren’t sticking up for these women because it would threaten their foundations?&quot;, Close, and, more broadly, yes.

More specifically, many of those groups would risk losing their funding, much of which is provided by Foundations, if they started backing the wrong &#039;pony&#039;.

This woman: http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&amp;v%3Asources=webplus&amp;query=camille+paglia is a good contra example of the, above mentioned, Foundation Feminists..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whammer, </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try this again, I had another post &#8216;awaiting moderation&#8217;, but it was &#8216;memory holed&#8217;&#8211;WP must be still working itself in..</p>
<p>Though, with this: &#8220;You’re saying they aren’t sticking up for these women because it would threaten their foundations?&#8221;, Close, and, more broadly, yes.</p>
<p>More specifically, many of those groups would risk losing their funding, much of which is provided by Foundations, if they started backing the wrong &#8216;pony&#8217;.</p>
<p>This woman: <a href="http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&amp;v%3Asources=webplus&amp;query=camille+paglia" rel="nofollow">http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&amp;v%3Asources=webplus&amp;query=camille+paglia</a> is a good contra example of the, above mentioned, Foundation Feminists..</p>
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		<title>By: Whammer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/while-greenspan-slept/comment-page-1/#comment-124343</link>
		<dc:creator>Whammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Learn something here every day.........  Never heard of Brooksley Born before.  Mark E. Hoffer, I might be dense, but I&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re getting at re your Feminista friends and Born, Wolf, Plame, and Sibel Edmonds.  You&#039;re saying they aren&#039;t sticking up for these women because it would threaten their foundations?  

Hmmm........

Meanwhile, when I see that credit default swaps grew by a factor of 100 since 2001, I can only come to the conclusion that it is the CRA&#039;s fault ;-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Learn something here every day&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;  Never heard of Brooksley Born before.  Mark E. Hoffer, I might be dense, but I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re getting at re your Feminista friends and Born, Wolf, Plame, and Sibel Edmonds.  You&#8217;re saying they aren&#8217;t sticking up for these women because it would threaten their foundations?  </p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Meanwhile, when I see that credit default swaps grew by a factor of 100 since 2001, I can only come to the conclusion that it is the CRA&#8217;s fault <img src='http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This subject was discussed previously at length in the New York Times on October 8, &quot;Taking Hard New Look at a Greenspan Legacy&quot; here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/business/economy/09greenspan.html

~~~

&lt;B&gt;BR&lt;/b&gt;:  Discussed in loving detail here:

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/10/deconstructing-greenspan/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This subject was discussed previously at length in the New York Times on October 8, &#8220;Taking Hard New Look at a Greenspan Legacy&#8221; here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/business/economy/09greenspan.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/business/economy/09greenspan.html</a></p>
<p>~~~</p>
<p><b>BR</b>:  Discussed in loving detail here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/10/deconstructing-greenspan/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/10/deconstructing-greenspan/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-bcd

that&#039;s a very good point..it&#039;s something I&#039;ve been asking my &#039;Feminista&#039; &quot;Friends&quot;, towit: where are you in supporting Brooksley Born?  Why are you silent about Naomi Wolf?  Where&#039;s the love for Plame?, et al., etc..

There&#039;s never an answer.  They cannot say: &quot;We&#039;d lose our Foundation Funding if we spoke the Truth, it&#039;s all about &#039;Divide &#039;n Conquer&#039;&quot;..yet, there you have it.

and, don&#039;t even try to ask about Sibel Edmonds..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-bcd</p>
<p>that&#8217;s a very good point..it&#8217;s something I&#8217;ve been asking my &#8216;Feminista&#8217; &#8220;Friends&#8221;, towit: where are you in supporting Brooksley Born?  Why are you silent about Naomi Wolf?  Where&#8217;s the love for Plame?, et al., etc..</p>
<p>There&#8217;s never an answer.  They cannot say: &#8220;We&#8217;d lose our Foundation Funding if we spoke the Truth, it&#8217;s all about &#8216;Divide &#8216;n Conquer&#8217;&#8221;..yet, there you have it.</p>
<p>and, don&#8217;t even try to ask about Sibel Edmonds..</p>
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		<title>By: sellthekids</title>
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		<dc:creator>sellthekids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when you speak of Alan Greenspan, Arthur Levitt and Robert Rubin in regards to the CDS blowup, it is important to mention Brooksley Born.  those three men (as well as others) chose to ignore her insightful questions and her pleas for regulation of the OTC CDS market.  

the rest is history.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/edcut/370925/the_woman_greenspan_rubin_summers_silenced

http://www.dcbar.org/for_lawyers/resources/legends_in_the_law/born.cfm

--bcd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when you speak of Alan Greenspan, Arthur Levitt and Robert Rubin in regards to the CDS blowup, it is important to mention Brooksley Born.  those three men (as well as others) chose to ignore her insightful questions and her pleas for regulation of the OTC CDS market.  </p>
<p>the rest is history.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thenation.com/blogs/edcut/370925/the_woman_greenspan_rubin_summers_silenced" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenation.com/blogs/edcut/370925/the_woman_greenspan_rubin_summers_silenced</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.dcbar.org/for_lawyers/resources/legends_in_the_law/born.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dcbar.org/for_lawyers/resources/legends_in_the_law/born.cfm</a></p>
<p>&#8211;bcd</p>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Venn, 

you state: &quot;But the Lehman disaster never happened. The AIG disaster never happened...&quot;

how do you know that those transactions, the CDSs, were allowed to unwind organically?

though, with this: &quot;a diverse ecology of many small institutions, none of which are too big to fail.&quot;, I agree, but wouldn&#039;t that be contra to the existence of the FedRes, as well?

past that, it is, too easy to overlook this: &quot;Congress is likely to shake up bank and securities regulation, giving the Federal Reserve more power. 

``I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the Fed ends up officially becoming our systemic-risk regulator,&#039;&#039; said Robert Litan, an economist at the Brookings Institution in Washington. &quot;--from the link

and, &quot;Banks have lobbied on the issue since at least the early 1980s, said Timothy Lucas, who was at the FASB for more than two decades starting in 1979. 

``I think we were sold a bill of goods&#039;&#039; by banks on some off-the-books structures, Lucas said. &quot;, ibid.

and, &quot;FASB was ``under intense pressure from industry,&#039;&#039; Alan Blinder, a former Federal Reserve Board vice chairman and now a Princeton University professor, said in an interview. 

``It&#039;s fair to say that the industry and the regulatory community alike failed to look through the off-balance-sheet entities with a skeptical eye and see the extent of what they might be on the hook for in a bad-case scenario,&#039;&#039; Blinder said. 

That view is shared by Susan Bies, a Federal Reserve Board governor from 2001 to 2007. 

``The No. 1 reason we&#039;re in this crisis is the deterioration of underwriting of mortgage loans,&#039;&#039; Bies said. ``What has made it worse is the lack of transparency in disclosures of the exact nature of assets both on and off the books. We need a clearer description of what potential exposures are out there.&#039;&#039; &quot;, ibid.

on the way to: &quot;While Greenspan Slept&quot;, though, I guess we have to remember that: &quot;He did it ALL by himself&quot;, if we are to retain our &#039;Reindeer Games&#039;-access Card..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Venn, </p>
<p>you state: &#8220;But the Lehman disaster never happened. The AIG disaster never happened&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>how do you know that those transactions, the CDSs, were allowed to unwind organically?</p>
<p>though, with this: &#8220;a diverse ecology of many small institutions, none of which are too big to fail.&#8221;, I agree, but wouldn&#8217;t that be contra to the existence of the FedRes, as well?</p>
<p>past that, it is, too easy to overlook this: &#8220;Congress is likely to shake up bank and securities regulation, giving the Federal Reserve more power. </p>
<p>&#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the Fed ends up officially becoming our systemic-risk regulator,&#8221; said Robert Litan, an economist at the Brookings Institution in Washington. &#8220;&#8211;from the link</p>
<p>and, &#8220;Banks have lobbied on the issue since at least the early 1980s, said Timothy Lucas, who was at the FASB for more than two decades starting in 1979. </p>
<p>&#8220;I think we were sold a bill of goods&#8221; by banks on some off-the-books structures, Lucas said. &#8220;, ibid.</p>
<p>and, &#8220;FASB was &#8220;under intense pressure from industry,&#8221; Alan Blinder, a former Federal Reserve Board vice chairman and now a Princeton University professor, said in an interview. </p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s fair to say that the industry and the regulatory community alike failed to look through the off-balance-sheet entities with a skeptical eye and see the extent of what they might be on the hook for in a bad-case scenario,&#8221; Blinder said. </p>
<p>That view is shared by Susan Bies, a Federal Reserve Board governor from 2001 to 2007. </p>
<p>&#8220;The No. 1 reason we&#8217;re in this crisis is the deterioration of underwriting of mortgage loans,&#8221; Bies said. &#8220;What has made it worse is the lack of transparency in disclosures of the exact nature of assets both on and off the books. We need a clearer description of what potential exposures are out there.&#8221; &#8220;, ibid.</p>
<p>on the way to: &#8220;While Greenspan Slept&#8221;, though, I guess we have to remember that: &#8220;He did it ALL by himself&#8221;, if we are to retain our &#8216;Reindeer Games&#8217;-access Card..</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loan Shark:
Of course.  Even if there had been laws on the books, it is doubtful Greenspan or anyone in this current administration would bother enforcing them.  Hell, Bush thinks he runs an imperial presidency.  Call me though when Republicans(and some Democrats) believe in enforcing the laws on the books when it pertains to them and their &quot;friends&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loan Shark:<br />
Of course.  Even if there had been laws on the books, it is doubtful Greenspan or anyone in this current administration would bother enforcing them.  Hell, Bush thinks he runs an imperial presidency.  Call me though when Republicans(and some Democrats) believe in enforcing the laws on the books when it pertains to them and their &#8220;friends&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston Munn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston Munn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would anyone buy homeowner&#039;s insurance or car insurance from an insurance company that had no mandated loss reserves?   

The concept of regulation is not to limit transactions but to create parameters and safegaurds for those who transact - creating an environment of  transparancy that should increase transactions.

The only ones who strenuously argue against having laws are the outlaws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would anyone buy homeowner&#8217;s insurance or car insurance from an insurance company that had no mandated loss reserves?   </p>
<p>The concept of regulation is not to limit transactions but to create parameters and safegaurds for those who transact &#8211; creating an environment of  transparancy that should increase transactions.</p>
<p>The only ones who strenuously argue against having laws are the outlaws.</p>
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		<title>By: loan shark</title>
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		<dc:creator>loan shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible that &#039;regulation&#039;, or the lack thereof, is not the problem but the regulators? Friedman may have been on to something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible that &#8216;regulation&#8217;, or the lack thereof, is not the problem but the regulators? Friedman may have been on to something.</p>
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		<title>By: VennData</title>
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		<dc:creator>VennData</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There hasn&#039;t been a fail on the CDS.  Having them off-exchange hasn&#039;t created a problem.  Now it&#039;s probably a good idea to get them on exchange.  But the Lehman disaster never happened.  The AIG disaster never happened (and they were counter parties to the complex world of CDS hedging where you have to hedge your counter party.)

The problem was the leverage in &quot;too big too fail&quot; institutions.  You can change leverage rules.  The fight of the century would be trying to get rid of institutions that are too big to fail.  But that is really the solution:  a diverse ecology of many small institutions, none of which are too big to fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There hasn&#8217;t been a fail on the CDS.  Having them off-exchange hasn&#8217;t created a problem.  Now it&#8217;s probably a good idea to get them on exchange.  But the Lehman disaster never happened.  The AIG disaster never happened (and they were counter parties to the complex world of CDS hedging where you have to hedge your counter party.)</p>
<p>The problem was the leverage in &#8220;too big too fail&#8221; institutions.  You can change leverage rules.  The fight of the century would be trying to get rid of institutions that are too big to fail.  But that is really the solution:  a diverse ecology of many small institutions, none of which are too big to fail.</p>
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