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		<title>By: MikeDonnelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeDonnelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, god, I&quot;m crying, then laughing, then crying again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, god, I&#8221;m crying, then laughing, then crying again</p>
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		<title>By: Greg0658</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg0658</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jmay - I was LOL too
passed the link on to my Obama blogers - hope you hit the big time with it - JibJab</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jmay &#8211; I was LOL too<br />
passed the link on to my Obama blogers &#8211; hope you hit the big time with it &#8211; JibJab</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
leftback:
&lt;i&gt;The answer, my friend, is that the criminality in this case will be found to stretch back a long way, probably far back before some of the present members of the aforementioned gang joined up.&lt;/i&gt;

Mannwich:
&lt;i&gt;criminality is so deep and basically systemic, which is likely why we haven’t seen any significant perp walks yet.&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So sad, and yet, so true!</description>
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leftback:<br />
<i>The answer, my friend, is that the criminality in this case will be found to stretch back a long way, probably far back before some of the present members of the aforementioned gang joined up.</i></p>
<p>Mannwich:<br />
<i>criminality is so deep and basically systemic, which is likely why we haven’t seen any significant perp walks yet.</i>
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<p>So sad, and yet, so true!</p>
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		<title>By: Juke Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juke Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This free-market hate mongering is getting quite tired Barry.

In a free market, the government would not be doling out billions of dollars to rescue faulty companies. In a free market, the companies that were mismanaged would eventually either go out of business, or be taken over by a competitor who would be able to manage it and flip a profit.

In a system with little relation to a free market, you get government props because the government decides it can best decide who should or shouldn&#039;t go out of business.

AMEX, AIG, GM, and so forth wouldn&#039;t be at the bailout trough in a free market because there wouldn&#039;t be a bailout trough. They are only at the trough because the current economic structure is something akin to a socialistic plutocracy.

Everytime something goes wrong, you blame the free markets. Yet the free markets didn&#039;t get us here - poor central monetary planning and a poor governmental structure allowed for artificially low interest rates, markets for toxic assets, and safety nets to catch the high-risk takers. Free markets, can however, get us out - we just want to do the approach that never works first.

Tell me, what exactly is free-market about these bailouts?
And unregulated? Maybe not as regulated as you want it to be - but unregulated? Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This free-market hate mongering is getting quite tired Barry.</p>
<p>In a free market, the government would not be doling out billions of dollars to rescue faulty companies. In a free market, the companies that were mismanaged would eventually either go out of business, or be taken over by a competitor who would be able to manage it and flip a profit.</p>
<p>In a system with little relation to a free market, you get government props because the government decides it can best decide who should or shouldn&#8217;t go out of business.</p>
<p>AMEX, AIG, GM, and so forth wouldn&#8217;t be at the bailout trough in a free market because there wouldn&#8217;t be a bailout trough. They are only at the trough because the current economic structure is something akin to a socialistic plutocracy.</p>
<p>Everytime something goes wrong, you blame the free markets. Yet the free markets didn&#8217;t get us here &#8211; poor central monetary planning and a poor governmental structure allowed for artificially low interest rates, markets for toxic assets, and safety nets to catch the high-risk takers. Free markets, can however, get us out &#8211; we just want to do the approach that never works first.</p>
<p>Tell me, what exactly is free-market about these bailouts?<br />
And unregulated? Maybe not as regulated as you want it to be &#8211; but unregulated? Please.</p>
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		<title>By: WaltFrench</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaltFrench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This crowd might enjoy a glance at Akerlof &amp; Romer&#039;s 1993 &lt;I&gt;Looting: The Economic Underworld of Bankruptcy for Profit&lt;/I&gt; to understand the awful incentives when the Feds get involved. Akerlof, of course, went on to Nobel fame based on further developing an understanding of &quot;information asymmetry&quot; and other flaws in economic transactions, but this is as plain-English as you&#039;d like.

Since we haven&#039;t changed the structure of our response to financial crises (they reviewed collapses in Chile, US S&amp;L&#039;s, Texas real estate and US junk bonds), the paper could almost be re-titled, &lt;I&gt;How to Profit Handsomely by Driving Your Company into the Ground&lt;/I&gt;.

The outrage against &quot;business&quot; is that it&#039;s awful business. Supposedly we have laws on the books, and an Administration that attempts to minimize moral hazard opportunities, but various firms and their senior management have found a riskless way of breaking social, and explicit contracts. It stinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This crowd might enjoy a glance at Akerlof &amp; Romer&#8217;s 1993 <i>Looting: The Economic Underworld of Bankruptcy for Profit</i> to understand the awful incentives when the Feds get involved. Akerlof, of course, went on to Nobel fame based on further developing an understanding of &#8220;information asymmetry&#8221; and other flaws in economic transactions, but this is as plain-English as you&#8217;d like.</p>
<p>Since we haven&#8217;t changed the structure of our response to financial crises (they reviewed collapses in Chile, US S&amp;L&#8217;s, Texas real estate and US junk bonds), the paper could almost be re-titled, <i>How to Profit Handsomely by Driving Your Company into the Ground</i>.</p>
<p>The outrage against &#8220;business&#8221; is that it&#8217;s awful business. Supposedly we have laws on the books, and an Administration that attempts to minimize moral hazard opportunities, but various firms and their senior management have found a riskless way of breaking social, and explicit contracts. It stinks.</p>
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		<title>By: flipspiceland</title>
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		<dc:creator>flipspiceland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make no mistake.  If nearly anyone could figure out a way to get a life-changing government subsidy just by holding a hand out, I&#039;d have mine out also. 

And the majority are in great shape mortgage wise. It is minority, isn&#039;t it always, that is the cause of this meltdown in making mortgage payment.  A sufficiently large minority granted, but less than 25% of mortgage holders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make no mistake.  If nearly anyone could figure out a way to get a life-changing government subsidy just by holding a hand out, I&#8217;d have mine out also. </p>
<p>And the majority are in great shape mortgage wise. It is minority, isn&#8217;t it always, that is the cause of this meltdown in making mortgage payment.  A sufficiently large minority granted, but less than 25% of mortgage holders.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Kreutzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Kreutzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jmay---Loved your video.Made my day. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jmay&#8212;Loved your video.Made my day. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Archiphage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archiphage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Kenneth Noisewater:

Guess that depends on what you mean by &#039;works&#039;. Suffice to say, I will never buy what you&#039;re selling and probably vice versa. We could surely go on, but this isn&#039;t really the right forum. Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Kenneth Noisewater:</p>
<p>Guess that depends on what you mean by &#8216;works&#8217;. Suffice to say, I will never buy what you&#8217;re selling and probably vice versa. We could surely go on, but this isn&#8217;t really the right forum. Take care.</p>
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		<title>By: blueoysterjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>blueoysterjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile, AIG continues to fund swank junkets / buffets for its executives.

Certainly, $350,000 in and of itself is a small piece of the pie, but I think it is evidence of an attitude that these people getting these bailouts are basically giving the taxpayers the finger. They are saying, &quot;We are going to take this money and continue to bathe ourselves in riches, because we can. Because we are powerful. And because you are suckers.&quot;

And they are right. Their core attitude hasn&#039;t changed and it won&#039;t change until real pain is brought to bear. The real pain can come in many forms, but I think jail time is one of the best. And I don&#039;t mean kiddie kamp jail. I mean jail, jail. I want to see executives giving reach arounds to thug life upstate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, AIG continues to fund swank junkets / buffets for its executives.</p>
<p>Certainly, $350,000 in and of itself is a small piece of the pie, but I think it is evidence of an attitude that these people getting these bailouts are basically giving the taxpayers the finger. They are saying, &#8220;We are going to take this money and continue to bathe ourselves in riches, because we can. Because we are powerful. And because you are suckers.&#8221;</p>
<p>And they are right. Their core attitude hasn&#8217;t changed and it won&#8217;t change until real pain is brought to bear. The real pain can come in many forms, but I think jail time is one of the best. And I don&#8217;t mean kiddie kamp jail. I mean jail, jail. I want to see executives giving reach arounds to thug life upstate.</p>
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		<title>By: Schnormal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schnormal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hank Paulson is the new Jerry Bremer. 

During the summer i was wondering what would be Bush&#039;s final FU to the country, i guess this is it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hank Paulson is the new Jerry Bremer. </p>
<p>During the summer i was wondering what would be Bush&#8217;s final FU to the country, i guess this is it.</p>
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