with this: “who trampled our civil liberties at home”

and your other examples of BDS, spare us..

We, are to Blame, We, allowed this stupid s*it to occur..

Simply, it was our Simple selves, asleep, that forgot–the Price of our Liberty.

If, Bush&co. were clever enough to continue, to be allowed, to drag our Republic through the dirt, he/they should be appreciated for their Intelligence, not Blamed for our Stupidity..

When Mr. Bush officially takes his leave in three weeks (in reality, he checked out long ago), most Americans will be content to sigh good riddance. I disagree. I don’t think he should be allowed to slip quietly out of town. There should be a great hue and cry — a loud, collective angry howl, demonstrations with signs and bullhorns and fiery speeches — over the damage he’s done to this country.

This is the man who gave us the war in Iraq and Guantánamo and torture and rendition; who turned the Clinton economy and the budget surplus into fool’s gold; who dithered while New Orleans drowned; who trampled our civil liberties at home and ruined our reputation abroad; who let Dick Cheney run hog wild and thought Brownie was doing a heckuva job.

The Bush administration specialized in deceit. How else could you get the public (and a feckless Congress) to go along with an invasion of Iraq as an absolutely essential response to the Sept. 11 attacks, when Iraq had had nothing to do with the Sept. 11 attacks?

That said, voting has become an exercise in choosing the lesser of two evils. I consider proponents of big government (socialists, “liberals”, “progressives”), whatever the latest code word, the greater evil. Liberals categorically reject the basic tenets of liberty: personal responsibility, accountability and the right to defend one’s life and property (they reject the whole concept of personal property for that matter). They believe people are inheritly stupid and incapable: unwashed masses who need to be farmed and nutured by the enlightened few.

I’ll never vote for a politician who sees their role as using the apparatus of government and the force of law to redistribute property from one citizen to another.

Not only has Bush been a BIG SPENDER, but he has trashed the US Constitution, destroyed Civil Rights, and invaded a country which had NOTHING to do with 9/11.

Those who would still approve of him would vote for a potato if it had “GOP” stamped on its side. (Similar to those who were ready to vote for Huckabee.)

It is far too simplistic to paint everything black and white. Bush has screwed up in a number of ways and did good in others. Obama will screw up in a number of ways and do good in others. The “Ritholtz” position of being shocked that anybody could support Bush is infantile in the extreme. At the very least, one has to know how they rate performance for each issue and then indicate how they weight the importance of each.

If one does not go through this type of process (as some polls attempt to do) then you can end up on at the non-thinking position that all who support Bush are wrong and those that don’t are right. A good example of non-critical thinking.

And… would we discussing the fact that 72% liberal democrats still loved their beloveth.

We will miss Bush, if flip-flopping Obama is worse… less hope not.

In the U.S. (BR is a good example) we really define liberal and conservative in our minds as donkey and elephant. In reality, there is not much difference between the parties and they both do whatever is necessary to get into office and stay there. For example, look at the swings that Obama and McCain took during the campaign going from left or right to center. Does anybody really believe that they heard their true positions? Does it matter to anybody when they say one thing and do another? It does not seem so.

The electorate is in large part a herd of sheeple and until that changes we are headed down into a deep black hole from which we might not be able to ever climb back out.

Election after election we do our thing and get what we deserve in government. Nothing will change until we do.

In the immortal words of Pogo, “We have met the enemy and he is us.”

Fred says: [lol]
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Conservatives, Barely. Maybe. But I Doubt It.
A Question of Semantics
December 13, 2008

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Put this into the category of things I wish I wrote. The only characteristics left out were a few I’ve written about in the past:

1) Live on borrowed money and stick someone else with the bill

2) Believe what you’re told and never question your leaders or favorite right wing radio or TV host

3) Dream of returning to a time that never was and a place that never existed

4) Believe at the visceral level that it’s ok to be stupid if your ideals are pure (’pure’ at least to you, others might see you are somewhat dangerous). Your superstitious belief in religion will protect you because you’re on the right side of things.

5) Be afraid of anything new or different, especially if it challenges an idea held in your mainstream.

6) Honestly believe it’s ok to lie if it furthers the conservative agenda of the moment.