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		<title>By: mark mchugh</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/fed-fighting-deflation/comment-page-2/#comment-134986</link>
		<dc:creator>mark mchugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 01:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it.

These guys are serious about something, but I don&#039;t see how buying toxic assets, keeping treasury returns ultra-low and making sure banks can&#039;t fail fights deflation.  I mean, I understand that they are trying to reflate the housing bubble, so that banks don&#039;t go bust, but I don&#039;t get the connection to deflation.

All this means to me is the clowns who bought houses they can&#039;t afford will get to keep them a little longer.  I think maybe the Fed&#039;s making these moves under the guise of fighting deflation, but, quite frankly, aside from the drop in gas prices, I don&#039;t see any meaningful evidence of deflation.  Have retirement communities cut their fees?  Is your doctor charging less?  How come milk&#039;s not under $2 a gallon?  Will we all get jobs in the mortgage business to pay for our refinanced houses?  Maybe the Fed can hire us all as regulators.

One thing I understand that Greenie and Ben never will is that it&#039;s a whole lot easier to maintain price stability than to get it back once you&#039;ve lost it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>These guys are serious about something, but I don&#8217;t see how buying toxic assets, keeping treasury returns ultra-low and making sure banks can&#8217;t fail fights deflation.  I mean, I understand that they are trying to reflate the housing bubble, so that banks don&#8217;t go bust, but I don&#8217;t get the connection to deflation.</p>
<p>All this means to me is the clowns who bought houses they can&#8217;t afford will get to keep them a little longer.  I think maybe the Fed&#8217;s making these moves under the guise of fighting deflation, but, quite frankly, aside from the drop in gas prices, I don&#8217;t see any meaningful evidence of deflation.  Have retirement communities cut their fees?  Is your doctor charging less?  How come milk&#8217;s not under $2 a gallon?  Will we all get jobs in the mortgage business to pay for our refinanced houses?  Maybe the Fed can hire us all as regulators.</p>
<p>One thing I understand that Greenie and Ben never will is that it&#8217;s a whole lot easier to maintain price stability than to get it back once you&#8217;ve lost it.</p>
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		<title>By: schoolsout</title>
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		<dc:creator>schoolsout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Per Shapiro.....from Denninger

&quot;Shapiro was tapped by Obama to head the SEC.  Bloomberg hails her as someone who can &quot;overhaul&quot; the SEC.  I see her as &quot;more of the same.&quot;

Why?  Well, let&#039;s just keep it simple - she&#039;s a top brokerage regulator - a former CFTC head and FINRA CEO.  How did Madoff manage to get under her radar, specifically, as CEO of FINRA?

Nor does it stop there.  It appears that Shapiro appointed one of Madoff&#039;s sons to a position that oversaw disciplinary actions made by FINRA!

So there you have it.  The hand-jobs under the table in politics have certainly not changed with the election of a new President.&quot;

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/693-Bawahahahahaha-Change-Where.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Per Shapiro&#8230;..from Denninger</p>
<p>&#8220;Shapiro was tapped by Obama to head the SEC.  Bloomberg hails her as someone who can &#8220;overhaul&#8221; the SEC.  I see her as &#8220;more of the same.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why?  Well, let&#8217;s just keep it simple &#8211; she&#8217;s a top brokerage regulator &#8211; a former CFTC head and FINRA CEO.  How did Madoff manage to get under her radar, specifically, as CEO of FINRA?</p>
<p>Nor does it stop there.  It appears that Shapiro appointed one of Madoff&#8217;s sons to a position that oversaw disciplinary actions made by FINRA!</p>
<p>So there you have it.  The hand-jobs under the table in politics have certainly not changed with the election of a new President.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/693-Bawahahahahaha-Change-Where.html" rel="nofollow">http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/693-Bawahahahahaha-Change-Where.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy Tabbo</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/fed-fighting-deflation/comment-page-2/#comment-134384</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Tabbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DL:  great question on VIX.  I don&#039;t actually trade that or chart it, but i just took a look...there&#039;s nothing bearish about that chart.....37 ish looks like huge support.

in re: oil

used to be a real life physical oil trader...the shitty cracks..the huge contango...nothing looks good...however....i&#039;m now a technical trader and I can see the &#039;light&#039; at the end of the tunnel....

sentiment is hugely negative.  this is the time of the year for oil to rally.  the dollar is going down the toilet.  my bias is to get long summer rbob cracks and then get net long oil into the $35 level....we may see $30 oil, but I think we&#039;re setting up for massive rally in oil very soon.  Tho&#039; I must admit I can see some near term downside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DL:  great question on VIX.  I don&#8217;t actually trade that or chart it, but i just took a look&#8230;there&#8217;s nothing bearish about that chart&#8230;..37 ish looks like huge support.</p>
<p>in re: oil</p>
<p>used to be a real life physical oil trader&#8230;the shitty cracks..the huge contango&#8230;nothing looks good&#8230;however&#8230;.i&#8217;m now a technical trader and I can see the &#8216;light&#8217; at the end of the tunnel&#8230;.</p>
<p>sentiment is hugely negative.  this is the time of the year for oil to rally.  the dollar is going down the toilet.  my bias is to get long summer rbob cracks and then get net long oil into the $35 level&#8230;.we may see $30 oil, but I think we&#8217;re setting up for massive rally in oil very soon.  Tho&#8217; I must admit I can see some near term downside.</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 04:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy Tabbo   @  9:04

As for crude oil, couldn’t the upward sloping forward curve be regarded as a sentiment indicator?       It would seem that the contrary view would be that oil is heading lower.    Certainly, if we get a selloff in the SPX (as I am expecting in January), that is likely to pull oil down.    
   
(But yes, there are some weird interrelationships lately between EUR/USD, oil, and treasuries).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy Tabbo   @  9:04</p>
<p>As for crude oil, couldn’t the upward sloping forward curve be regarded as a sentiment indicator?       It would seem that the contrary view would be that oil is heading lower.    Certainly, if we get a selloff in the SPX (as I am expecting in January), that is likely to pull oil down.    </p>
<p>(But yes, there are some weird interrelationships lately between EUR/USD, oil, and treasuries).</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy Tabbo   @  8:59

Speaking of “rising wedges”, do you have a thought on the chart of the VIX over the last three months?      

It seems to be carving out some sort of a triangle.      The obvious question is, which way will it break?     (I say upward).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy Tabbo   @  8:59</p>
<p>Speaking of “rising wedges”, do you have a thought on the chart of the VIX over the last three months?      </p>
<p>It seems to be carving out some sort of a triangle.      The obvious question is, which way will it break?     (I say upward).</p>
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		<title>By: 10 cc</title>
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		<dc:creator>10 cc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best take on the &quot;deflation fighting&quot;  I came across today was from John Kemp (Reuters)&lt;a href=&quot;http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2008/12/17/50547/the-dollar-is-in-freefall&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;via the FT&lt;/a&gt;.

excerpt ...

&quot;Bizarrely, Bernanke and Co are in fact inviting  [treasury] investors to bet the policy will fail, the economy will remain mired in slump for a long period, deflation will occur and interest rates will remain on the floor, as Japan’s have done since the 1990s.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best take on the &#8220;deflation fighting&#8221;  I came across today was from John Kemp (Reuters)<a href="http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2008/12/17/50547/the-dollar-is-in-freefall" rel="nofollow">via the FT</a>.</p>
<p>excerpt &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Bizarrely, Bernanke and Co are in fact inviting  [treasury] investors to bet the policy will fail, the economy will remain mired in slump for a long period, deflation will occur and interest rates will remain on the floor, as Japan’s have done since the 1990s.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Tabbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Tabbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone catch the action in crude oil lately.  The US dollar is basically collapsing, the stock market has been doing well from the Nov. lows....and the oil market is actually 20% lower in the same time frame.  That is a shockingly bad performance from crude oil.  The front spread hit a HISTORIC contango level today.  I&#039;ve never seen anything like it, ever.

I want to be long energy.  But, like the UGLY stepchild, he&#039;s tough tough to love right now.

- AT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone catch the action in crude oil lately.  The US dollar is basically collapsing, the stock market has been doing well from the Nov. lows&#8230;.and the oil market is actually 20% lower in the same time frame.  That is a shockingly bad performance from crude oil.  The front spread hit a HISTORIC contango level today.  I&#8217;ve never seen anything like it, ever.</p>
<p>I want to be long energy.  But, like the UGLY stepchild, he&#8217;s tough tough to love right now.</p>
<p>- AT</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Tabbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Tabbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The price action on the S&amp;P is starting to get a little worrisome for bulls.  The fact that we couldn&#039;t power through 920 day is a little disturbing.  The whole pattern on the futures and cash is starting to resemble a &quot;rising wedge&quot; type formation.  If we power significantly higher...i.e. break 940...then it negates the rising wedge action...but ladies and gentlemen, please be very concious of that uptrend line on the equity charts.  If that uptrend line breaks, you need to start exiting long positions, post haste.

I still think we have weeks of whipsaw coming before we finish this fourth wave, but given the way this thing is struggling near 920, it&#039;s becoming a little troublesome for the bullish view of seeing 1000.

- AT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The price action on the S&amp;P is starting to get a little worrisome for bulls.  The fact that we couldn&#8217;t power through 920 day is a little disturbing.  The whole pattern on the futures and cash is starting to resemble a &#8220;rising wedge&#8221; type formation.  If we power significantly higher&#8230;i.e. break 940&#8230;then it negates the rising wedge action&#8230;but ladies and gentlemen, please be very concious of that uptrend line on the equity charts.  If that uptrend line breaks, you need to start exiting long positions, post haste.</p>
<p>I still think we have weeks of whipsaw coming before we finish this fourth wave, but given the way this thing is struggling near 920, it&#8217;s becoming a little troublesome for the bullish view of seeing 1000.</p>
<p>- AT</p>
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		<title>By: DP</title>
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		<dc:creator>DP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect you&#039;re right. I bought QID when we failed to break 920 again. If we do break 920 I&#039;ll sell it. I realize it&#039;s odd to peg buying QID to the S&amp;P, but it&#039;s worked 3 times already for quick easy trips from mid 60s to mid 70s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect you&#8217;re right. I bought QID when we failed to break 920 again. If we do break 920 I&#8217;ll sell it. I realize it&#8217;s odd to peg buying QID to the S&amp;P, but it&#8217;s worked 3 times already for quick easy trips from mid 60s to mid 70s.</p>
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		<title>By: jmborchers</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmborchers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asian fabs are shutting down for weeks. This is the first time this has happened that I can remember. Hynix semi says idling and trying to sell the entire idle factory. Now that&#039;s interesting. Say it&#039;s idle and then try to sell it. That ought to get a good price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asian fabs are shutting down for weeks. This is the first time this has happened that I can remember. Hynix semi says idling and trying to sell the entire idle factory. Now that&#8217;s interesting. Say it&#8217;s idle and then try to sell it. That ought to get a good price.</p>
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