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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/joseph-stiglitz-is-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-131671</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Having learned a little more about Nouriel than Stiglitz my respect for Nouriel is enormous but I can understand if he much prefers to keep the establishment at arms length.&lt;/i&gt;

He does have a reputation to maintain after all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Having learned a little more about Nouriel than Stiglitz my respect for Nouriel is enormous but I can understand if he much prefers to keep the establishment at arms length.</i></p>
<p>He does have a reputation to maintain after all</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/joseph-stiglitz-is-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-131444</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having learned a little more about Nouriel than Stiglitz my respect for Nouriel is enormous but I can understand if he much prefers to keep the establishment at arms length.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having learned a little more about Nouriel than Stiglitz my respect for Nouriel is enormous but I can understand if he much prefers to keep the establishment at arms length.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/joseph-stiglitz-is-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-131418</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this, from above: &quot;Stiglitz saw a lot of the problems with Rubin/Summers-nomics and was impolitic enough to say so early and often. Adding to that Stiglitz’s Nobel and then Summer’s implosion at Harvard tells us all we need to know about why Stiglitz is out now that Summers has Obama’s ear.

Stiglitz is now in the position of all those who told us Iraq would be a disaster - on the outside precisely because they were right and vocal about it. Why people like Rubin and Summers continue to be seen as the “grown-ups” who can fix the problem is as paradoxical to me as people like Biden, Clinton, Gates etc, all of whom were catastropically wrong about Iraq, are still seen as the kind of policy experts we need in foreign affairs.&quot;

needs to be studied and understood..

I&#039;d only add that Stiglitz, among very few, was, also, calling out &#039;The WorldBank&#039;..

past that, Namazu, above, is correct.  The idea that Reagan&#039;s admin. put Keynesianism OOB is a complete canard..

Rhetoric aside, his admin., more than anything else, reinvigorated the Keynesian State--people are acting like JMK&#039;s poli-sci-fi Tomes were burned in piles, as if..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this, from above: &#8220;Stiglitz saw a lot of the problems with Rubin/Summers-nomics and was impolitic enough to say so early and often. Adding to that Stiglitz’s Nobel and then Summer’s implosion at Harvard tells us all we need to know about why Stiglitz is out now that Summers has Obama’s ear.</p>
<p>Stiglitz is now in the position of all those who told us Iraq would be a disaster &#8211; on the outside precisely because they were right and vocal about it. Why people like Rubin and Summers continue to be seen as the “grown-ups” who can fix the problem is as paradoxical to me as people like Biden, Clinton, Gates etc, all of whom were catastropically wrong about Iraq, are still seen as the kind of policy experts we need in foreign affairs.&#8221;</p>
<p>needs to be studied and understood..</p>
<p>I&#8217;d only add that Stiglitz, among very few, was, also, calling out &#8216;The WorldBank&#8217;..</p>
<p>past that, Namazu, above, is correct.  The idea that Reagan&#8217;s admin. put Keynesianism OOB is a complete canard..</p>
<p>Rhetoric aside, his admin., more than anything else, reinvigorated the Keynesian State&#8211;people are acting like JMK&#8217;s poli-sci-fi Tomes were burned in piles, as if..</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stiglitz saw a lot of the problems with Rubin/Summers-nomics and was impolitic enough to say so early and often.  Adding to that Stiglitz&#039;s Nobel and then Summer&#039;s implosion at Harvard tells us all we need to know about why Stiglitz is out now that Summers has Obama&#039;s ear.

Stiglitz is now in the position of all those who told us Iraq would be a disaster - on the outside precisely because they were right and vocal about it.  Why people like Rubin and Summers continue to be seen as the &quot;grown-ups&quot; who can fix the problem is as paradoxical to me as people like Biden, Clinton, Gates etc, all of whom were catastropically wrong about Iraq, are still seen as the kind of policy experts we need in foreign affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stiglitz saw a lot of the problems with Rubin/Summers-nomics and was impolitic enough to say so early and often.  Adding to that Stiglitz&#8217;s Nobel and then Summer&#8217;s implosion at Harvard tells us all we need to know about why Stiglitz is out now that Summers has Obama&#8217;s ear.</p>
<p>Stiglitz is now in the position of all those who told us Iraq would be a disaster &#8211; on the outside precisely because they were right and vocal about it.  Why people like Rubin and Summers continue to be seen as the &#8220;grown-ups&#8221; who can fix the problem is as paradoxical to me as people like Biden, Clinton, Gates etc, all of whom were catastropically wrong about Iraq, are still seen as the kind of policy experts we need in foreign affairs.</p>
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		<title>By: leftback</title>
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		<dc:creator>leftback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s OK. It is a good thing to leave some smart people on the outside looking in (in this case, Stiglitz and Roubini) to be able to point out the mistakes that will inevitably be made in the next administration. We need Joe and Nouriel to remain where they are: both are true independent observers, and will carry out the true role of universities and academic economists: to seek out and speak the inconvenient truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s OK. It is a good thing to leave some smart people on the outside looking in (in this case, Stiglitz and Roubini) to be able to point out the mistakes that will inevitably be made in the next administration. We need Joe and Nouriel to remain where they are: both are true independent observers, and will carry out the true role of universities and academic economists: to seek out and speak the inconvenient truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Francois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But it is clear he nurses more than a few bitter feelings about being left out of the circles of power and influence (and this comes from a Nobel laureate!)&quot;

A very convenient interpretation too from Marion Maneker. It gives license to the reader to discard anything Stiglitz wrote that said reader doesn&#039;t like.

But I&#039;ll refrain to push any spurious interpretation of what could have motivate Maneker to start this post the way he/she did. 

Even after reading disparaging and completely unsubstantiated comments  about Paul Krugman character from the same author in a previous entry on this very site. I even asked for some examples; unsurprisingly, my request was ignored.

As for the substance of Prof. Stiglitz, I am in complete agreement with the last part: Paulson is trying to save the banks, not the banking system; it is, alas possible, that Sec. Paulson is confusing both goals, thinking that saving the banks is saving the banking system. If it is the case, it won&#039;t surprise anyone that the &quot;too-big-to-fail&quot; argument resonates deeply with Paulson and Bernanke.

Of course, a logical and tried solution like the Swedes did in 1992 appears unthinkable here, maybe because, it wasn&#039;t created here, so it won&#039;t be considered. I don&#039;t know; I just know that the credit markets are still in deep freeze after committing mountains of T-bills and things could get much worse if ideological blinders are not removed ASAP from those who still hold too much power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But it is clear he nurses more than a few bitter feelings about being left out of the circles of power and influence (and this comes from a Nobel laureate!)&#8221;</p>
<p>A very convenient interpretation too from Marion Maneker. It gives license to the reader to discard anything Stiglitz wrote that said reader doesn&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ll refrain to push any spurious interpretation of what could have motivate Maneker to start this post the way he/she did. </p>
<p>Even after reading disparaging and completely unsubstantiated comments  about Paul Krugman character from the same author in a previous entry on this very site. I even asked for some examples; unsurprisingly, my request was ignored.</p>
<p>As for the substance of Prof. Stiglitz, I am in complete agreement with the last part: Paulson is trying to save the banks, not the banking system; it is, alas possible, that Sec. Paulson is confusing both goals, thinking that saving the banks is saving the banking system. If it is the case, it won&#8217;t surprise anyone that the &#8220;too-big-to-fail&#8221; argument resonates deeply with Paulson and Bernanke.</p>
<p>Of course, a logical and tried solution like the Swedes did in 1992 appears unthinkable here, maybe because, it wasn&#8217;t created here, so it won&#8217;t be considered. I don&#8217;t know; I just know that the credit markets are still in deep freeze after committing mountains of T-bills and things could get much worse if ideological blinders are not removed ASAP from those who still hold too much power.</p>
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		<title>By: KJ Foehr</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJ Foehr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terra Firma.  In my view it had been pushed aside by 28 years of &quot;supply-side&quot; economics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terra Firma.  In my view it had been pushed aside by 28 years of &#8220;supply-side&#8221; economics.</p>
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		<title>By: Francois</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/joseph-stiglitz-is-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-131363</link>
		<dc:creator>Francois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Namazu,
Like...the neocons &quot;free-marketers&quot; were all crypto-Keynesians perhaps?

People just can&#039;t have it both ways: It&#039;s Keynes fault when the Dems try to push socio-econ agenda, and when the Reaganites and the Bushies implement their ideas on the economy it is ALSO Keynes fault...BUT ONLY WHEN THEY FAIL.

Sorry, but we are done and over with this double-talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Namazu,<br />
Like&#8230;the neocons &#8220;free-marketers&#8221; were all crypto-Keynesians perhaps?</p>
<p>People just can&#8217;t have it both ways: It&#8217;s Keynes fault when the Dems try to push socio-econ agenda, and when the Reaganites and the Bushies implement their ideas on the economy it is ALSO Keynes fault&#8230;BUT ONLY WHEN THEY FAIL.</p>
<p>Sorry, but we are done and over with this double-talk.</p>
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		<title>By: Namazu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Namazu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keynesians shunned for 3 decades?  On what planet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keynesians shunned for 3 decades?  On what planet?</p>
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