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		<title>By: Marion Maneker</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/pay-or-play/comment-page-1/#comment-130202</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion Maneker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no reason you should care. The site is constructed so that you need not read anything on this tab. Should you find yourself wandering here, it isn&#039;t hard to skip over a post that you don&#039;t find interesting. But since you&#039;ve already read it, I&#039;m happy to explain my thinking.

You and I are now partial owners of Goldman Sachs and a slew of other banks/financial players. As a taxpayer, I don&#039;t like seeing my money go to bonus someone like Sprayregen. He wanted to work at Goldman for the riches but doesn&#039;t want to contribute through the tough times. As a taxpayer, I say good riddance to him.

As an owner of Goldman, I have to be troubled by the loss of talent. When we talk about the bonus issue, we do so in the abstract. The Times ran this story for the same reason I posted it but they&#039;re constrained by some of the tenets of their trade. They cannot make guesses about Sprayregen&#039;s personal motives.

One of the purposes of an outlet like this is to make explicit what is usually read between the lines. So I wrote the post above hoping to generate some debate about the bonus issue. I would sincerely like my stake in GS to pay off but I resent the callow greed of someone like Sprayregen--hey, maybe he really does miss the practice of law but most likely he just realized Goldmine Sachs may never be that again.

So, do you give a rat&#039;s behind about your investment? Because a version of Sprayregen&#039;s story is playing out a few hundred times over the next few weeks, months and years. And you might want to have thought it through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no reason you should care. The site is constructed so that you need not read anything on this tab. Should you find yourself wandering here, it isn&#8217;t hard to skip over a post that you don&#8217;t find interesting. But since you&#8217;ve already read it, I&#8217;m happy to explain my thinking.</p>
<p>You and I are now partial owners of Goldman Sachs and a slew of other banks/financial players. As a taxpayer, I don&#8217;t like seeing my money go to bonus someone like Sprayregen. He wanted to work at Goldman for the riches but doesn&#8217;t want to contribute through the tough times. As a taxpayer, I say good riddance to him.</p>
<p>As an owner of Goldman, I have to be troubled by the loss of talent. When we talk about the bonus issue, we do so in the abstract. The Times ran this story for the same reason I posted it but they&#8217;re constrained by some of the tenets of their trade. They cannot make guesses about Sprayregen&#8217;s personal motives.</p>
<p>One of the purposes of an outlet like this is to make explicit what is usually read between the lines. So I wrote the post above hoping to generate some debate about the bonus issue. I would sincerely like my stake in GS to pay off but I resent the callow greed of someone like Sprayregen&#8211;hey, maybe he really does miss the practice of law but most likely he just realized Goldmine Sachs may never be that again.</p>
<p>So, do you give a rat&#8217;s behind about your investment? Because a version of Sprayregen&#8217;s story is playing out a few hundred times over the next few weeks, months and years. And you might want to have thought it through.</p>
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		<title>By: alexp</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/pay-or-play/comment-page-1/#comment-130192</link>
		<dc:creator>alexp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Touché, though I still don&#039;t understand why I should give a rat&#039;s behind about Jamie Sprayregen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touché, though I still don&#8217;t understand why I should give a rat&#8217;s behind about Jamie Sprayregen.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion Maneker</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/pay-or-play/comment-page-1/#comment-130133</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion Maneker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;P.S. Is it just me, or did the quality of reader comments actually go down after BR required us to register?&quot;

QED</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;P.S. Is it just me, or did the quality of reader comments actually go down after BR required us to register?&#8221;</p>
<p>QED</p>
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		<title>By: alexp</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/pay-or-play/comment-page-1/#comment-130045</link>
		<dc:creator>alexp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t know why I just spent 2 minutes reading this.

The Big Picture is full of so much more content these days that I have less tolerance for almost-meaningless posts.  And, yes, I know I don&#039;t have to read The Big Picture anymore, but I WANT TO READ IT.  The past couple years have been enjoyable, educational, and profitable.  But lack of editorial restraint  (or focus?) by contributors is killing the goose...

Thanks,
AP

P.S. Is it just me, or did the quality of reader comments actually go down after BR required us to register?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but I don&#8217;t know why I just spent 2 minutes reading this.</p>
<p>The Big Picture is full of so much more content these days that I have less tolerance for almost-meaningless posts.  And, yes, I know I don&#8217;t have to read The Big Picture anymore, but I WANT TO READ IT.  The past couple years have been enjoyable, educational, and profitable.  But lack of editorial restraint  (or focus?) by contributors is killing the goose&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
AP</p>
<p>P.S. Is it just me, or did the quality of reader comments actually go down after BR required us to register?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike in Nola</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/pay-or-play/comment-page-1/#comment-130036</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike in Nola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as you can get those big hourly fees. As a top guy he can get them.  Bankruptcy is one thing; most other areas of practice are going to be in the toilet and we will likely start seeing the shrinking of the silk stocking firms as the contagion spreads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as you can get those big hourly fees. As a top guy he can get them.  Bankruptcy is one thing; most other areas of practice are going to be in the toilet and we will likely start seeing the shrinking of the silk stocking firms as the contagion spreads.</p>
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