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	<title>Comments on: The U.S. Economy W/ Ron Paul Peter Schiff</title>
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		<title>By: brentquinn08</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/ron-paul-peter-schiff/comment-page-1/#comment-135917</link>
		<dc:creator>brentquinn08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can discredit Ron Paul based on the media&#039;s perceptions, his comments on the 9/11 attacks, or his stance on abortion. Truly, though, these &quot;qualifications&quot; have nothing to do with the message he is trying to spread in this video clip.

To question the validity of Ron Paul or Peter Schiff&#039;s  statements regarding the state of our economy, and the path to destruction our government is on takes an act of will. You have to WANT to deny these predictions. If you look at them with an open mind, you will see that they are right on the money, as they have been for the last several years.

Science requires that we look into data with an open mind to what the results will be. If you look at where we are headed without a bias, you will see that all the king&#039;s horses and all the king&#039;s men are pulling our economy into oblivion. Republicans and Democrats alike...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can discredit Ron Paul based on the media&#8217;s perceptions, his comments on the 9/11 attacks, or his stance on abortion. Truly, though, these &#8220;qualifications&#8221; have nothing to do with the message he is trying to spread in this video clip.</p>
<p>To question the validity of Ron Paul or Peter Schiff&#8217;s  statements regarding the state of our economy, and the path to destruction our government is on takes an act of will. You have to WANT to deny these predictions. If you look at them with an open mind, you will see that they are right on the money, as they have been for the last several years.</p>
<p>Science requires that we look into data with an open mind to what the results will be. If you look at where we are headed without a bias, you will see that all the king&#8217;s horses and all the king&#8217;s men are pulling our economy into oblivion. Republicans and Democrats alike&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/ron-paul-peter-schiff/comment-page-1/#comment-135355</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tanman, 

do a web search on : David Walker

along these lines:
David M. Walker, Former Comptroller General

On, March 12, 2008, David M. Walker, resigned as Comptroller General of the United States and head of the GAO and accepted position of President and Chief Executive Officer of the newly established Peter G. Peterson Foundation. 
     Go to the Peter Peterson Foundation site.
http://www.gao.gov/cghome/dwbiog.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tanman, </p>
<p>do a web search on : David Walker</p>
<p>along these lines:<br />
David M. Walker, Former Comptroller General</p>
<p>On, March 12, 2008, David M. Walker, resigned as Comptroller General of the United States and head of the GAO and accepted position of President and Chief Executive Officer of the newly established Peter G. Peterson Foundation.<br />
     Go to the Peter Peterson Foundation site.<br />
<a href="http://www.gao.gov/cghome/dwbiog.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gao.gov/cghome/dwbiog.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: tanman</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/ron-paul-peter-schiff/comment-page-1/#comment-135337</link>
		<dc:creator>tanman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know how they arrive at the $53 trillion deficit number? Thanks,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know how they arrive at the $53 trillion deficit number? Thanks,</p>
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		<title>By: speed greed</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/ron-paul-peter-schiff/comment-page-1/#comment-135296</link>
		<dc:creator>speed greed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and
snakes, an aeroplane and Lenny Bruce is not afraid...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and<br />
snakes, an aeroplane and Lenny Bruce is not afraid&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/ron-paul-peter-schiff/comment-page-1/#comment-135288</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BR,

in his own words:
Restricting Freedoms and Choices

by Ron Paul

As the financial sector continues its tailspin despite efforts to bail out Wall Street, among the few gainers in recent stock trading have been those companies looking for a new “shot in the arm” with government funding from the next administration.

With its strident rhetoric toward reestablishing the so called “pro-choice” agenda, the incoming administration has threatened a whole host of policies that would not only reduce restrictions on abortion, but would actually force people who wish to avoid participating in the procedure to support it.

As a physician who has delivered over 4,000 babies I am very disturbed by the continued efforts of those on the left to establish absolute rights to abortion. However, even more distressing is the notion that taxpayers should be forced to subsidize life-ending procedures such as abortion and embryonic stem cell research.

In addition to the news that those who will benefit from federally-funded stem cell research have seen an uptick in their financial position as a result of the election, comes news from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops that many health care facilities under the auspices of the Roman Catholic Church may be shut down as a result of the so-called “Freedom of Choice Act” for refusal to perform abortions.

Not only does this Act seem to have growing support in Congress, the President-elect and his Administration have indicated support for this legislation. Since many people cast their votes in a way that they believed would help to improve and increase availability of health care, this is an ironic twist.

Of course, the government takeover of health care began a long time ago, but we should be wary of how far that takeover will go if more private providers are forced out of the marketplace. If enacted, The Freedom of Choice Act and the potential for increased federal funding of embryonic stem cell research will go to show that the incoming Congress and Administration are far more dedicated to a government takeover than they are to affordable and available health care. Moreover, these approaches show no real concern at all for the free choices of taxpayers and health care providers who wish to be free from giving assistance to immoral activities.

These facts should also serve to remind social conservatives that they are better to leave the legislative remedies for important social issues at the level where they constitutionally belong, namely at the discretion of state and local officials. The centralization of power that seemed so attractive to many conservatives just a few years ago no longer seems pleasant at all in light of a more liberal-minded majority in both Houses of Congress and the White House.

This should be a good lesson for future conservative majorities, namely that the centralization of power never results in anything more than the most temporary of “gains” for those who are committed to traditional moral principles, and the power one administration consolidates for itself must inevitably be handed over to the next administration, which will use that increased power for its own agenda.
http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-17/abortion-and-the-centralization-of-power/

LSS: his position is in keeping with the 9th &amp; 10th Amendments, it&#039;s for the People, and their States, to decide..
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

you like to speak of nuance, Rep. Paul is, personally, Pro-Life, while being Pro-Choice.

I know, it doesn&#039;t scroll well on HeadlineNews..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BR,</p>
<p>in his own words:<br />
Restricting Freedoms and Choices</p>
<p>by Ron Paul</p>
<p>As the financial sector continues its tailspin despite efforts to bail out Wall Street, among the few gainers in recent stock trading have been those companies looking for a new “shot in the arm” with government funding from the next administration.</p>
<p>With its strident rhetoric toward reestablishing the so called “pro-choice” agenda, the incoming administration has threatened a whole host of policies that would not only reduce restrictions on abortion, but would actually force people who wish to avoid participating in the procedure to support it.</p>
<p>As a physician who has delivered over 4,000 babies I am very disturbed by the continued efforts of those on the left to establish absolute rights to abortion. However, even more distressing is the notion that taxpayers should be forced to subsidize life-ending procedures such as abortion and embryonic stem cell research.</p>
<p>In addition to the news that those who will benefit from federally-funded stem cell research have seen an uptick in their financial position as a result of the election, comes news from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops that many health care facilities under the auspices of the Roman Catholic Church may be shut down as a result of the so-called “Freedom of Choice Act” for refusal to perform abortions.</p>
<p>Not only does this Act seem to have growing support in Congress, the President-elect and his Administration have indicated support for this legislation. Since many people cast their votes in a way that they believed would help to improve and increase availability of health care, this is an ironic twist.</p>
<p>Of course, the government takeover of health care began a long time ago, but we should be wary of how far that takeover will go if more private providers are forced out of the marketplace. If enacted, The Freedom of Choice Act and the potential for increased federal funding of embryonic stem cell research will go to show that the incoming Congress and Administration are far more dedicated to a government takeover than they are to affordable and available health care. Moreover, these approaches show no real concern at all for the free choices of taxpayers and health care providers who wish to be free from giving assistance to immoral activities.</p>
<p>These facts should also serve to remind social conservatives that they are better to leave the legislative remedies for important social issues at the level where they constitutionally belong, namely at the discretion of state and local officials. The centralization of power that seemed so attractive to many conservatives just a few years ago no longer seems pleasant at all in light of a more liberal-minded majority in both Houses of Congress and the White House.</p>
<p>This should be a good lesson for future conservative majorities, namely that the centralization of power never results in anything more than the most temporary of “gains” for those who are committed to traditional moral principles, and the power one administration consolidates for itself must inevitably be handed over to the next administration, which will use that increased power for its own agenda.<br />
<a href="http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-17/abortion-and-the-centralization-of-power/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-11-17/abortion-and-the-centralization-of-power/</a></p>
<p>LSS: his position is in keeping with the 9th &amp; 10th Amendments, it&#8217;s for the People, and their States, to decide..<br />
<a href="http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html</a></p>
<p>you like to speak of nuance, Rep. Paul is, personally, Pro-Life, while being Pro-Choice.</p>
<p>I know, it doesn&#8217;t scroll well on HeadlineNews..</p>
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		<title>By: Myr</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/ron-paul-peter-schiff/comment-page-1/#comment-135227</link>
		<dc:creator>Myr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the main currency of our financial markets is confidence, then we are already broke. Where will be in a year&#039;s time? It seems inevitable that the stock market is going much lower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the main currency of our financial markets is confidence, then we are already broke. Where will be in a year&#8217;s time? It seems inevitable that the stock market is going much lower.</p>
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		<title>By: patient renter</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/ron-paul-peter-schiff/comment-page-1/#comment-135210</link>
		<dc:creator>patient renter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The music is a bit dramatic and heavy, but nobody can doubt they were right - about all of it. They were right, everyone else was wrong, and we all lose.

Barry: I agree with Mike in Nola - The failure of Ron Paul&#039;s bid had nothing to do with the abortion issue. It was mostly to due with the fact that he was the victim of a massive widespread blackout campaign, measured by the Project for Excellence in Journalism. Even in this video you can see some of the ridiculous lengths that the media went through to marginalize him. You cannot win elections in the face of such biased opposition, unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The music is a bit dramatic and heavy, but nobody can doubt they were right &#8211; about all of it. They were right, everyone else was wrong, and we all lose.</p>
<p>Barry: I agree with Mike in Nola &#8211; The failure of Ron Paul&#8217;s bid had nothing to do with the abortion issue. It was mostly to due with the fact that he was the victim of a massive widespread blackout campaign, measured by the Project for Excellence in Journalism. Even in this video you can see some of the ridiculous lengths that the media went through to marginalize him. You cannot win elections in the face of such biased opposition, unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike in Nola</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/ron-paul-peter-schiff/comment-page-1/#comment-135147</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike in Nola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad the video wasn&#039;t limited to Schiff and/or you, Barry.  The messenger distracts from the message in this case.

Ron Paul wasn&#039;t marginalized because of the abortion issue. Even though he was largely correct on most issues, he made the mistake of questioning the &quot;they hate us because we are free&quot; rationale for the &quot;war on terror&quot; and, thus turning off the great mass of Americans who blindly believe whatever is MSM tells them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad the video wasn&#8217;t limited to Schiff and/or you, Barry.  The messenger distracts from the message in this case.</p>
<p>Ron Paul wasn&#8217;t marginalized because of the abortion issue. Even though he was largely correct on most issues, he made the mistake of questioning the &#8220;they hate us because we are free&#8221; rationale for the &#8220;war on terror&#8221; and, thus turning off the great mass of Americans who blindly believe whatever is MSM tells them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/ron-paul-peter-schiff/comment-page-1/#comment-135133</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The look on Adami&#039;s face @ the 7:33 is priceless, here&#039;s thinking it&#039;ll be &#039;the new Black&#039;..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The look on Adami&#8217;s face @ the 7:33 is priceless, here&#8217;s thinking it&#8217;ll be &#8216;the new Black&#8217;..</p>
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		<title>By: mikeinpanglao</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikeinpanglao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great video Barry. The U.S. has been living on borrowed time and money for a long time. I moved to Asia after I retired four years ago and dread that my U.S. dollar pension will implode. IMHO opinion it is just a matter of time. I may not agree with everything Ron Paul believes in but the country and the world would be a hell of a lot  better if he had been president for the last eight years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great video Barry. The U.S. has been living on borrowed time and money for a long time. I moved to Asia after I retired four years ago and dread that my U.S. dollar pension will implode. IMHO opinion it is just a matter of time. I may not agree with everything Ron Paul believes in but the country and the world would be a hell of a lot  better if he had been president for the last eight years.</p>
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