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	<title>Comments on: Paul Volcker / Group of 30 Report on Reform</title>
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		<title>By: constantnormal</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/01/volcker-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-140074</link>
		<dc:creator>constantnormal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is there any emphasis on greater transparency in this report?</description>
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		<title>By: benesposito</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/01/volcker-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-140065</link>
		<dc:creator>benesposito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this makes me very optimistic. If only this Group of Thirty had issued a report on derivatives, and their proper use perhaps none of these current problems would have come to be. I mean assuming of course it became the accepted standard text on the subject and was the basis for their mainstream and wide usage. I mean with the wissdom of their members explaining how systems should work that you would end up with proper oversight and regulation. Perhaps then during the clinton years we wouldn&#039;t have had Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin, and Larry Summers preventing the CFTC from regulating the OTC derivatives market.  Oh wait, they did release the report. Greenspan is a former member, and Summers is a current member.  Well with Rubin and Summers as Obama advisors, hopefully this banking reform report has the same success their derivatives report did. :&#124;

http://www.group30.org/pubs/pub_0901.htm
&quot;The report was commissioned in the 1990s just as the use derivatives grew and began to move into the mainstream of finance, with these new products fundamentally changing financial management by providing new tools to manage risk.  It was based on wide ranging survey of the industry.

At the time many, both inside and outside of the financial industry, were uncomfortable with derivatives activity. They saw it as complex and obscure, potentially subject to abuse that might lead to the failure of individual firms or even to a crisis in the financial system. &quot;

http://seekingalpha.com/article/74435-the-subprime-three-rubin-summers-greenspan
&quot;Greenspan, Summers and Rubin all acted -- or failed to act -- to enable Wall Street&#039;s quest for higher profits via the opaque OTC market structure model and did so at the expense of the public interest.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this makes me very optimistic. If only this Group of Thirty had issued a report on derivatives, and their proper use perhaps none of these current problems would have come to be. I mean assuming of course it became the accepted standard text on the subject and was the basis for their mainstream and wide usage. I mean with the wissdom of their members explaining how systems should work that you would end up with proper oversight and regulation. Perhaps then during the clinton years we wouldn&#8217;t have had Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin, and Larry Summers preventing the CFTC from regulating the OTC derivatives market.  Oh wait, they did release the report. Greenspan is a former member, and Summers is a current member.  Well with Rubin and Summers as Obama advisors, hopefully this banking reform report has the same success their derivatives report did. :|</p>
<p><a href="http://www.group30.org/pubs/pub_0901.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.group30.org/pubs/pub_0901.htm</a><br />
&#8220;The report was commissioned in the 1990s just as the use derivatives grew and began to move into the mainstream of finance, with these new products fundamentally changing financial management by providing new tools to manage risk.  It was based on wide ranging survey of the industry.</p>
<p>At the time many, both inside and outside of the financial industry, were uncomfortable with derivatives activity. They saw it as complex and obscure, potentially subject to abuse that might lead to the failure of individual firms or even to a crisis in the financial system. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://seekingalpha.com/article/74435-the-subprime-three-rubin-summers-greenspan" rel="nofollow">http://seekingalpha.com/article/74435-the-subprime-three-rubin-summers-greenspan</a><br />
&#8220;Greenspan, Summers and Rubin all acted &#8212; or failed to act &#8212; to enable Wall Street&#8217;s quest for higher profits via the opaque OTC market structure model and did so at the expense of the public interest.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom K</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/01/volcker-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-140046</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listening to all the hypocrits run interference for Geithner is sickening. And I love how the NY Times quotes as many Republicans (supporting Geithner) as possible.

The SOB took a dependent-care deductions for his kid&#039;s &quot;sleep-away camps&quot;. You see, paying taxes is a patriotic duty for the rest of us, but apparently not for your new Treasury Secretary. Change we can believe in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listening to all the hypocrits run interference for Geithner is sickening. And I love how the NY Times quotes as many Republicans (supporting Geithner) as possible.</p>
<p>The SOB took a dependent-care deductions for his kid&#8217;s &#8220;sleep-away camps&#8221;. You see, paying taxes is a patriotic duty for the rest of us, but apparently not for your new Treasury Secretary. Change we can believe in.</p>
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		<title>By: scorpio</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/01/volcker-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-140031</link>
		<dc:creator>scorpio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>truly scary that O has not dropped Geithner already (and Axelrod repeating support this weekend). combined w Schapiro at SEC, Gates Clinton et al this does not bode well. Volcker looking more and more like a prop to get O elected as serious stable individual instead of Harvard Law-trained Wall St lackey (the only community getting organized here that i can see is banks investment and commercial and tax-dodgers). Volcker is pre-Greenspan pre-Wall St boom era and that&#039;s just too scary for Summers/Obama to contemplate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>truly scary that O has not dropped Geithner already (and Axelrod repeating support this weekend). combined w Schapiro at SEC, Gates Clinton et al this does not bode well. Volcker looking more and more like a prop to get O elected as serious stable individual instead of Harvard Law-trained Wall St lackey (the only community getting organized here that i can see is banks investment and commercial and tax-dodgers). Volcker is pre-Greenspan pre-Wall St boom era and that&#8217;s just too scary for Summers/Obama to contemplate</p>
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		<title>By: CaptainNed</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/01/volcker-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-140025</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptainNed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consolidating all banking regulation into one Federal regulator is a very bad idea.  Thos would make it far too easy to game the regulator through Congressional influence.  Far better to amend the National Bank Act and Home Owners Loan Act to require Federally-chartered entities to comply with State-level consumer protection law.  States are far more responsive to the regulatory needs of their citizens and in a much better place to decide what works in their particular state.  States were working hard to control the spread of the &quot;liar loan&quot; system through things like rate &amp; fee restrictions and explicit liability running up the securitization chain, among many other ideas, but were put out of action by the Wachovia decision by those Federally-regulated entities who knew that the Fed would never really force them to care about the loans they were making.

To be completely regulated from above will mean nothing but a race to the bottom of a lowest-common-denominator regulatory scheme, with Congress making the final call.

I thought so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consolidating all banking regulation into one Federal regulator is a very bad idea.  Thos would make it far too easy to game the regulator through Congressional influence.  Far better to amend the National Bank Act and Home Owners Loan Act to require Federally-chartered entities to comply with State-level consumer protection law.  States are far more responsive to the regulatory needs of their citizens and in a much better place to decide what works in their particular state.  States were working hard to control the spread of the &#8220;liar loan&#8221; system through things like rate &amp; fee restrictions and explicit liability running up the securitization chain, among many other ideas, but were put out of action by the Wachovia decision by those Federally-regulated entities who knew that the Fed would never really force them to care about the loans they were making.</p>
<p>To be completely regulated from above will mean nothing but a race to the bottom of a lowest-common-denominator regulatory scheme, with Congress making the final call.</p>
<p>I thought so.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom K</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/01/volcker-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-140020</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously if the government is going to guarantee deposits, more/better regulation is necessary. Personally, I&#039;d rather see a system where transparency was mandated and nothing is guaranteed by the government, but hey, in this era of neo-socialism, that&#039;s just a dream.

The problem I have with document and most of the posts I read here is it&#039;s all rearview thinking. It&#039;s also based on a the belief that the economy is a machine, which can be designed, run, and fixed by a politicians, economists, and bureaucrats:
http://tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=011309A

And because of the current focus on rearview thinking, nobody&#039;s asking where the next economic crisis is going to come from e.g. What impact will result from trillions of bailouts, stimulus spending, government &quot;investments&quot;? Will the belief that more government (as a percent of GDP) will result in a higher standard of living?  &quot;Fairness&quot;? And what is fair anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously if the government is going to guarantee deposits, more/better regulation is necessary. Personally, I&#8217;d rather see a system where transparency was mandated and nothing is guaranteed by the government, but hey, in this era of neo-socialism, that&#8217;s just a dream.</p>
<p>The problem I have with document and most of the posts I read here is it&#8217;s all rearview thinking. It&#8217;s also based on a the belief that the economy is a machine, which can be designed, run, and fixed by a politicians, economists, and bureaucrats:<br />
<a href="http://tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=011309A" rel="nofollow">http://tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=011309A</a></p>
<p>And because of the current focus on rearview thinking, nobody&#8217;s asking where the next economic crisis is going to come from e.g. What impact will result from trillions of bailouts, stimulus spending, government &#8220;investments&#8221;? Will the belief that more government (as a percent of GDP) will result in a higher standard of living?  &#8220;Fairness&#8221;? And what is fair anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: dunnage</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/01/volcker-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-140013</link>
		<dc:creator>dunnage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everywhere in the world you find a bunch Supply Siders hoarding the goods.  When you had the Soviet Union the people below these dudes were given communism to live within.  In the U.S. the Supply Side gave the folks a taste of laissez- faire.  China, anybody wonder why the same 200-300 families run the show.  

Essential the people are dependent upon educating the Supply Side.  If the Supply 
Side cannot be convinced that a bigger pie means &quot;a lot more&quot; for them we will be screwed.  You cannot enjoy the manna of Supply Side without drinking the kool aid  --  A lot of them really believe that giving themselves more is for the greater good. If they don&#039;t have $ the problem is systemic.  If you don&#039;t have $ it&#039;s cyclical.  You know like the &quot;natural rate&quot; of employment.   All of it is so reasonable:  Of course if everybody that wants to work has a job we got big problems.  Tough Love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everywhere in the world you find a bunch Supply Siders hoarding the goods.  When you had the Soviet Union the people below these dudes were given communism to live within.  In the U.S. the Supply Side gave the folks a taste of laissez- faire.  China, anybody wonder why the same 200-300 families run the show.  </p>
<p>Essential the people are dependent upon educating the Supply Side.  If the Supply<br />
Side cannot be convinced that a bigger pie means &#8220;a lot more&#8221; for them we will be screwed.  You cannot enjoy the manna of Supply Side without drinking the kool aid  &#8212;  A lot of them really believe that giving themselves more is for the greater good. If they don&#8217;t have $ the problem is systemic.  If you don&#8217;t have $ it&#8217;s cyclical.  You know like the &#8220;natural rate&#8221; of employment.   All of it is so reasonable:  Of course if everybody that wants to work has a job we got big problems.  Tough Love.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce in Tn</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/01/volcker-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-139998</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce in Tn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Scott F:

I, too, have come to the conclusion that this is a depression.  Good luck to us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Scott F:</p>
<p>I, too, have come to the conclusion that this is a depression.  Good luck to us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/01/volcker-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-139995</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Circuit City is liquidating...34,000 unemployed and massive anchor mall vacancies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Circuit City is liquidating&#8230;34,000 unemployed and massive anchor mall vacancies.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/01/volcker-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-139994</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Good News Economist:

You probably are good at marketing...trying to sell ice cream in a blizzard type of stuff. But your economic analysis is quite shallow. Do you really believe Obama&#039;s oratory and a potentially not horrible LEI report are going to cause a bull run?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Good News Economist:</p>
<p>You probably are good at marketing&#8230;trying to sell ice cream in a blizzard type of stuff. But your economic analysis is quite shallow. Do you really believe Obama&#8217;s oratory and a potentially not horrible LEI report are going to cause a bull run?</p>
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