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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/adults-wanted/comment-page-1/#comment-153636</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 07:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theodore, 

are you referring to:
http://qbpartners.com/ ?

b/c these authors are not that firm..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theodore, </p>
<p>are you referring to:<br />
<a href="http://qbpartners.com/" rel="nofollow">http://qbpartners.com/</a> ?</p>
<p>b/c these authors are not that firm..</p>
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		<title>By: Theodore D.</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/adults-wanted/comment-page-1/#comment-153364</link>
		<dc:creator>Theodore D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it, but I did a little research on the QB partners... They seem to be associated with MLM scamsters.  This is the Austrian point of view and I do tend to agree with this but check out these guys website.  Remember &quot;Rich Dad Poor Dad&quot; which has some good themes but in later versions he goes on to teach you how to flip houses - this is what these guys are about.  I wish they were more legit because I agree with them even though in the 20k words they didn&#039;t get into debt enough.

I am sad to see tbp posting Austrian viewpoints from these clowns.  There are much better pieces saying similar things but brevity and clarity, and the author of these pieces aren&#039;t scamsters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it, but I did a little research on the QB partners&#8230; They seem to be associated with MLM scamsters.  This is the Austrian point of view and I do tend to agree with this but check out these guys website.  Remember &#8220;Rich Dad Poor Dad&#8221; which has some good themes but in later versions he goes on to teach you how to flip houses &#8211; this is what these guys are about.  I wish they were more legit because I agree with them even though in the 20k words they didn&#8217;t get into debt enough.</p>
<p>I am sad to see tbp posting Austrian viewpoints from these clowns.  There are much better pieces saying similar things but brevity and clarity, and the author of these pieces aren&#8217;t scamsters.</p>
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		<title>By: Moopheus</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/adults-wanted/comment-page-1/#comment-153021</link>
		<dc:creator>Moopheus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snore. Another rehash of the Great Goldbug Fantasy. I mean, if the Fed and the Treasury wanted to revalue the dollar by creating a condition of dollar scarcity, they could do so now with the tools available to them. They could, for instance, substantially increase the reserve requirements of banks, and strictly enforce it with punitive interest rates. Credit would become scarce and costly, even worse than the Volcker regime. Many trillions of leveraged debt-money would have to be sucked out of the system. It would of course be severely deflationary. Many debtors would go bankrupt and lenders would take losses. Things would be slow (real slow) for a while, but we&#039;d get over it eventually. (Heck, they could make some serious deleveraging happen just by pulling the plug on all the special loan programs.)  The only thing that keeps it from happening is not the mechanism but the political will to control the banks. If there&#039;s no will to control the banks, then it doesn&#039;t matter whether there&#039;s a big pile of metal in a vault somewhere. 

But that&#039;s not the point, is it? The point of the Great Goldbug Fantasy is to engineer a transfer of wealth from cash-holders to goldbugs. You get the debt-deflation either way (if there is no debt-deflation, then all you&#039;ve pulled off is an accounting trick that revalues nothing). But that&#039;s not good enough, is it? Unless you get paid off for what you think the preciousss is &quot;really&quot; worth, you&#039;re going to keep pissing and moaning about &quot;fiat&quot; money (as if there&#039;s some other kind of money with Platonic existence, and not just a social convention).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snore. Another rehash of the Great Goldbug Fantasy. I mean, if the Fed and the Treasury wanted to revalue the dollar by creating a condition of dollar scarcity, they could do so now with the tools available to them. They could, for instance, substantially increase the reserve requirements of banks, and strictly enforce it with punitive interest rates. Credit would become scarce and costly, even worse than the Volcker regime. Many trillions of leveraged debt-money would have to be sucked out of the system. It would of course be severely deflationary. Many debtors would go bankrupt and lenders would take losses. Things would be slow (real slow) for a while, but we&#8217;d get over it eventually. (Heck, they could make some serious deleveraging happen just by pulling the plug on all the special loan programs.)  The only thing that keeps it from happening is not the mechanism but the political will to control the banks. If there&#8217;s no will to control the banks, then it doesn&#8217;t matter whether there&#8217;s a big pile of metal in a vault somewhere. </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not the point, is it? The point of the Great Goldbug Fantasy is to engineer a transfer of wealth from cash-holders to goldbugs. You get the debt-deflation either way (if there is no debt-deflation, then all you&#8217;ve pulled off is an accounting trick that revalues nothing). But that&#8217;s not good enough, is it? Unless you get paid off for what you think the preciousss is &#8220;really&#8221; worth, you&#8217;re going to keep pissing and moaning about &#8220;fiat&#8221; money (as if there&#8217;s some other kind of money with Platonic existence, and not just a social convention).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/adults-wanted/comment-page-1/#comment-152769</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know, it&#039;s funny, all one to see is this: &quot;a private macro-oriented investment fund&quot;, then read: &quot;You may have noticed a disconnection in our writings over the last two years. We anticipated the Fed would inflate beyond all precedent in an attempt to stabilize nominal asset prices and make creditors “whole,” yet we have been unable to hide our outrage as this policy has now begun to accelerate. Our view is this: we intend to knock it out of the park owning investments highly correlated to monetary inflation and we intend to keep expressing this strategy’s cynical rationale loudly and publicly to anyone who will listen in an attempt to expose the fraudulent, unsustainable monetary system from which we intend to profit.&quot;

and, rest assured, that ~90+% of what follows will be &#039;on the Mark&#039;..

IOW, not only does the Truth tell, it is telling, and it tells itself.

or, differently, to borrow a description of a different work: &quot;A beam of enlightened thinking in a sea of delusional complacency&quot;--N. Roubini about &quot;Bailout Nation&quot; by BR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know, it&#8217;s funny, all one to see is this: &#8220;a private macro-oriented investment fund&#8221;, then read: &#8220;You may have noticed a disconnection in our writings over the last two years. We anticipated the Fed would inflate beyond all precedent in an attempt to stabilize nominal asset prices and make creditors “whole,” yet we have been unable to hide our outrage as this policy has now begun to accelerate. Our view is this: we intend to knock it out of the park owning investments highly correlated to monetary inflation and we intend to keep expressing this strategy’s cynical rationale loudly and publicly to anyone who will listen in an attempt to expose the fraudulent, unsustainable monetary system from which we intend to profit.&#8221;</p>
<p>and, rest assured, that ~90+% of what follows will be &#8216;on the Mark&#8217;..</p>
<p>IOW, not only does the Truth tell, it is telling, and it tells itself.</p>
<p>or, differently, to borrow a description of a different work: &#8220;A beam of enlightened thinking in a sea of delusional complacency&#8221;&#8211;N. Roubini about &#8220;Bailout Nation&#8221; by BR.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100% on your prognosis and am positioned accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100% on your prognosis and am positioned accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveNate</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/adults-wanted/comment-page-1/#comment-152616</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveNate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, but I have to ask one question.

&quot;Have you lost your minds!!!  Why in the world would you advocate that the US treasury turn over it&#039;s Gold deposits to the FED?&quot;

 - 5)The Fed would also purchase the “people’s gold” currently held by the Treasury Department at the $3,000/oz clearing auction price (Treasury is carrying gold on its books at $42.22/oz.)

How about this instead, we follow all of your advice down to the copper coated penny (that is probably now worth more than a penny) except that we print our own damn money (interest free) instead of the FED and have the Federal Government via the US Treasury (not some Private Agency) control the Gold Reserves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, but I have to ask one question.</p>
<p>&#8220;Have you lost your minds!!!  Why in the world would you advocate that the US treasury turn over it&#8217;s Gold deposits to the FED?&#8221;</p>
<p> &#8211; 5)The Fed would also purchase the “people’s gold” currently held by the Treasury Department at the $3,000/oz clearing auction price (Treasury is carrying gold on its books at $42.22/oz.)</p>
<p>How about this instead, we follow all of your advice down to the copper coated penny (that is probably now worth more than a penny) except that we print our own damn money (interest free) instead of the FED and have the Federal Government via the US Treasury (not some Private Agency) control the Gold Reserves.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We think the record shows clearly that Wall Street is the means to fund far-reaching domestic and foreign policies, which requires the ability to manipulate incentives that control the masses.&quot;

Of course, now put yourself in the government&#039;s shoes:  If you can convince the masses to work their asses off for worthless monopoly money, why would you want to give them gold instead?

&quot;Lower prices are a boon for workers, clearly enhance their pool of savings and promote further growth in that pool of savings. This pool of savings, in turn, primes the pump for further investment in productive capital. It’s a virtuous cycle when left alone.&quot;

Except that lower prices go hand in hand with deflation.  It&#039;s almost impossible to counter deflation with a gold-based currency, which is why we use fiat currency in the first place.  You seem like you know your econ, so I&#039;m assuming you know why deflation is so bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We think the record shows clearly that Wall Street is the means to fund far-reaching domestic and foreign policies, which requires the ability to manipulate incentives that control the masses.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, now put yourself in the government&#8217;s shoes:  If you can convince the masses to work their asses off for worthless monopoly money, why would you want to give them gold instead?</p>
<p>&#8220;Lower prices are a boon for workers, clearly enhance their pool of savings and promote further growth in that pool of savings. This pool of savings, in turn, primes the pump for further investment in productive capital. It’s a virtuous cycle when left alone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Except that lower prices go hand in hand with deflation.  It&#8217;s almost impossible to counter deflation with a gold-based currency, which is why we use fiat currency in the first place.  You seem like you know your econ, so I&#8217;m assuming you know why deflation is so bad.</p>
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		<title>By: bogwad_seigneur (the smelly one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>bogwad_seigneur (the smelly one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good God!.....policy in a box, just add water, stir and serve.
Sheesh - mere words desert me.
Is this even doable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good God!&#8230;..policy in a box, just add water, stir and serve.<br />
Sheesh &#8211; mere words desert me.<br />
Is this even doable?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/adults-wanted/comment-page-1/#comment-152566</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, now put yourself in the government&#039;s shoes:  If you can convince the masses to work their asses off for worthless monopoly money, why would you want to give them gold instead?

&quot;Lower prices are a boon for workers, clearly enhance their pool of savings and promote further growth in that pool of savings. This pool of savings, in turn, primes the pump for further investment in productive capital. It’s a virtuous cycle when left alone.&quot;

Except that lower prices go hand in hand with deflation.  It&#039;s almost impossible to counter deflation with a gold-based currency, which is why we use fiat currency in the first place.  You seem like you know your econ, so I&#039;m assuming you know why deflation is so bad.

&quot;In effect, the organic price deflation which would accrue to the consumer and frugal saver is stolen from them by the financial system.&quot;

Yes, it is, and for good reason.  If Scrooge McDuck puts all the world&#039;s gold into his vault, and his gold is worth more and more every year due to deflation, what incentive does he have to spend any of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, now put yourself in the government&#8217;s shoes:  If you can convince the masses to work their asses off for worthless monopoly money, why would you want to give them gold instead?</p>
<p>&#8220;Lower prices are a boon for workers, clearly enhance their pool of savings and promote further growth in that pool of savings. This pool of savings, in turn, primes the pump for further investment in productive capital. It’s a virtuous cycle when left alone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Except that lower prices go hand in hand with deflation.  It&#8217;s almost impossible to counter deflation with a gold-based currency, which is why we use fiat currency in the first place.  You seem like you know your econ, so I&#8217;m assuming you know why deflation is so bad.</p>
<p>&#8220;In effect, the organic price deflation which would accrue to the consumer and frugal saver is stolen from them by the financial system.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, it is, and for good reason.  If Scrooge McDuck puts all the world&#8217;s gold into his vault, and his gold is worth more and more every year due to deflation, what incentive does he have to spend any of it?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Chinese worker that helped manufacture Poly Pocket dolls received US dollars in return.&quot;

No, she didn&#039;t.  She got paid in Yuan by the company she works for.

&quot;In other words, the Poly Pocket worker takes his dollar, converts it to Yuan and buys dinner. If the doll cost the American dad what he would have spent on dinner, then it was a fair and equitable trade.&quot;

Yes and no, you&#039;re ignoring purchasing power parity here.  One dollar will buy a decent meal in China, but 1/3 of an &quot;extra value meal&quot; in the USA.  The problem is that partially due to global exchange rate imbalances, the average Chinese hourly wage earner is willing to work for about 40 times less than his American counterpart.  If the American has no comparative advantage over the Chinese, why would anyone ever hire the American?

&quot;Price is meaningless. It is exchange ratios that matter in the real economy. But, therein lies the rub.&quot;

If by exchange ratios you mean PPP, then yes.

&quot;We think the record shows clearly that Wall Street is the means to fund far-reaching domestic and foreign policies, which requires the ability to manipulate incentives that control the masses.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Chinese worker that helped manufacture Poly Pocket dolls received US dollars in return.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, she didn&#8217;t.  She got paid in Yuan by the company she works for.</p>
<p>&#8220;In other words, the Poly Pocket worker takes his dollar, converts it to Yuan and buys dinner. If the doll cost the American dad what he would have spent on dinner, then it was a fair and equitable trade.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes and no, you&#8217;re ignoring purchasing power parity here.  One dollar will buy a decent meal in China, but 1/3 of an &#8220;extra value meal&#8221; in the USA.  The problem is that partially due to global exchange rate imbalances, the average Chinese hourly wage earner is willing to work for about 40 times less than his American counterpart.  If the American has no comparative advantage over the Chinese, why would anyone ever hire the American?</p>
<p>&#8220;Price is meaningless. It is exchange ratios that matter in the real economy. But, therein lies the rub.&#8221;</p>
<p>If by exchange ratios you mean PPP, then yes.</p>
<p>&#8220;We think the record shows clearly that Wall Street is the means to fund far-reaching domestic and foreign policies, which requires the ability to manipulate incentives that control the masses.&#8221;</p>
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