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	<title>Comments on: Citi&#8217;s Upside-Down Family Tree</title>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/citis-upside-down-family-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-157391</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lori, 

keep that coming, these bounds:  &quot;Let’s look more carefully at his three regions.

1.) The sphere of legitimate debate is the one journalists recognize as real, normal, everyday terrain. They think of their work as taking place almost exclusively within this space. (It doesn’t, but they think so.) Hallin: “This is the region of electoral contests and legislative debates, of issues recognized as such by the major established actors of the American political process.”

Here the two-party system reigns, and the news agenda is what the people in power are likely to have on their agenda. Perhaps the purest expression of this sphere is Washington Week on PBS, where journalists discuss what the two-party system defines as “the issues.” Objectivity and balance are “the supreme journalistic virtues” for the panelists on Washington Week because when there is legitimate debate it’s hard to know where the truth lies. There are risks in saying that truth lies with one faction in the debate, as against another— even when it does. He said, she said journalism is like the bad seed of this sphere, but also a logical outcome of it.

2. ) The sphere of consensus is the “motherhood and apple pie” of politics, the things on which everyone is thought to agree...&quot;
 http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2009/01/12/atomization.html 

need to be stretched..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori, </p>
<p>keep that coming, these bounds:  &#8220;Let’s look more carefully at his three regions.</p>
<p>1.) The sphere of legitimate debate is the one journalists recognize as real, normal, everyday terrain. They think of their work as taking place almost exclusively within this space. (It doesn’t, but they think so.) Hallin: “This is the region of electoral contests and legislative debates, of issues recognized as such by the major established actors of the American political process.”</p>
<p>Here the two-party system reigns, and the news agenda is what the people in power are likely to have on their agenda. Perhaps the purest expression of this sphere is Washington Week on PBS, where journalists discuss what the two-party system defines as “the issues.” Objectivity and balance are “the supreme journalistic virtues” for the panelists on Washington Week because when there is legitimate debate it’s hard to know where the truth lies. There are risks in saying that truth lies with one faction in the debate, as against another— even when it does. He said, she said journalism is like the bad seed of this sphere, but also a logical outcome of it.</p>
<p>2. ) The sphere of consensus is the “motherhood and apple pie” of politics, the things on which everyone is thought to agree&#8230;&#8221;<br />
 <a href="http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2009/01/12/atomization.html" rel="nofollow">http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2009/01/12/atomization.html</a> </p>
<p>need to be stretched..</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/citis-upside-down-family-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-157356</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While most trees appear to be reaching for heaven, this one seems to be tunneling it&#039;s way to hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While most trees appear to be reaching for heaven, this one seems to be tunneling it&#8217;s way to hell.</p>
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		<title>By: FromLori</title>
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		<dc:creator>FromLori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have another SHAM I want to bring to your attention. If you haven’t already heard CITI-fraud payed out $10.8 Million to its Chief Executive at a time when they were SUCKING you dry to the tune of $45 Billion!

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/pandit-lewis-diverge-strategy/story.aspx?guid={846BDDFC-37A5-4FD0-8888-D60E52FAED9F}&amp;tool=1&amp;dist=bigcharts&amp;

Either purposely or incompetently The Resident cut a real bad deal for you the taxpayer already on Citi-fraud. Coincidence?

http://mcauleysworld.wordpress.com/2009/03/01/obamas-citi-group-move-crash-burns-obama-pays-premium-for-citi-stock-that-goes-bust/

Look who is movin on up to the Treasury! Coincidence? Citi-fraud top donor to The Resident’s Inaugeration.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123732747181462245.html

US of Citi-fraud, Coincidence??

http://www.americablog.com/2009/02/united-states-of-citibank.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have another SHAM I want to bring to your attention. If you haven’t already heard CITI-fraud payed out $10.8 Million to its Chief Executive at a time when they were SUCKING you dry to the tune of $45 Billion!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/pandit-lewis-diverge-strategy/story.aspx?guid=" rel="nofollow">http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/pandit-lewis-diverge-strategy/story.aspx?guid=</a>{846BDDFC-37A5-4FD0-8888-D60E52FAED9F}&amp;tool=1&amp;dist=bigcharts&amp;</p>
<p>Either purposely or incompetently The Resident cut a real bad deal for you the taxpayer already on Citi-fraud. Coincidence?</p>
<p><a href="http://mcauleysworld.wordpress.com/2009/03/01/obamas-citi-group-move-crash-burns-obama-pays-premium-for-citi-stock-that-goes-bust/" rel="nofollow">http://mcauleysworld.wordpress.com/2009/03/01/obamas-citi-group-move-crash-burns-obama-pays-premium-for-citi-stock-that-goes-bust/</a></p>
<p>Look who is movin on up to the Treasury! Coincidence? Citi-fraud top donor to The Resident’s Inaugeration.</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123732747181462245.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123732747181462245.html</a></p>
<p>US of Citi-fraud, Coincidence??</p>
<p><a href="http://www.americablog.com/2009/02/united-states-of-citibank.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americablog.com/2009/02/united-states-of-citibank.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: MeanReverter</title>
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		<dc:creator>MeanReverter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, but Barry:

https://www.hangingtomato.com/?cid=486431

Upside down tomatoes &quot;without all the work.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, but Barry:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.hangingtomato.com/?cid=486431" rel="nofollow">https://www.hangingtomato.com/?cid=486431</a></p>
<p>Upside down tomatoes &#8220;without all the work.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dan.</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/citis-upside-down-family-tree/comment-page-1/#comment-157138</link>
		<dc:creator>dan.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice funnel shape to the tree.  and the earlier poster was spot on.  all thats missing is the swirling action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice funnel shape to the tree.  and the earlier poster was spot on.  all thats missing is the swirling action.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce in Tn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce in Tn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.mercurynews.com/politics/ci_11996662?nclick_check=1

Voters cool to ballot measures to fix state budget

...No different than the national mood about the spending our government is doing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/politics/ci_11996662?nclick_check=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.mercurynews.com/politics/ci_11996662?nclick_check=1</a></p>
<p>Voters cool to ballot measures to fix state budget</p>
<p>&#8230;No different than the national mood about the spending our government is doing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with this tree is that corporations don&#039;t grow like trees at all, they grow more like the funguses that grow on dead trees.   Think &quot;The Blob&quot; but with more structure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with this tree is that corporations don&#8217;t grow like trees at all, they grow more like the funguses that grow on dead trees.   Think &#8220;The Blob&#8221; but with more structure.</p>
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		<title>By: johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when you see that nasty graph remember this.... price paid above book value goes to the balance sheet as goodwill which to me basically means citi is dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when you see that nasty graph remember this&#8230;. price paid above book value goes to the balance sheet as goodwill which to me basically means citi is dead.</p>
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		<title>By: johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get rid of this iscribe shit.  let us download or fuck signing up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get rid of this iscribe shit.  let us download or fuck signing up.</p>
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		<title>By: bman</title>
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		<dc:creator>bman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the inbred aspect to it, it clearly demonstrates what&#039;s wrong with the picture. Whatever the case there are too many bank branches in my town and too many main offices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the inbred aspect to it, it clearly demonstrates what&#8217;s wrong with the picture. Whatever the case there are too many bank branches in my town and too many main offices.</p>
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