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	<title>Comments on: Did Naked Shorting Do Lehman In?</title>
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		<title>By: a_fool</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/did-naked-shorting-do-lehman-in/comment-page-2/#comment-155230</link>
		<dc:creator>a_fool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly AGG. Furthermore, a lot of the scumbags got new jobs in Barclays Capital (US entity) and Nomura (UK entity) so they can continue finding ways of scamming the innocent tax payer. 

Bring on the short sellers and the naked short sellers again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly AGG. Furthermore, a lot of the scumbags got new jobs in Barclays Capital (US entity) and Nomura (UK entity) so they can continue finding ways of scamming the innocent tax payer. </p>
<p>Bring on the short sellers and the naked short sellers again.</p>
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		<title>By: AGG</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/did-naked-shorting-do-lehman-in/comment-page-2/#comment-155204</link>
		<dc:creator>AGG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS is what did Lehman in:
http://www.alternet.org/workplace/132298/moral_decay_swirls_around_banking_bailout%3A_time_for_a_criminal_investigation/?page=entire</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS is what did Lehman in:<br />
<a href="http://www.alternet.org/workplace/132298/moral_decay_swirls_around_banking_bailout%3A_time_for_a_criminal_investigation/?page=entire" rel="nofollow">http://www.alternet.org/workplace/132298/moral_decay_swirls_around_banking_bailout%3A_time_for_a_criminal_investigation/?page=entire</a></p>
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		<title>By: a_fool</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/did-naked-shorting-do-lehman-in/comment-page-2/#comment-155162</link>
		<dc:creator>a_fool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naked short selling is covered by various SEC regulations which prohibit the practice. Naked short selling can be used to manipulate the price of securities by driving their price down, and its use in this way is illegal.

However, the real crime is Dressed long buying. Dressed long buying is the traders reciprocal of Naked short selling. Market participants who were dressed long buyers were committing the crime of supporting Dick Fuld (suitable first name) and the collective bunch of brash / arrogant tossers at Lehman Bro.

If you were a dressed long buyer you gave Lehman the ammunition to leverage to extortionate levels. You rewarded the criminal activities of the liar loans (fabricated loans to individuals who had zero probability of paying) by supporting a corrupt management. You also funded the evenings out in strip clubs with fat ugly clients (one has to feel sorry for the strippers), fake business trips around the globe and $1,000 bottles of champaign.

For every seller, there is a buyer - including the naked shorts. The only thing that one can conclude is that the buyers were a bunch of fools. The employees of Lehman were paid in stock so they got what they deserved.

Lesson to be learned: Bonuses should be paid in the form of equity which only vests after 10 years.
take note FSA, SEC, regulators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naked short selling is covered by various SEC regulations which prohibit the practice. Naked short selling can be used to manipulate the price of securities by driving their price down, and its use in this way is illegal.</p>
<p>However, the real crime is Dressed long buying. Dressed long buying is the traders reciprocal of Naked short selling. Market participants who were dressed long buyers were committing the crime of supporting Dick Fuld (suitable first name) and the collective bunch of brash / arrogant tossers at Lehman Bro.</p>
<p>If you were a dressed long buyer you gave Lehman the ammunition to leverage to extortionate levels. You rewarded the criminal activities of the liar loans (fabricated loans to individuals who had zero probability of paying) by supporting a corrupt management. You also funded the evenings out in strip clubs with fat ugly clients (one has to feel sorry for the strippers), fake business trips around the globe and $1,000 bottles of champaign.</p>
<p>For every seller, there is a buyer &#8211; including the naked shorts. The only thing that one can conclude is that the buyers were a bunch of fools. The employees of Lehman were paid in stock so they got what they deserved.</p>
<p>Lesson to be learned: Bonuses should be paid in the form of equity which only vests after 10 years.<br />
take note FSA, SEC, regulators.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boo Hoo!!  Naked short selling has been going on in the commodities market forever.  Even though the CFTC has routinely &quot;investigated&quot; this claim.  Sort of the same way the SEC did Madoff.  When it is in the best interest of those with power, money or both, our markets are rigged against us.  Smarten up!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boo Hoo!!  Naked short selling has been going on in the commodities market forever.  Even though the CFTC has routinely &#8220;investigated&#8221; this claim.  Sort of the same way the SEC did Madoff.  When it is in the best interest of those with power, money or both, our markets are rigged against us.  Smarten up!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ottnott, 

franklin is still a student, still learning the ways of being a Master Propagandist..

though, his teachers say he shows promise.

f411, 

here&#039;s a refresher:

SELF-EVIDENT TECHNIQUE

Appeal to Authority. Appeals to authority cite prominent figures to support a position idea, argument, or course of action.

Assertion. Assertions are positive statements presented as fact. They imply that what is stated is self-evident and needs no further proof. Assertions may or may not be true. 

Bandwagon and Inevitable Victory. Bandwagon-and-inevitable-victory appeals attempt to persuade the target audience to take a course of action &quot;everyone else is taking.&quot; &quot;Join the crowd.&quot; This technique reinforces people&#039;s natural desire to be on the winning side. This technique is used to convince the audience that a program is an expression of an irresistible mass movement and that it is in their interest to join. &quot;Inevitable victory&quot; invites those not already on the bandwagon to join those already on the road to certain victory. Those already, or partially, on the bandwagon are reassured that staying aboard is the best course of action.

Obtain Disapproval. This technique is used to get the audience to disapprove an action or idea by suggesting the idea is popular with groups hated, feared, or held in contempt by the target audience. Thus, if a group which supports a policy is led to believe that undesirable, subversive, or contemptible people also support it, the members of the group might decide to change their position.
http://www.constitution.org/col/propaganda_army.htm

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Propaganda_techniques</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ottnott, </p>
<p>franklin is still a student, still learning the ways of being a Master Propagandist..</p>
<p>though, his teachers say he shows promise.</p>
<p>f411, </p>
<p>here&#8217;s a refresher:</p>
<p>SELF-EVIDENT TECHNIQUE</p>
<p>Appeal to Authority. Appeals to authority cite prominent figures to support a position idea, argument, or course of action.</p>
<p>Assertion. Assertions are positive statements presented as fact. They imply that what is stated is self-evident and needs no further proof. Assertions may or may not be true. </p>
<p>Bandwagon and Inevitable Victory. Bandwagon-and-inevitable-victory appeals attempt to persuade the target audience to take a course of action &#8220;everyone else is taking.&#8221; &#8220;Join the crowd.&#8221; This technique reinforces people&#8217;s natural desire to be on the winning side. This technique is used to convince the audience that a program is an expression of an irresistible mass movement and that it is in their interest to join. &#8220;Inevitable victory&#8221; invites those not already on the bandwagon to join those already on the road to certain victory. Those already, or partially, on the bandwagon are reassured that staying aboard is the best course of action.</p>
<p>Obtain Disapproval. This technique is used to get the audience to disapprove an action or idea by suggesting the idea is popular with groups hated, feared, or held in contempt by the target audience. Thus, if a group which supports a policy is led to believe that undesirable, subversive, or contemptible people also support it, the members of the group might decide to change their position.<br />
<a href="http://www.constitution.org/col/propaganda_army.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.constitution.org/col/propaganda_army.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Propaganda_techniques" rel="nofollow">http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Propaganda_techniques</a></p>
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		<title>By: M.G. in Progress</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/did-naked-shorting-do-lehman-in/comment-page-2/#comment-155052</link>
		<dc:creator>M.G. in Progress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No CDS with Lehman? CDS holders may have got an interest in collapsing Lehman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No CDS with Lehman? CDS holders may have got an interest in collapsing Lehman</p>
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		<title>By: ottnott</title>
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		<dc:creator>ottnott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franklin left out some important words. I&#039;ve added them in CAPS:

&quot;I love it…if I sell a bridge I don’t own WITH NO INTENTION OF BUYING IT BACK, I’m a crook.

If I sell stock I don’t own, WITH THE OBLIGATION TO BUY IT BACK, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE STOCK IS OVERVALUED, I’m doing the world a favor!&quot;

Now it reflects reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franklin left out some important words. I&#8217;ve added them in CAPS:</p>
<p>&#8220;I love it…if I sell a bridge I don’t own WITH NO INTENTION OF BUYING IT BACK, I’m a crook.</p>
<p>If I sell stock I don’t own, WITH THE OBLIGATION TO BUY IT BACK, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE STOCK IS OVERVALUED, I’m doing the world a favor!&#8221;</p>
<p>Now it reflects reality.</p>
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		<title>By: leftback</title>
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		<dc:creator>leftback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Pause, or a pullback?&quot;

Or just exhaustion, shock and awe?

I would say pause. SPX 780 is support, SPX 800 serves as resistance for the time being. 
The 50DMA is up there above 820 somewhere, that would be the next level.
A serious pull-back would be into the SPX 750-760 area.

Given the Q1 &quot;performance&quot; issues, this rally may run another 2 weeks. 
Who knows how far this Spring Fling can roll? I am not getting in the way yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pause, or a pullback?&#8221;</p>
<p>Or just exhaustion, shock and awe?</p>
<p>I would say pause. SPX 780 is support, SPX 800 serves as resistance for the time being.<br />
The 50DMA is up there above 820 somewhere, that would be the next level.<br />
A serious pull-back would be into the SPX 750-760 area.</p>
<p>Given the Q1 &#8220;performance&#8221; issues, this rally may run another 2 weeks.<br />
Who knows how far this Spring Fling can roll? I am not getting in the way yet.</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>leftback  @ 11:57

Pause, or a pullback?</description>
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<p>Pause, or a pullback?</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gordon  @ 9:01

“This is the most manipulated market in US history”

I think that Hank Paulson did a better job of manipulating the markets than Geithner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gordon  @ 9:01</p>
<p>“This is the most manipulated market in US history”</p>
<p>I think that Hank Paulson did a better job of manipulating the markets than Geithner.</p>
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