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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/update-santelli-stares-down-playboy/comment-page-2/#comment-150015</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DC, 

that&#039;s good of you.

here, from link above: &quot;For some reason—call it “fear of getting busted”—all sorts of Santelli/Tea Party shills have been coming out of the closet with their shady affiliations. Like Megan McArdle, who has been leading the attempt to discredit our investigation from her blog at the mighty Atlantic Monthly online. Yesterday she threw in this disclaimer at the end of one of her many obsessive blog posts attacking our article:

“Full disclosure: It’s pretty much an open secret in DC, but given the content of the article I’m discussing, I think I ought to mention that I live with Peter Suderman, who once worked for Freedomworks. Other than giving me the name of the right employee to email to make inquiries (no word back yet), I haven’t asked him about his former employer, and he hasn’t told me anything. I debated whether to write about this, but since I’m not actually defending Freedomworks, I think it’s kosher.” 

Right, so even though Megan has about as gigantic a conflict-of-interest as is humanly imaginable–namely, she spoons every night with a guy who was on Freedomworks’ payroll—and even though her article absolutely defends Freedomworks by attempting to discredit Freedomworks’ critics—she nevertheless concludes, against all logic, “I think it’s kosher.” Speaking as two Jews to a McArdle, we want you to know that your conflict-of-interest is about as kosher as a bacon-cheese-and-crab-melt sandwich.&quot;

linking to Megan McArdle is, probably, more questionable than covering/posting Playboy&#039;s &quot;investigative&quot; journalismo..
Playboy dips a toe into investigative journalism
Megan McArdle
The Atlantic, 02 Mar 2009 11:47 am
http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/03/did_playboy_just_disappear_an.php#more

theATLantic would be disgraceful, even as a Georgia Lampoon-zine..

Standards, may we keep them high, even if others&#039; lower..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DC, </p>
<p>that&#8217;s good of you.</p>
<p>here, from link above: &#8220;For some reason—call it “fear of getting busted”—all sorts of Santelli/Tea Party shills have been coming out of the closet with their shady affiliations. Like Megan McArdle, who has been leading the attempt to discredit our investigation from her blog at the mighty Atlantic Monthly online. Yesterday she threw in this disclaimer at the end of one of her many obsessive blog posts attacking our article:</p>
<p>“Full disclosure: It’s pretty much an open secret in DC, but given the content of the article I’m discussing, I think I ought to mention that I live with Peter Suderman, who once worked for Freedomworks. Other than giving me the name of the right employee to email to make inquiries (no word back yet), I haven’t asked him about his former employer, and he hasn’t told me anything. I debated whether to write about this, but since I’m not actually defending Freedomworks, I think it’s kosher.” </p>
<p>Right, so even though Megan has about as gigantic a conflict-of-interest as is humanly imaginable–namely, she spoons every night with a guy who was on Freedomworks’ payroll—and even though her article absolutely defends Freedomworks by attempting to discredit Freedomworks’ critics—she nevertheless concludes, against all logic, “I think it’s kosher.” Speaking as two Jews to a McArdle, we want you to know that your conflict-of-interest is about as kosher as a bacon-cheese-and-crab-melt sandwich.&#8221;</p>
<p>linking to Megan McArdle is, probably, more questionable than covering/posting Playboy&#8217;s &#8220;investigative&#8221; journalismo..<br />
Playboy dips a toe into investigative journalism<br />
Megan McArdle<br />
The Atlantic, 02 Mar 2009 11:47 am<br />
<a href="http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/03/did_playboy_just_disappear_an.php#more" rel="nofollow">http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/03/did_playboy_just_disappear_an.php#more</a></p>
<p>theATLantic would be disgraceful, even as a Georgia Lampoon-zine..</p>
<p>Standards, may we keep them high, even if others&#8217; lower..</p>
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		<title>By: DC</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/update-santelli-stares-down-playboy/comment-page-2/#comment-149989</link>
		<dc:creator>DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tin foil hats? Maybe not so much...perhaps Santelli just got caught in a web he didn&#039;t create, but it&#039;s a web alright.

&quot;So, to sum up the events of the past few days boys ‘n’ girls: We publish an investigation into the fake-grassroots “Tea Party” protest campaign underwritten by rich Republican rightwing interests, exposing Rick Santelli’s role as the launch event MC, and three days later, Santelli is bitchslapped down by his bosses, he’s cancelled from the Daily Show, forced to issue a Bukharin-like confession, FreedomWorks confesses that it was behind it from the start as we wrote, and every media outlet in the country from the New York Times on down is writing up the scandal. &quot;

http://exiledonline.com/cnbc-bitch-slaps-santelli-into-line-freedomworks-admits-it-organized-grassroots-tea-parties-jon-stewart-cancels-santelli-megan-mcardle-queefs-on-our-founding-fathers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tin foil hats? Maybe not so much&#8230;perhaps Santelli just got caught in a web he didn&#8217;t create, but it&#8217;s a web alright.</p>
<p>&#8220;So, to sum up the events of the past few days boys ‘n’ girls: We publish an investigation into the fake-grassroots “Tea Party” protest campaign underwritten by rich Republican rightwing interests, exposing Rick Santelli’s role as the launch event MC, and three days later, Santelli is bitchslapped down by his bosses, he’s cancelled from the Daily Show, forced to issue a Bukharin-like confession, FreedomWorks confesses that it was behind it from the start as we wrote, and every media outlet in the country from the New York Times on down is writing up the scandal. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://exiledonline.com/cnbc-bitch-slaps-santelli-into-line-freedomworks-admits-it-organized-grassroots-tea-parties-jon-stewart-cancels-santelli-megan-mcardle-queefs-on-our-founding-fathers/" rel="nofollow">http://exiledonline.com/cnbc-bitch-slaps-santelli-into-line-freedomworks-admits-it-organized-grassroots-tea-parties-jon-stewart-cancels-santelli-megan-mcardle-queefs-on-our-founding-fathers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: 1001</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/update-santelli-stares-down-playboy/comment-page-2/#comment-149979</link>
		<dc:creator>1001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tin Foil Hat brigade that tried to besmirch Santelli  is a disgrace .

For this blog to pander to the seriously weak reporting at Playboy smacks of some ideological or personal vendetta against Santelli


morons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tin Foil Hat brigade that tried to besmirch Santelli  is a disgrace .</p>
<p>For this blog to pander to the seriously weak reporting at Playboy smacks of some ideological or personal vendetta against Santelli</p>
<p>morons</p>
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		<title>By: Low Budget Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Low Budget Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So let me get this straight...

Santelli asks a bunch of *brokers* if they are happy about paying their taxes, and they all go insane.  (I never suggested raising their taxes, but it sure seems like a good idea now. ) 

With all due respect to TBP, ordinary people who are one payment behind on their houses are not what caused the stock market to collapse.   Santelli is mad because he thinks my bathroom remodeling crashed the stock market?  That is not just wrong economics, it is wrong everything. 

I am mad because Santelli&#039;s friends never mentioned that my life&#039;s savings were invested in derivatives.  My bathroom remodeling was not speculation, I honestly thought I would have a job this year.  AIG junk bonds were speculation.

I say we round up people who are losing their houses, and losing their jobs, and losing their lives savings, and ask them if they are happy about bailing out a bunch of brokers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me get this straight&#8230;</p>
<p>Santelli asks a bunch of *brokers* if they are happy about paying their taxes, and they all go insane.  (I never suggested raising their taxes, but it sure seems like a good idea now. ) </p>
<p>With all due respect to TBP, ordinary people who are one payment behind on their houses are not what caused the stock market to collapse.   Santelli is mad because he thinks my bathroom remodeling crashed the stock market?  That is not just wrong economics, it is wrong everything. </p>
<p>I am mad because Santelli&#8217;s friends never mentioned that my life&#8217;s savings were invested in derivatives.  My bathroom remodeling was not speculation, I honestly thought I would have a job this year.  AIG junk bonds were speculation.</p>
<p>I say we round up people who are losing their houses, and losing their jobs, and losing their lives savings, and ask them if they are happy about bailing out a bunch of brokers.</p>
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		<title>By: bdg123</title>
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		<dc:creator>bdg123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hardly find Santelli&#039;s rant a right wing stance.  I&#039;m not a big fan of journalism from a porn magazine (regardless of the quality of the porn) so I haven&#039;t read the article.  Santelli is expressing the feelings of many hard-working people.  The unfortunate problem is that unregulated capitalism creates an environment where socialism flourishes.  In other words, the ideology of the last 30+ years caused this.  So, we either let the innocent hard-working people hurt by this environment rot and see unemployment shoot to 25% or we attempt to address issues as a society.   An issue which has merits even in the Constitution.  The only question for me is who pays.  Unfortunately, with the great wealth transfer that has taken place, I believe it should be those making $1 million + per year.   The rest should be getting the relief.  To the uber rich who would argue that this is socialism, fine.  You give all of the money back you made off of the backs of other people and we&#039;ll call it even.  Then, let&#039;s go back to the economic policies of forty years ago.  Well, we are going there regardless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hardly find Santelli&#8217;s rant a right wing stance.  I&#8217;m not a big fan of journalism from a porn magazine (regardless of the quality of the porn) so I haven&#8217;t read the article.  Santelli is expressing the feelings of many hard-working people.  The unfortunate problem is that unregulated capitalism creates an environment where socialism flourishes.  In other words, the ideology of the last 30+ years caused this.  So, we either let the innocent hard-working people hurt by this environment rot and see unemployment shoot to 25% or we attempt to address issues as a society.   An issue which has merits even in the Constitution.  The only question for me is who pays.  Unfortunately, with the great wealth transfer that has taken place, I believe it should be those making $1 million + per year.   The rest should be getting the relief.  To the uber rich who would argue that this is socialism, fine.  You give all of the money back you made off of the backs of other people and we&#8217;ll call it even.  Then, let&#8217;s go back to the economic policies of forty years ago.  Well, we are going there regardless.</p>
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		<title>By: Graphite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graphite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My God, those scrappy muckrakers at Playboy have been undone by Koch and his evil GE puppetmasters! Truth is being controlled by the New World Order! Freemasons run the country!

You guys are a riot ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My God, those scrappy muckrakers at Playboy have been undone by Koch and his evil GE puppetmasters! Truth is being controlled by the New World Order! Freemasons run the country!</p>
<p>You guys are a riot &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: TheReformedBroker</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheReformedBroker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agreed with Barry and felt the whole thing was orchestrated...not just the comments by Rick, but the big cheer that went up behind him almost before he finished that &quot;President Obama, are you listening?&quot;  

I&#039;d like to hear from the guys in the pit that morning, that wolfman character or whatever...

story&#039;s probably waning anyway...cause tomorrow we&#039;ll get another smoking crater to discuss

TRB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agreed with Barry and felt the whole thing was orchestrated&#8230;not just the comments by Rick, but the big cheer that went up behind him almost before he finished that &#8220;President Obama, are you listening?&#8221;  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to hear from the guys in the pit that morning, that wolfman character or whatever&#8230;</p>
<p>story&#8217;s probably waning anyway&#8230;cause tomorrow we&#8217;ll get another smoking crater to discuss</p>
<p>TRB</p>
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		<title>By: bman</title>
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		<dc:creator>bman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what&#039;s the story? Playboy is up for sale?   Who is Santeli? does she wear the rabbit ears?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what&#8217;s the story? Playboy is up for sale?   Who is Santeli? does she wear the rabbit ears?</p>
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		<title>By: Maj Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maj Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great rebuttal Mr. Santelli - just proves that Franklin411 doesn&#039;t have the &quot;411.&quot;  

For Marcus - the best part of Obama&#039;s plan - taxing industry on emissions.  What a crack up, because who will pay more for the widget or service... yep, all of us...  

Also - If the top 1% paid 100% of their income to the government - that only constitutes around 1.7 T.  If those over $250,000 paid all of their income to the government - that gets you to 3T...  So, just by those numbers and taking ALL of their income (100% marginal tax rate and no deductions), the math doesn&#039;t add to 3.6T.  That, and everyone with their own business would quit because of no incentive to work anymore...  It is a &quot;can&#039;t get there from here&quot; scenario...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great rebuttal Mr. Santelli &#8211; just proves that Franklin411 doesn&#8217;t have the &#8220;411.&#8221;  </p>
<p>For Marcus &#8211; the best part of Obama&#8217;s plan &#8211; taxing industry on emissions.  What a crack up, because who will pay more for the widget or service&#8230; yep, all of us&#8230;  </p>
<p>Also &#8211; If the top 1% paid 100% of their income to the government &#8211; that only constitutes around 1.7 T.  If those over $250,000 paid all of their income to the government &#8211; that gets you to 3T&#8230;  So, just by those numbers and taking ALL of their income (100% marginal tax rate and no deductions), the math doesn&#8217;t add to 3.6T.  That, and everyone with their own business would quit because of no incentive to work anymore&#8230;  It is a &#8220;can&#8217;t get there from here&#8221; scenario&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf1168</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolf1168</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: sorry i missed another one. Apparently this one has legs.  This article apparently is leaning the other way, as in &quot;they are right, it is a conspiracy.&quot; Also, they do mention affiliations etc.
see: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Tea_Party_protests_sees_as_corporate_0301.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: sorry i missed another one. Apparently this one has legs.  This article apparently is leaning the other way, as in &#8220;they are right, it is a conspiracy.&#8221; Also, they do mention affiliations etc.<br />
see: <a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Tea_Party_protests_sees_as_corporate_0301.html" rel="nofollow">http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Tea_Party_protests_sees_as_corporate_0301.html</a></p>
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