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		<title>By: Avl Dao</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/word-of-the-day-peak-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-153535</link>
		<dc:creator>Avl Dao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ franklin411 March 13th, 2009 at 3:16 pm Says: 
We’ve seen peak debt before, in the plantation days of the American South. Southern slaveowners grew so rich off of exploiting black labor that they gained complete control of the political system, both nationally and on the state level.

Franklin, that&#039;s worth exploring further (and am I surprised no one responded here? No).
Do you have some $$ numbers to quantify that observation?  Admittedly that might be tricky...when I lived in the footprint of Sherman&#039;s Trek thru Georgia a few years ago, I was informed that the South had vast episodes of issuing their own currency back in those days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ franklin411 March 13th, 2009 at 3:16 pm Says:<br />
We’ve seen peak debt before, in the plantation days of the American South. Southern slaveowners grew so rich off of exploiting black labor that they gained complete control of the political system, both nationally and on the state level.</p>
<p>Franklin, that&#8217;s worth exploring further (and am I surprised no one responded here? No).<br />
Do you have some $$ numbers to quantify that observation?  Admittedly that might be tricky&#8230;when I lived in the footprint of Sherman&#8217;s Trek thru Georgia a few years ago, I was informed that the South had vast episodes of issuing their own currency back in those days.</p>
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		<title>By: Avl Dao</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/03/word-of-the-day-peak-debt/comment-page-1/#comment-153534</link>
		<dc:creator>Avl Dao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ JohnnyVee March 13th, 2009 at 5:56 pm Says: 
If the US economy, or for that matter the world economy, cannot spur growth through debt, then what level of economic activity can we (US or world) expect to return to?

Every week deflation re-shapes our options.  If/whenever it returns, inflation, will also shape our options.  My crystal ball cant see beyond either of those horizons.  From how far  it does see , it says that a &#039;Pay As You Go&#039; option works best for household, municipal and state budgets, as well as for vast swaths of the private sector.  So maybe whatever employment growth that can be pulled from pay-as-you-go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ JohnnyVee March 13th, 2009 at 5:56 pm Says:<br />
If the US economy, or for that matter the world economy, cannot spur growth through debt, then what level of economic activity can we (US or world) expect to return to?</p>
<p>Every week deflation re-shapes our options.  If/whenever it returns, inflation, will also shape our options.  My crystal ball cant see beyond either of those horizons.  From how far  it does see , it says that a &#8216;Pay As You Go&#8217; option works best for household, municipal and state budgets, as well as for vast swaths of the private sector.  So maybe whatever employment growth that can be pulled from pay-as-you-go.</p>
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		<title>By: mickslam</title>
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		<dc:creator>mickslam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is like Hyman Minksy never existed.  Am I on the wrong planet?

Plus I am glad that a trillion dollars takes lots of pallets.  There are lots of people in the world.  There are even 300,000,000 people in the U.S. alone.   There should be lots of money in the world for this many people, pallets and pallets of money, plus acres of cars and millions of acres of planted crops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is like Hyman Minksy never existed.  Am I on the wrong planet?</p>
<p>Plus I am glad that a trillion dollars takes lots of pallets.  There are lots of people in the world.  There are even 300,000,000 people in the U.S. alone.   There should be lots of money in the world for this many people, pallets and pallets of money, plus acres of cars and millions of acres of planted crops.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg0658</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg0658</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HtCMSI - that is a great link to the pallets of 100&#039;s that make a trillion ... gotta forward it to my trucker friend

( Tom Cruise in Minority Report is on tv again - saw conclusion last night - seen before too ) wake&#039;g this morning I had a concept I&#039;m gonna pass on here ... I&#039;ve been telling myself the one thing I did right is not create a human child of my own .. it gives me a freedom many of you can&#039;t have .. the birth forces your hand into a slavery IF you hold the primealist view of family ........ that was background

GOP (maybe) view on FDR principles of &quot;care for the weak&quot; ... the concept point being . care&#039;g via social programs relieves the family unit of the glue ... I&#039;m growing old and do not have a support structure .. but also a poor family does not have to raise a healthy unit for its future support structure .. I mean why bother raise&#039;g a good kid for its parents future survival support structure .. let the system do it

it was a mind bending thought .. and I hope I don&#039;t make a mess of things by saying it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HtCMSI &#8211; that is a great link to the pallets of 100&#8242;s that make a trillion &#8230; gotta forward it to my trucker friend</p>
<p>( Tom Cruise in Minority Report is on tv again &#8211; saw conclusion last night &#8211; seen before too ) wake&#8217;g this morning I had a concept I&#8217;m gonna pass on here &#8230; I&#8217;ve been telling myself the one thing I did right is not create a human child of my own .. it gives me a freedom many of you can&#8217;t have .. the birth forces your hand into a slavery IF you hold the primealist view of family &#8230;&#8230;.. that was background</p>
<p>GOP (maybe) view on FDR principles of &#8220;care for the weak&#8221; &#8230; the concept point being . care&#8217;g via social programs relieves the family unit of the glue &#8230; I&#8217;m growing old and do not have a support structure .. but also a poor family does not have to raise a healthy unit for its future support structure .. I mean why bother raise&#8217;g a good kid for its parents future survival support structure .. let the system do it</p>
<p>it was a mind bending thought .. and I hope I don&#8217;t make a mess of things by saying it</p>
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		<title>By: How the Common Man Sees It</title>
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		<dc:creator>How the Common Man Sees It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful about those bumper sticker in Missouri. It could make you a terrorist:

http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful about those bumper sticker in Missouri. It could make you a terrorist:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/" rel="nofollow">http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swampfox, 

I hear your point, I think it&#039;s a good one.  Esp., as HTCMSI illuminates: &quot;Makes me want to get a sticker that says “Hate hate.”  That would be an instant classic.&quot;

Though, note how you get there--&quot;Well, my question is, ...&quot; and Mencken&#039;s point: &quot;..truly civilized man is always skeptical..&quot;

if we see: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tolerant

I think HLM&#039;s point is more along the lines of &quot;not being reactionary&quot;..
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/reactionary

w/that, as I said, above, it was one &quot;for the reflection pool&quot;, and, as we know, what we see, from such, changes with the time of day..

to be sure, though, I like Mencken; I find there&#039;s much to be learned from his Gifts..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swampfox, </p>
<p>I hear your point, I think it&#8217;s a good one.  Esp., as HTCMSI illuminates: &#8220;Makes me want to get a sticker that says “Hate hate.”  That would be an instant classic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Though, note how you get there&#8211;&#8221;Well, my question is, &#8230;&#8221; and Mencken&#8217;s point: &#8220;..truly civilized man is always skeptical..&#8221;</p>
<p>if we see: <a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tolerant" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tolerant</a></p>
<p>I think HLM&#8217;s point is more along the lines of &#8220;not being reactionary&#8221;..<br />
<a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/reactionary" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefreedictionary.com/reactionary</a></p>
<p>w/that, as I said, above, it was one &#8220;for the reflection pool&#8221;, and, as we know, what we see, from such, changes with the time of day..</p>
<p>to be sure, though, I like Mencken; I find there&#8217;s much to be learned from his Gifts..</p>
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		<title>By: How the Common Man Sees It</title>
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		<dc:creator>How the Common Man Sees It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does one TRILLION dollars look like?

jaw dropper

http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does one TRILLION dollars look like?</p>
<p>jaw dropper</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: How the Common Man Sees It</title>
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		<dc:creator>How the Common Man Sees It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Makes me want to get a sticker that says “Hate hate.”&lt;/i&gt;

That would be an instant classic

&lt;i&gt;While I enjoy Mencken’s writings, I can’t quite agree with his statement that, “The truly civilized man is always skeptical and tolerant.”&lt;/i&gt;

As I age I am becoming more accepting of Mencken&#039;s phrase. That is because more and more I am realizing what the true nature of mankind is and that there is little chance of me changing it by either force or worry. I don&#039;t think it is about civilization. I think it is more an acceptance of reality and the dropping of denial. Experience tends to make one practical</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Makes me want to get a sticker that says “Hate hate.”</i></p>
<p>That would be an instant classic</p>
<p><i>While I enjoy Mencken’s writings, I can’t quite agree with his statement that, “The truly civilized man is always skeptical and tolerant.”</i></p>
<p>As I age I am becoming more accepting of Mencken&#8217;s phrase. That is because more and more I am realizing what the true nature of mankind is and that there is little chance of me changing it by either force or worry. I don&#8217;t think it is about civilization. I think it is more an acceptance of reality and the dropping of denial. Experience tends to make one practical</p>
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		<title>By: Swampfox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swampfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hoffer

While I enjoy Mencken&#039;s writings, I can&#039;t quite agree with his statement that, &quot;The truly civilized man is always skeptical and tolerant.&quot;

It seems to me that there are a number of behaviors a civilized man or people simply do not tolerate. His point is too simple. Kind of like those bumper stickers espousing the idea that &quot;Hate is not a family value.&quot; Well, my question is, &quot;Is hating hate a family value?&quot; Makes me want to get a sticker that says &quot;Hate hate.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hoffer</p>
<p>While I enjoy Mencken&#8217;s writings, I can&#8217;t quite agree with his statement that, &#8220;The truly civilized man is always skeptical and tolerant.&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems to me that there are a number of behaviors a civilized man or people simply do not tolerate. His point is too simple. Kind of like those bumper stickers espousing the idea that &#8220;Hate is not a family value.&#8221; Well, my question is, &#8220;Is hating hate a family value?&#8221; Makes me want to get a sticker that says &#8220;Hate hate.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: try2bamused</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 00:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interest on debt compounds, so debt will grow exponentially. 

When  debt becomes asymptotic, it collpases. 

This is where we are now, and this is why the &quot;best&quot; efforts of global policy makers to resolve the crisis have failed and in fact are doomed to fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interest on debt compounds, so debt will grow exponentially. </p>
<p>When  debt becomes asymptotic, it collpases. </p>
<p>This is where we are now, and this is why the &#8220;best&#8221; efforts of global policy makers to resolve the crisis have failed and in fact are doomed to fail.</p>
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