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		<title>By: batmando</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/05/dow-gold-ratio/comment-page-2/#comment-170420</link>
		<dc:creator>batmando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 15:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Cursive Says:
Anyone else having problems with posting comments?

Yes, on the Private Sector Payroll Changes thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Cursive Says:<br />
Anyone else having problems with posting comments?</p>
<p>Yes, on the Private Sector Payroll Changes thread.</p>
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		<title>By: wally</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/05/dow-gold-ratio/comment-page-2/#comment-170352</link>
		<dc:creator>wally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 12:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was 20 years up; if it is 20 years down it will wreck a lot of retirements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was 20 years up; if it is 20 years down it will wreck a lot of retirements.</p>
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		<title>By: danm</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/05/dow-gold-ratio/comment-page-2/#comment-170346</link>
		<dc:creator>danm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 11:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gold?

Anybody else worried that if suddenly there was a total and utter loss of confidence in the currency and gold shot up, that governments would make it illegal to own it?

So unless you are worth millions, I wonder how safe it is to have gold if you end up having to sell it in the black market to get some cash.

Just wondering...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gold?</p>
<p>Anybody else worried that if suddenly there was a total and utter loss of confidence in the currency and gold shot up, that governments would make it illegal to own it?</p>
<p>So unless you are worth millions, I wonder how safe it is to have gold if you end up having to sell it in the black market to get some cash.</p>
<p>Just wondering&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: danm</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/05/dow-gold-ratio/comment-page-2/#comment-170344</link>
		<dc:creator>danm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 11:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curmudgeon:

I agree with your contractual argument but I can&#039;t help but wonder how many of these bonds are in the hands of the investment bankers or venture capitalists who bought them at pennies on the dollar and are hoping to get 30 cents but pleading for as close as possible to 100.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curmudgeon:</p>
<p>I agree with your contractual argument but I can&#8217;t help but wonder how many of these bonds are in the hands of the investment bankers or venture capitalists who bought them at pennies on the dollar and are hoping to get 30 cents but pleading for as close as possible to 100.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Watts</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/05/dow-gold-ratio/comment-page-2/#comment-170335</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 06:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“They’re creations of society, and they’re permitted to hold the rights of individuals because there it serves the greater good for them to do so. For example, it would be impossible for a single individual to finance the entire &lt;i&gt;U.S. tobacco industry and give millions of children lung cancer and emphysema.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

--

I was given little sample boxes of cigarettes by a pretty lady when I was 13 years old at the gate of the Springfield, Mass. Exposition. She worked for R.J. Reynolds and was there to give out free boxes of cigarettes to kids.  This was in 1978. This is how I got addicted to smoking cigarettes for the next 30 years and have now royally destroyed my lungs and my voice and my body. 

Go corporations.

Always for the greater good.

Word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“They’re creations of society, and they’re permitted to hold the rights of individuals because there it serves the greater good for them to do so. For example, it would be impossible for a single individual to finance the entire <i>U.S. tobacco industry and give millions of children lung cancer and emphysema.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>I was given little sample boxes of cigarettes by a pretty lady when I was 13 years old at the gate of the Springfield, Mass. Exposition. She worked for R.J. Reynolds and was there to give out free boxes of cigarettes to kids.  This was in 1978. This is how I got addicted to smoking cigarettes for the next 30 years and have now royally destroyed my lungs and my voice and my body. </p>
<p>Go corporations.</p>
<p>Always for the greater good.</p>
<p>Word.</p>
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		<title>By: Ducky62</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/05/dow-gold-ratio/comment-page-2/#comment-170330</link>
		<dc:creator>Ducky62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 04:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It’s funny how in one breath, people were accusing him of being some sort of radical Marxist who wants to destroy capitalism, while in the other they accused him of being the servant of Wall Street.&lt;/i&gt;

What are they teaching in academic history departments these days? These things can be one and the same.
Pro-business is NOT pro-free market.In free markets businesses fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s funny how in one breath, people were accusing him of being some sort of radical Marxist who wants to destroy capitalism, while in the other they accused him of being the servant of Wall Street.</i></p>
<p>What are they teaching in academic history departments these days? These things can be one and the same.<br />
Pro-business is NOT pro-free market.In free markets businesses fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Aurelius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Aurelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 03:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Got here late.

Corporations: are treated as persons under the law, but there is precious little Constitutional about that. You can&#039;t jail a corporation, nor deprive it of life, or liberty. We have lots of laws (mostly legal precedents, but many statutes) that do not conform to Constitutional restrictions. We&#039;d be smart to start taking back our liberties (conservatives beware — our Constitution is the most liberal of documents). Bottom line: if it doesn&#039;t infringe on your rights, I can do it. That&#039;s liberty.

As for gold, I&#039;ve owned a good bit of it (foreign coin, actually) for about 3.5 years. Glad I bought it, So far, it&#039;s increased and held its gains well. If you don&#039;t believe in it, that&#039;s okay by me — 99% of the world population does (and has since the beginning of human history), and I have no overwhelming need to trade with the 1% that doesn&#039;t. Why is gold valuable? Who cares? Maybe we&#039;re just like Bower birds when it comes to gold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Got here late.</p>
<p>Corporations: are treated as persons under the law, but there is precious little Constitutional about that. You can&#8217;t jail a corporation, nor deprive it of life, or liberty. We have lots of laws (mostly legal precedents, but many statutes) that do not conform to Constitutional restrictions. We&#8217;d be smart to start taking back our liberties (conservatives beware — our Constitution is the most liberal of documents). Bottom line: if it doesn&#8217;t infringe on your rights, I can do it. That&#8217;s liberty.</p>
<p>As for gold, I&#8217;ve owned a good bit of it (foreign coin, actually) for about 3.5 years. Glad I bought it, So far, it&#8217;s increased and held its gains well. If you don&#8217;t believe in it, that&#8217;s okay by me — 99% of the world population does (and has since the beginning of human history), and I have no overwhelming need to trade with the 1% that doesn&#8217;t. Why is gold valuable? Who cares? Maybe we&#8217;re just like Bower birds when it comes to gold.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/05/dow-gold-ratio/comment-page-2/#comment-170324</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 03:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart gets it w/ &quot;gold rises versus financial assets.&quot;

IOW, &quot;Things&quot; v. &quot;Paper&quot;

LSS: too much paper v. too few things, or as the Economic Fractalist would say: the Physical World has reached its Debt-saturation point.

peep would do well to brush-up on their Relative Pricing skillz..

b/c the non-linearity going fwd: is going make things like this: &quot;smooths it out over the previous 10 year average of earnings.&quot; look awkward.

though, P/E 10 would be Great if it visioned the last 5, and the next 5..
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/visioned</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart gets it w/ &#8220;gold rises versus financial assets.&#8221;</p>
<p>IOW, &#8220;Things&#8221; v. &#8220;Paper&#8221;</p>
<p>LSS: too much paper v. too few things, or as the Economic Fractalist would say: the Physical World has reached its Debt-saturation point.</p>
<p>peep would do well to brush-up on their Relative Pricing skillz..</p>
<p>b/c the non-linearity going fwd: is going make things like this: &#8220;smooths it out over the previous 10 year average of earnings.&#8221; look awkward.</p>
<p>though, P/E 10 would be Great if it visioned the last 5, and the next 5..<br />
<a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/visioned" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefreedictionary.com/visioned</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cursive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cursive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 03:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ SB 11:24

Thanks.  I always read your posts with interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ SB 11:24</p>
<p>Thanks.  I always read your posts with interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/05/dow-gold-ratio/comment-page-2/#comment-170322</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 03:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cursive: Using 10 year average earnings probably is a good idea usually. The boys at the Comstock Funds did so recently and came up with an S&amp;P target of 500. In this case though, using 10 year average earnings will include parts of two distinct bubbles...tech stocks and housing - it will likely overestimate the index fair value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cursive: Using 10 year average earnings probably is a good idea usually. The boys at the Comstock Funds did so recently and came up with an S&amp;P target of 500. In this case though, using 10 year average earnings will include parts of two distinct bubbles&#8230;tech stocks and housing &#8211; it will likely overestimate the index fair value.</p>
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