this: “…We are way beyond the point where we can afford to ignore warnings from the 99%+ of the experts who work with this every day..” seems to be a gross mischaracterization.

though, believe me, I’m a major proponent of Efficiency. And, for sure, this ‘Economy’ is predicated on Waste. But, this CO2 nonsense–Natural Sources, of which, far outstrip our Production of them, to begin with–is truly from the Poli-Sci pages of the Texts..

w/this: “So far I have seen lots of strawmen, tinfoil hats and refusal of facts.”

if you would, use an example from that Site, should be easy, to illustrate your point..

also, Lest we forget, the Biggest proponent of this Scheme, Al Gore, stands to make additional 10’s of Millions via Cap ‘n Trade/”Carbon Trading”..

I have seen those types of sites and arguments from pleanty of global warming deniers before. So far I have seen lots of strawmen, tinfoil hats and refusal of facts. The more serious people will follow patterns of “your explanation is only backed by facts to a 95% certainty level so this alternative explanation that I just pulled out of my a$$ (backed by nothing) can be just as likely an explanation”. It’s the standard right wing “hanging on to what we want to believe in spite of the facts” deal – and I don’t swollow that kind of stuff. We are way beyond the point where we can afford to ignore warnings from the 99%+ of the experts who work with this every day; just so we can continue endulging ourself with more cars, houses, juvelry and other idiotic useless sh•t that didn’t make us happy after all.

see: http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?452.last

you may begin to understand the other side of this ’settled’ non-debate..

We cannot Cork the Volcanoes (or the Cows); therefore, the more important that we do something about the pollution and greenhouse gases that we CAN affect.

that s**** from Posner stretches credulity to its aymptotes, maybe, even past them..

it’s, all, more of the same that Antifederalist No. 2 “WE HAVE BEEN TOLD OF PHANTOMS”" was telling us of..but that Author didn’t have an (sp)iPhone so he Must be wrong..
http://www.wepin.com/articles/afp/afp02.html

see these cats for starters: http://lingwarehouse.com/

the idea that ‘trolled clues’ need to be read by ‘humans’ is, sadisticly, untrue..

the same thing can be done with Voice and Video — data mining

truly, a-F-mazing..Posner should be disbarred for lying, or incompetence, or Both..

The FISA cases have been an abomination IMO.

I think we strongly agree that Posner is FOS in the following passage from his 2006 WSJ opinion:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB113996743590074183-search.html

National security intelligence is a search for the needle in a haystack. The intelligence services must cast a wide net with a fine mesh to catch the clues that may enable the next attack to be prevented. The initial trolling for clues is done by computer search programs, which do not invade privacy because search programs are not sentient beings. The programs pick out a tiny percentage of communications to be read by (human) intelligence officers, and a small subset of these will turn out to have intelligence value and spur an investigation.

this: “We cannot ban the emission of all CO2 tomorrow because it would completely destroy the economy. However, we can slowly reduce the emissions and save the planet from an ecological and economical disaster.”

is utter Bullsh*T.

tell me, when do propose to Cork the Volcanoes?

thanks for fleshing that out..

though, w/this: “Interestingly, the device here was a logging device, not a tracking device in the sense of permitting police to track location in real time.”

remember, anything, especially w/ a battery, has a pulse. those dataloggers may be weatherproof, but it’s doubtful that they’re EMR-shielded–with that, the ‘police’ may not have the appropriate antenna to ‘hone-in’ on it–but, someone does/can.
see, this thing http://www.microbus.com/ and, remember, it’s ability to lock-on/locate a different frequency is a download away/chip swap at most..

and, this: “One can imagine the police affixing GPS tracking devices to thousands of cars at random, recovering the devices, and using digital search techniques to identify suspicious driving patterns..”
from Posner, is spurious. that s**** was, already, happening through On*Star, at the very minimum.

and, see: FISA, for starters, don’t believe this: “and (2) Courts are on the lookout to draw a line at “persistent surveillance” “