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		<title>By: VennData</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/cra-thought-experiment/comment-page-3/#comment-192086</link>
		<dc:creator>VennData</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carter&#039;s Habitat for Humanity building caused the oversupply of housing I tell you.  It was Carter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carter&#8217;s Habitat for Humanity building caused the oversupply of housing I tell you.  It was Carter!</p>
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		<title>By: Scoring the Barry Ritholtz-John Carney CRA&#160;debate - The Curious Capitalist &#8211; TIME.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scoring the Barry Ritholtz-John Carney CRA&#160;debate - The Curious Capitalist &#8211; TIME.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I like this &quot;thought experiment&quot; by Barry on what the world would look like if CRA were in fact behind the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I like this &#8220;thought experiment&#8221; by Barry on what the world would look like if CRA were in fact behind the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Who is to Blame, 1-25 &#124; The Big Picture</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/cra-thought-experiment/comment-page-3/#comment-187848</link>
		<dc:creator>Who is to Blame, 1-25 &#124; The Big Picture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the thought experiment we did last week, we looked at what the world would look like if the CRA was a &#8220;prime cause [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the thought experiment we did last week, we looked at what the world would look like if the CRA was a &#8220;prime cause [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alas, a blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Link Farm</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/cra-thought-experiment/comment-page-3/#comment-187796</link>
		<dc:creator>Alas, a blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Link Farm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] No, the financial crash was not caused by the Community Reinvestment Act. It really wasn&#8217;t. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] No, the financial crash was not caused by the Community Reinvestment Act. It really wasn&#8217;t. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Willful Idiocy &#171; Weilerblog</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/cra-thought-experiment/comment-page-3/#comment-187655</link>
		<dc:creator>Willful Idiocy &#171; Weilerblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ritholtz of The Big Picture goes off on Carney here with a “CRA Thought Experiment”: In reality, the precise opposite of what a CRA-induced [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ritholtz of The Big Picture goes off on Carney here with a “CRA Thought Experiment”: In reality, the precise opposite of what a CRA-induced [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What CRA did do &#171; Alyssa Katz</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/cra-thought-experiment/comment-page-3/#comment-187511</link>
		<dc:creator>What CRA did do &#171; Alyssa Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] zero marketing budget, I can assure you of that&#8221; Also see CJR&#8217;s Ryan Chittum and Barry Ritholtz at The Big Picture with their own efforts to put the vile &#8220;CRA did it&#8221; myth to a quick [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] zero marketing budget, I can assure you of that&#8221; Also see CJR&#8217;s Ryan Chittum and Barry Ritholtz at The Big Picture with their own efforts to put the vile &#8220;CRA did it&#8221; myth to a quick [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lax Lending Standards: Blaming the CRA Doesn&#8217;t Add Up - Daily Buzz</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/cra-thought-experiment/comment-page-3/#comment-187499</link>
		<dc:creator>Lax Lending Standards: Blaming the CRA Doesn&#8217;t Add Up - Daily Buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Carney has posted three ways the CRA caused lax lending. Reminds me of last fall. Barry and Felix have already responded; I want to address Carney&#8217;s points more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Carney has posted three ways the CRA caused lax lending. Reminds me of last fall. Barry and Felix have already responded; I want to address Carney&rsquo;s points more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CJR, Ritholtz, Salmon all take Carney to the woodshed « Stocks Go Up. Stocks Go Down.</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJR, Ritholtz, Salmon all take Carney to the woodshed « Stocks Go Up. Stocks Go Down.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salmon’s posts are &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/06/25/john-carneys-bizarre-crusade-against-the-cra/#comment-3195&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/06/25/why-ltv-ratios-arent-always-a-good-default-predictor/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

Barry Ritholtz of The Big Picture goes off &lt;a href=&quot;../2009/06/cra-thought-experiment/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;on Carney here&lt;/a&gt; with a “CRA Thought Experiment”

Daniel Gross &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/2201641&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;took a whack&lt;/a&gt; at the CRA speciousness back in October over at Slate.

Federal Reserve Governor Elizabeth A. Duke &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/duke20090216a.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;talking to the&lt;/a&gt; American Bankers Association in February, noting that a tiny minority of loans were under the CRA

Paul Krugman &lt;a href=&quot;http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/17/more-notes-on-the-regulation-plan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;quotes from&lt;/a&gt; the administration’s new white paper on financial reform

The &lt;em&gt;Orange County Register&lt;/em&gt;’s Ronald Campbell had &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ocregister.com/articles/loans-subprime-banks-2228728-law-lenders&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an illuminating story&lt;/a&gt; in November looking at the CRA question.

Last year, the law firm Traiger &amp; Hinckley LLP &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.traigerlaw.com/publications/traiger_hinckley_llp_cra_foreclosure_study_1-7-08.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;found that (PDF)&lt;/a&gt; CRA banks were 58 percent less likely to issue high-cost loans

And another Federal Reserve Governor, this time Randall S. Kroszner, who &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/kroszner20081203a.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gave this speech&lt;/a&gt; in December (&lt;em&gt;debunking the CRA link&lt;/em&gt;)

How about more from the Fed? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.minneapolisfed.org/research/pub_display.cfm?id=4136&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This time&lt;/a&gt; from the Minneapolis bank

Here’s Ellen Seidman, former head of the Office of Thrift Supervision wrote against the CRA haters &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newamerica.net/blog/asset-building/2008/its-still-not-cra-7222&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, calling it “patent nonsense.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salmon’s posts are <a href="http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/06/25/john-carneys-bizarre-crusade-against-the-cra/#comment-3195" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/06/25/why-ltv-ratios-arent-always-a-good-default-predictor/#comments" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>Barry Ritholtz of The Big Picture goes off <a href="../2009/06/cra-thought-experiment/" rel="nofollow">on Carney here</a> with a “CRA Thought Experiment”</p>
<p>Daniel Gross <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2201641" rel="nofollow">took a whack</a> at the CRA speciousness back in October over at Slate.</p>
<p>Federal Reserve Governor Elizabeth A. Duke <a href="http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/duke20090216a.htm" rel="nofollow">talking to the</a> American Bankers Association in February, noting that a tiny minority of loans were under the CRA</p>
<p>Paul Krugman <a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/17/more-notes-on-the-regulation-plan/" rel="nofollow">quotes from</a> the administration’s new white paper on financial reform</p>
<p>The <em>Orange County Register</em>’s Ronald Campbell had <a href="http://www.ocregister.com/articles/loans-subprime-banks-2228728-law-lenders" rel="nofollow">an illuminating story</a> in November looking at the CRA question.</p>
<p>Last year, the law firm Traiger &amp; Hinckley LLP <a href="http://www.traigerlaw.com/publications/traiger_hinckley_llp_cra_foreclosure_study_1-7-08.pdf" rel="nofollow">found that (PDF)</a> CRA banks were 58 percent less likely to issue high-cost loans</p>
<p>And another Federal Reserve Governor, this time Randall S. Kroszner, who <a href="http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/kroszner20081203a.htm" rel="nofollow">gave this speech</a> in December (<em>debunking the CRA link</em>)</p>
<p>How about more from the Fed? <a href="http://www.minneapolisfed.org/research/pub_display.cfm?id=4136" rel="nofollow">This time</a> from the Minneapolis bank</p>
<p>Here’s Ellen Seidman, former head of the Office of Thrift Supervision wrote against the CRA haters <a href="http://www.newamerica.net/blog/asset-building/2008/its-still-not-cra-7222" rel="nofollow">here</a>, calling it “patent nonsense.”</p>
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		<title>By: cvienne</title>
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		<dc:creator>cvienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Thor

&quot;It is technically impossible for China to bring 1.3 billion people into the middle (consumer) class.&quot;

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It&#039;s kind of late in th game to thread this...but I&#039;ll go ahead anyway

Right on my friend...

This is a theme that I hammer all the time...Actually, I would describe it as RESOURCEFULLY IMPOSSIBLE (rather than technical), but I notice that you more or less say the same thing...

Our government (and the governments of the world), are going to have to start understanding RESOURCES in terms of their ECONOMIC agendas if we want to take a step forward...

My biggest problem with the present Administration is that they seem to want to turn the clock back to 2007 (or 1995), or whatever...Doing so would require resource depletion &amp; destruction on a global scale...

It is simply not viable...

So either we change out consumption patterns...OR...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Thor</p>
<p>&#8220;It is technically impossible for China to bring 1.3 billion people into the middle (consumer) class.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of late in th game to thread this&#8230;but I&#8217;ll go ahead anyway</p>
<p>Right on my friend&#8230;</p>
<p>This is a theme that I hammer all the time&#8230;Actually, I would describe it as RESOURCEFULLY IMPOSSIBLE (rather than technical), but I notice that you more or less say the same thing&#8230;</p>
<p>Our government (and the governments of the world), are going to have to start understanding RESOURCES in terms of their ECONOMIC agendas if we want to take a step forward&#8230;</p>
<p>My biggest problem with the present Administration is that they seem to want to turn the clock back to 2007 (or 1995), or whatever&#8230;Doing so would require resource depletion &amp; destruction on a global scale&#8230;</p>
<p>It is simply not viable&#8230;</p>
<p>So either we change out consumption patterns&#8230;OR&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: westiepup</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/cra-thought-experiment/comment-page-3/#comment-187357</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many well-written discussions of the effect of the CRA in this blog.  I have a simple comment:
the right-wing blowhards who blame the CRA for the economic crisis should ask their Republican friends who controlled Congress from 1995 to 2007 why they didn&#039;t get rid of this evil idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many well-written discussions of the effect of the CRA in this blog.  I have a simple comment:<br />
the right-wing blowhards who blame the CRA for the economic crisis should ask their Republican friends who controlled Congress from 1995 to 2007 why they didn&#8217;t get rid of this evil idea.</p>
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