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		<title>By: thetanman</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/mozilo-charged-with-fraud/comment-page-2/#comment-179560</link>
		<dc:creator>thetanman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cvienne,

I have in mind Good Fellas without the iron bars. And please no Anthony Stabile, Franky Carbone, Moe Black&#039;s brother Fat Andy, Frankie the Whop, Freddie No Nose, or Pete the Killer Sallie Balls&#039;s brother. Maybe just a stenographer, and I don&#039;t mean Rudolf Hess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cvienne,</p>
<p>I have in mind Good Fellas without the iron bars. And please no Anthony Stabile, Franky Carbone, Moe Black&#8217;s brother Fat Andy, Frankie the Whop, Freddie No Nose, or Pete the Killer Sallie Balls&#8217;s brother. Maybe just a stenographer, and I don&#8217;t mean Rudolf Hess.</p>
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		<title>By: farmera1</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/mozilo-charged-with-fraud/comment-page-2/#comment-179557</link>
		<dc:creator>farmera1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mozilo deserves to go to jail just for running those obnoxious, unethical,  irritating Countrywide adds pumping mortgages.

You remember the ones (enter the sleezey huckster) touting how you can move into a house for no money down, with low monthly payments. Just call this 800 number and you&#039;ll have your loan in 10 minutes.   

Every time I saw one of these adds it made my blood boil, I told my wife these adds are a sign of things gone mad, this won&#039;t end well.  

As they say the rest is history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mozilo deserves to go to jail just for running those obnoxious, unethical,  irritating Countrywide adds pumping mortgages.</p>
<p>You remember the ones (enter the sleezey huckster) touting how you can move into a house for no money down, with low monthly payments. Just call this 800 number and you&#8217;ll have your loan in 10 minutes.   </p>
<p>Every time I saw one of these adds it made my blood boil, I told my wife these adds are a sign of things gone mad, this won&#8217;t end well.  </p>
<p>As they say the rest is history.</p>
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		<title>By: JustinTheSkeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/mozilo-charged-with-fraud/comment-page-2/#comment-179552</link>
		<dc:creator>JustinTheSkeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More suggestions of price fixing.  Will they ever learn that nature has to take its course?  Remember the old song &quot;Bad, Bad Leroy Brown?&quot;  Don&#039;t, pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger, don&#039;t spit into the wind, don&#039;t mess around with Jim.  Let me add one more to that - don&#039;t mess around with prices.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/146d358c-5159-11de-84c3-00144feabdc0.html?referrer_id=yahoofinance&amp;ft_ref=yahoo1&amp;segid=03058</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More suggestions of price fixing.  Will they ever learn that nature has to take its course?  Remember the old song &#8220;Bad, Bad Leroy Brown?&#8221;  Don&#8217;t, pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger, don&#8217;t spit into the wind, don&#8217;t mess around with Jim.  Let me add one more to that &#8211; don&#8217;t mess around with prices.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/146d358c-5159-11de-84c3-00144feabdc0.html?referrer_id=yahoofinance&#038;ft_ref=yahoo1&#038;segid=03058" rel="nofollow">http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/146d358c-5159-11de-84c3-00144feabdc0.html?referrer_id=yahoofinance&#038;ft_ref=yahoo1&#038;segid=03058</a></p>
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		<title>By: TomOfTheNorth</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/mozilo-charged-with-fraud/comment-page-2/#comment-179551</link>
		<dc:creator>TomOfTheNorth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helloooooooo Ken Lewis! 

Material Non-Disclosure, Conspiracy to Defraud, and a Fiduciary Breach with his pals Hank &amp; Ben as unindicted co-consprirators on the Merrill deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helloooooooo Ken Lewis! </p>
<p>Material Non-Disclosure, Conspiracy to Defraud, and a Fiduciary Breach with his pals Hank &amp; Ben as unindicted co-consprirators on the Merrill deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Whammer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/mozilo-charged-with-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-179549</link>
		<dc:creator>Whammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Onlooker

Thanks very much, that is a fantastic article.  

Once again, this demonstrates what a berry good blog/community this is indeed.

And it is also a reminder that I may need to park some more dinero with Dr. Hussman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Onlooker</p>
<p>Thanks very much, that is a fantastic article.  </p>
<p>Once again, this demonstrates what a berry good blog/community this is indeed.</p>
<p>And it is also a reminder that I may need to park some more dinero with Dr. Hussman.</p>
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		<title>By: How the Common Man Sees It</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/mozilo-charged-with-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-179548</link>
		<dc:creator>How the Common Man Sees It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think the USG is targeting Italians- that’s what I think-&lt;/i&gt;

Nope. People with tans. 

Displaying tans is clear evidence of not being locked up in the office all day like the common man (although not this common man most fortunately) thus indicating a perk that will agitate the population. Thus &#039;tanmen&#039; must be made an example of to keep the population satisfied the government is still doing something</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think the USG is targeting Italians- that’s what I think-</i></p>
<p>Nope. People with tans. </p>
<p>Displaying tans is clear evidence of not being locked up in the office all day like the common man (although not this common man most fortunately) thus indicating a perk that will agitate the population. Thus &#8216;tanmen&#8217; must be made an example of to keep the population satisfied the government is still doing something</p>
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		<title>By: Onlooker from Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Onlooker from Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whammer

A person much smarter than me has an opinion or two on the so called &quot;Fed model&quot; that you&#039;re referring to re: valuing stock based on interest rates.  See Dr. Hussman&#039;s article here:

http://www.hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc070820.htm

He&#039;s written on this more than once so there is probably another article or two in his archives that address this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whammer</p>
<p>A person much smarter than me has an opinion or two on the so called &#8220;Fed model&#8221; that you&#8217;re referring to re: valuing stock based on interest rates.  See Dr. Hussman&#8217;s article here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc070820.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc070820.htm</a></p>
<p>He&#8217;s written on this more than once so there is probably another article or two in his archives that address this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Whammer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/mozilo-charged-with-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-179543</link>
		<dc:creator>Whammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 04:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steve B -- the only problem I have with historical P/E comps is how to relate them to the T-bill rates at the time.  If a T-bill is paying 15%, then any DCF of future equity earnings needs to be discounted pretty significantly, and the P/E of the stock will be pretty low.

Today, given our low &quot;risk free&quot; rates, the expectation for P/Es would be for them to be quite a bit higher than in the early &#039;80s, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve B &#8212; the only problem I have with historical P/E comps is how to relate them to the T-bill rates at the time.  If a T-bill is paying 15%, then any DCF of future equity earnings needs to be discounted pretty significantly, and the P/E of the stock will be pretty low.</p>
<p>Today, given our low &#8220;risk free&#8221; rates, the expectation for P/Es would be for them to be quite a bit higher than in the early &#8217;80s, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. C. Cheese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. C. Cheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do hope Mr. Mozilo is home by the 4th. We just RSVP  for his big get together up in Southhampton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do hope Mr. Mozilo is home by the 4th. We just RSVP  for his big get together up in Southhampton</p>
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		<title>By: patfla</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/mozilo-charged-with-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-179538</link>
		<dc:creator>patfla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mozilo.  Sort of reminds me of one those lawyer jokes.  !! Disclaimer !! &quot;many lawyers are people of great integrity and intellect and many of my best friends are lawyers&quot;  (of course there&#039;s some small number of lawyers who are considerable schmucks or worse).

Now with that out of the way.

What do you call a lawyer at the bottom of the sea?
A good start.

And @Stever Barry and @CNBC Sucks, I googled and I&#039;m surprised: these particular famous words from Keynes (as best I can tell in a very quick search) may not yet have been recorded on The Big Picture (surely I&#039;m wrong?)

&quot;The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent&quot;

Keynes&#039; record as an investor (for a Cambridge Univ fund) - and in a time period stretching over the Great Depression - is very impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mozilo.  Sort of reminds me of one those lawyer jokes.  !! Disclaimer !! &#8220;many lawyers are people of great integrity and intellect and many of my best friends are lawyers&#8221;  (of course there&#8217;s some small number of lawyers who are considerable schmucks or worse).</p>
<p>Now with that out of the way.</p>
<p>What do you call a lawyer at the bottom of the sea?<br />
A good start.</p>
<p>And @Stever Barry and @CNBC Sucks, I googled and I&#8217;m surprised: these particular famous words from Keynes (as best I can tell in a very quick search) may not yet have been recorded on The Big Picture (surely I&#8217;m wrong?)</p>
<p>&#8220;The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent&#8221;</p>
<p>Keynes&#8217; record as an investor (for a Cambridge Univ fund) &#8211; and in a time period stretching over the Great Depression &#8211; is very impressive.</p>
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