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	<title>Comments on: FDIC vs. the Banksters: &#8220;Regulators Feud as Banking System Overhauled&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Snickers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snickers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, good of you to structure the piece around a newspaper article and unpack the assumptions.  Also it was great to hear you with Tom Keene today. 

http://media.bloomberg.com/bb/avfile/News/Surveillance/vhJd8DQu17Eg.mp3

CW: &quot;The FDIC Chairman was doing her job while the rest of [the regulators of capital markets which underpin the world&#039;s primary reserve currency] these spineless weasels, these duplicitous, traitorous villains were selling out the taxpayer to subsidize the bond holders of the large banks — the clients of PIMCO, BlackRock and the rest of the Buy Side.&quot;

I don&#039;t know of anyone else who is calling much attention to this issue: Bondholders v Taxpayers. The knee-jerk is bonds are held by pension funds (PBGC) and Big Important Foreign Institutions (you really don&#039;t want to know how big or important -- trust us). More please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, good of you to structure the piece around a newspaper article and unpack the assumptions.  Also it was great to hear you with Tom Keene today. </p>
<p><a href="http://media.bloomberg.com/bb/avfile/News/Surveillance/vhJd8DQu17Eg.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://media.bloomberg.com/bb/avfile/News/Surveillance/vhJd8DQu17Eg.mp3</a></p>
<p>CW: &#8220;The FDIC Chairman was doing her job while the rest of [the regulators of capital markets which underpin the world's primary reserve currency] these spineless weasels, these duplicitous, traitorous villains were selling out the taxpayer to subsidize the bond holders of the large banks — the clients of PIMCO, BlackRock and the rest of the Buy Side.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know of anyone else who is calling much attention to this issue: Bondholders v Taxpayers. The knee-jerk is bonds are held by pension funds (PBGC) and Big Important Foreign Institutions (you really don&#8217;t want to know how big or important &#8212; trust us). More please.</p>
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		<title>By: DeDude</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris; thanks for the info.  Until we get beyond the “to big to fall” concept the only fair thing is to base deposit insurance premiums on all assets.  Actually a special extremely high premium should be payed by any bank that cannot prove that it can be resolved with minimal consequences, and that it, therefore, is NOT to big to fall.  

If the premium based on all liabilities drive institutions to separate their bond based and deposit based activities into two different companies, that would as far as I can see only be good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris; thanks for the info.  Until we get beyond the “to big to fall” concept the only fair thing is to base deposit insurance premiums on all assets.  Actually a special extremely high premium should be payed by any bank that cannot prove that it can be resolved with minimal consequences, and that it, therefore, is NOT to big to fall.  </p>
<p>If the premium based on all liabilities drive institutions to separate their bond based and deposit based activities into two different companies, that would as far as I can see only be good.</p>
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		<title>By: ShortWoman&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iran Revisited</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/the-fdic-vs-the-banksters-regulators-feud-as-banking-system-overhauled-nyt/comment-page-1/#comment-183308</link>
		<dc:creator>ShortWoman&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iran Revisited</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] needs a new sense of humor; Wolf Sanctuary; JP urges us to put blame where it belongs; Regulators Vs Bankers in the fight of the year; Wired on gadgets that were a waste of money; Truth in Comics; and Giant [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] needs a new sense of humor; Wolf Sanctuary; JP urges us to put blame where it belongs; Regulators Vs Bankers in the fight of the year; Wired on gadgets that were a waste of money; Truth in Comics; and Giant [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aggress Move puts BlackRock in ETF Business &#124; ZachStocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aggress Move puts BlackRock in ETF Business &#124; ZachStocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Other Articles of Interest  Blackstone Offers Mixed Results  Retail Stocks Appear Ready to Fail Ritholtz: FDIC vs. the Banksters Barron’s: Barclays and BlackRock – Passive [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Other Articles of Interest  Blackstone Offers Mixed Results  Retail Stocks Appear Ready to Fail Ritholtz: FDIC vs. the Banksters Barron’s: Barclays and BlackRock – Passive [...]</p>
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		<title>By: joshua rosner</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshua rosner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, You are 110% on target! Thanks for posting this.

I would add that the two most important actions taken during the crisis to honestly deal with TBTF (too big to fail or, as Ed Kane correctly prefers, &quot;too big to resolve&quot;) were not taken by the Fed, not by Treasury and not by the OCC. They were smart, discreet actions that have not been fully considered but were taken by... you guessed it, FDIC Chair Bair. 

The 2 most major risks generally considered to justify a consideration of an institution as TBTF are deposit runs and counterparty risks. 

The first was the FDIC&#039;s emergency increase in the insurance limit to $250,000 on interest bearing accounts and an unlimited dollar value for non-interest bearing accounts - this sends a strong message to retail and business customers - don&#039;t panic and pull your deposits. It ameliorates any rational basis for bank-runs.

The second was, to my mind, the most important piece of prudential rule-making in a decade. The public and markets have ignored it... The rule ( http://www.fdic.gov/news/board/08DEC15rule3.pdf ) requires institutions that are rated a 4 or 5 on CAMELS or are over $10bb in assets and rated a 3 to, upon written request of the FDIC, provide the FDIC will all relevant deal documentation regarding all QFC&#039;s. This includes information about the collateralization levels relative to exposures, the contact info for both the party and counterparty teams.... This rule was quietly opposed by Dugan and other seemingly &quot;captured regulators&quot; who argued it was too onerous. 

Too onerous my butt! It allows the FDIC to begin to consider and even possibly design the resolutions of large and complex institutions. Appropriately collateralized counterparties&#039; exposures could be placed in a &quot;good bank&quot; and under-collateralized in a &quot;bad bank&quot;. The rule became effective Jan 2009. We can assume that many troubled institutions are probably already being required to comply and, given the lack of lobbyist outcry, that they have found they are able to.

Unlike the regulators who seek to protect sleestacks, Ms. Bair has proven herself a capable and considered public servant. Unlike those who do the bidding of the banks that own the NY Fed, she should be given far more public support. 

LIke our President, Ms. Bair is working toward a day where we can institute policies that recognize the answer to &quot;too big to fail&quot; is not to be ok in accepting those institutions as a special and protected species but, rather, that it means they are too big. Perhaps assessing the costs of oversight proportionally to size and risk would create enough dis-incentives that some of these institutions would become &quot;small enough not to worry about&quot;.

Thanks again for the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, You are 110% on target! Thanks for posting this.</p>
<p>I would add that the two most important actions taken during the crisis to honestly deal with TBTF (too big to fail or, as Ed Kane correctly prefers, &#8220;too big to resolve&#8221;) were not taken by the Fed, not by Treasury and not by the OCC. They were smart, discreet actions that have not been fully considered but were taken by&#8230; you guessed it, FDIC Chair Bair. </p>
<p>The 2 most major risks generally considered to justify a consideration of an institution as TBTF are deposit runs and counterparty risks. </p>
<p>The first was the FDIC&#8217;s emergency increase in the insurance limit to $250,000 on interest bearing accounts and an unlimited dollar value for non-interest bearing accounts &#8211; this sends a strong message to retail and business customers &#8211; don&#8217;t panic and pull your deposits. It ameliorates any rational basis for bank-runs.</p>
<p>The second was, to my mind, the most important piece of prudential rule-making in a decade. The public and markets have ignored it&#8230; The rule ( <a href="http://www.fdic.gov/news/board/08DEC15rule3.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.fdic.gov/news/board/08DEC15rule3.pdf</a> ) requires institutions that are rated a 4 or 5 on CAMELS or are over $10bb in assets and rated a 3 to, upon written request of the FDIC, provide the FDIC will all relevant deal documentation regarding all QFC&#8217;s. This includes information about the collateralization levels relative to exposures, the contact info for both the party and counterparty teams&#8230;. This rule was quietly opposed by Dugan and other seemingly &#8220;captured regulators&#8221; who argued it was too onerous. </p>
<p>Too onerous my butt! It allows the FDIC to begin to consider and even possibly design the resolutions of large and complex institutions. Appropriately collateralized counterparties&#8217; exposures could be placed in a &#8220;good bank&#8221; and under-collateralized in a &#8220;bad bank&#8221;. The rule became effective Jan 2009. We can assume that many troubled institutions are probably already being required to comply and, given the lack of lobbyist outcry, that they have found they are able to.</p>
<p>Unlike the regulators who seek to protect sleestacks, Ms. Bair has proven herself a capable and considered public servant. Unlike those who do the bidding of the banks that own the NY Fed, she should be given far more public support. </p>
<p>LIke our President, Ms. Bair is working toward a day where we can institute policies that recognize the answer to &#8220;too big to fail&#8221; is not to be ok in accepting those institutions as a special and protected species but, rather, that it means they are too big. Perhaps assessing the costs of oversight proportionally to size and risk would create enough dis-incentives that some of these institutions would become &#8220;small enough not to worry about&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg0658</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg0658</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChrisW saw ya on PBS News Hour last week. Good job attempting the explain .. heady stuff for people out of the banking loop .. like me. Couldn&#039;t tell if it was new tape or old .. this thing has been going in circles awhile.

The 134B bearer bonds is a juicy story. &quot;Hans - did ya have to nuke the whole building?&quot;. Why the secrecy passing over customs? taxes / press / ... and for who? Japan / China / Roman Cath Church ... and I&#039;d like to know what the ratio of exchange is going at? 1:1 / 1:2 / 1:3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChrisW saw ya on PBS News Hour last week. Good job attempting the explain .. heady stuff for people out of the banking loop .. like me. Couldn&#8217;t tell if it was new tape or old .. this thing has been going in circles awhile.</p>
<p>The 134B bearer bonds is a juicy story. &#8220;Hans &#8211; did ya have to nuke the whole building?&#8221;. Why the secrecy passing over customs? taxes / press / &#8230; and for who? Japan / China / Roman Cath Church &#8230; and I&#8217;d like to know what the ratio of exchange is going at? 1:1 / 1:2 / 1:3</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Whalen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Whalen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify, the reason that the large banks pay less for deposit insurance is that more than 50% of their liabilities tend to be bonds, not deposits.  However, the FDIC has just levied the new premium based on total assets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, the reason that the large banks pay less for deposit insurance is that more than 50% of their liabilities tend to be bonds, not deposits.  However, the FDIC has just levied the new premium based on total assets.</p>
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		<title>By: BearishNews</title>
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		<dc:creator>BearishNews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always felt that Sheila is fighting against the tide, but have always been skeptical of her dedication to actual change. This article provides some insight into how rough a fight she is facing (assuming she is). 

Hopefully she&#039;s up to the task, it seems like a damn rough one. I can&#039;t imagine being in a room with all those high-level sales-guys, and being repeatedly berated for what they say are &quot;dangerous policies&quot;, when her goal is actually to protect the American taxpayer. Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always felt that Sheila is fighting against the tide, but have always been skeptical of her dedication to actual change. This article provides some insight into how rough a fight she is facing (assuming she is). </p>
<p>Hopefully she&#8217;s up to the task, it seems like a damn rough one. I can&#8217;t imagine being in a room with all those high-level sales-guys, and being repeatedly berated for what they say are &#8220;dangerous policies&#8221;, when her goal is actually to protect the American taxpayer. Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: alfred e</title>
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		<dc:creator>alfred e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pat G:  Thanks for sharing.  

I suppose there&#039;s still hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pat G:  Thanks for sharing.  </p>
<p>I suppose there&#8217;s still hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Onlooker from Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Onlooker from Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knowing how hard it is to stand up to the overwhelming political pressures (and probably downright threats in back rooms) in the halls of D.C., I have to come to the conclusion that Ms. Bair is made of some very stern stuff and is to be greatly admired.  Bully for her!!!  

I just hope that she doesn&#039;t get knifed in the back eventually.  She must also be as pure as the wind driven snow or else the jackals would have waged a smear campaign to be rid of her by now.  Interesting lady indeed.  We can only hope that she will win out in these battles for the taxpayer vs. the banksters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowing how hard it is to stand up to the overwhelming political pressures (and probably downright threats in back rooms) in the halls of D.C., I have to come to the conclusion that Ms. Bair is made of some very stern stuff and is to be greatly admired.  Bully for her!!!  </p>
<p>I just hope that she doesn&#8217;t get knifed in the back eventually.  She must also be as pure as the wind driven snow or else the jackals would have waged a smear campaign to be rid of her by now.  Interesting lady indeed.  We can only hope that she will win out in these battles for the taxpayer vs. the banksters.</p>
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