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		<title>By: Hell&#8217;s Yeah, My Man Mitch</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/07/state-tax-revenues-chart/comment-page-1/#comment-195362</link>
		<dc:creator>Hell&#8217;s Yeah, My Man Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] budget in surplus Most state budgets are in crisis. The Big Picture&#8217;s Barry Ritholtz notes that state tax revenue has fallen sharply the last two .... The left wing Center for Budget and Policy Priorities notes that &#8220;[a]t least 48 states [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] budget in surplus Most state budgets are in crisis. The Big Picture&#8217;s Barry Ritholtz notes that state tax revenue has fallen sharply the last two &#8230;. The left wing Center for Budget and Policy Priorities notes that &#8220;[a]t least 48 states [...]</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/07/state-tax-revenues-chart/comment-page-1/#comment-195248</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Onlooker from Troy:

I agree. Humans are pack-rats (not just money). I have a lot of crap that I don&#039;t need an won&#039;t ever need, but I feel compelled to save it since I have room. Maybe it&#039;s a spillover from the hunter-gatherer days, but it seems to be human nature to hoard things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Onlooker from Troy:</p>
<p>I agree. Humans are pack-rats (not just money). I have a lot of crap that I don&#8217;t need an won&#8217;t ever need, but I feel compelled to save it since I have room. Maybe it&#8217;s a spillover from the hunter-gatherer days, but it seems to be human nature to hoard things.</p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CA has a moving target with their rev losses. Even if job losses peaked at 700K or whatever how many more jobs will be lost over how many months before the train reverses direction? Next year will be worse than this year. No way around it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CA has a moving target with their rev losses. Even if job losses peaked at 700K or whatever how many more jobs will be lost over how many months before the train reverses direction? Next year will be worse than this year. No way around it.</p>
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		<title>By: More Hot Links: Cronkite, Bruno &#38; the Weinermobile &#171; The Reformed Broker</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/07/state-tax-revenues-chart/comment-page-1/#comment-195205</link>
		<dc:creator>More Hot Links: Cronkite, Bruno &#38; the Weinermobile &#171; The Reformed Broker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Barry Ritholtz takes a look at the rapidly collapsing income taxes being collected by state governments; muni bond investors take note.  (TBP) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Onlooker from Troy</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/07/state-tax-revenues-chart/comment-page-1/#comment-195202</link>
		<dc:creator>Onlooker from Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to disagree Mike.  I think that the fundamental true nature of  humans actually leads them to save for a rainy day, store up for hard times, etc.  We&#039;ve managed to engineer that out of us by having govt backstop us and by creating this consumerism of the last few decades.

Look at what the Chinese people do.  They save like crazy because they know that it&#039;s up to them to provide for their future.  They can&#039;t just spend it all with the knowledge that govt will provide a backstop.

But that is of course why we couldn&#039;t keep our mitts off of any bit of saved money/capital in the country over the last couple of decades.  There was always going to be more in the future.  On every level we scraped everything bit of money from every corner and leveraged it up.  Party on.

Now that we&#039;ve crashed the thing maybe we&#039;ll actually be able to save again, delaying gratification and actually planning ahead.  One can only hope that the lesson can stick.  God knows we&#039;re fighting it.

Indeed we need to actually go back to some anti-cyclical thinking and economic planning.  But you do have to guard against those who are eying the treasure that sits just begging to be pilfered and spent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to disagree Mike.  I think that the fundamental true nature of  humans actually leads them to save for a rainy day, store up for hard times, etc.  We&#8217;ve managed to engineer that out of us by having govt backstop us and by creating this consumerism of the last few decades.</p>
<p>Look at what the Chinese people do.  They save like crazy because they know that it&#8217;s up to them to provide for their future.  They can&#8217;t just spend it all with the knowledge that govt will provide a backstop.</p>
<p>But that is of course why we couldn&#8217;t keep our mitts off of any bit of saved money/capital in the country over the last couple of decades.  There was always going to be more in the future.  On every level we scraped everything bit of money from every corner and leveraged it up.  Party on.</p>
<p>Now that we&#8217;ve crashed the thing maybe we&#8217;ll actually be able to save again, delaying gratification and actually planning ahead.  One can only hope that the lesson can stick.  God knows we&#8217;re fighting it.</p>
<p>Indeed we need to actually go back to some anti-cyclical thinking and economic planning.  But you do have to guard against those who are eying the treasure that sits just begging to be pilfered and spent.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike in Nola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike in Nola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy T:

What you suggest goes against human nature. I know it goes against my nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy T:</p>
<p>What you suggest goes against human nature. I know it goes against my nature.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>States are replacing their tax shortfalls by using money that&#039;s being given to them by the USG for other purposes.  When that money stops trickling in, it&#039;ll get real interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>States are replacing their tax shortfalls by using money that&#8217;s being given to them by the USG for other purposes.  When that money stops trickling in, it&#8217;ll get real interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Common sense ain&#039;t so common.  I wonder when our leaders in government and banking are going to realize that every aspect of boom and busts are pro-cyclical.  In good times, government needs to save and constrain itself...build up surpluses.  So that in bad times you can spend like crazy and turn those surpluses into deficits because when things go to shit, EVERYTHING goes to shit.  All of your social programs get max&#039;d out AND your revenues go down at the SAME time.

These states with their balanced budget mandates is just about the most asinine economic policy one can imagine.  There are all sorts of unintended consequences.  In good times, there&#039;s a tendency for the state to not save anything...there&#039;s a tendency for state programs (i.e. education) to spend whatever they get.  There&#039;s a &quot;use it or lose it&quot; aspect to some of these budgets, so various departments just engage in wasteful spending because &quot;they might as well.&quot;  

Now, with the current depression, nothing can get funded, no matter how useful or good the idea may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common sense ain&#8217;t so common.  I wonder when our leaders in government and banking are going to realize that every aspect of boom and busts are pro-cyclical.  In good times, government needs to save and constrain itself&#8230;build up surpluses.  So that in bad times you can spend like crazy and turn those surpluses into deficits because when things go to shit, EVERYTHING goes to shit.  All of your social programs get max&#8217;d out AND your revenues go down at the SAME time.</p>
<p>These states with their balanced budget mandates is just about the most asinine economic policy one can imagine.  There are all sorts of unintended consequences.  In good times, there&#8217;s a tendency for the state to not save anything&#8230;there&#8217;s a tendency for state programs (i.e. education) to spend whatever they get.  There&#8217;s a &#8220;use it or lose it&#8221; aspect to some of these budgets, so various departments just engage in wasteful spending because &#8220;they might as well.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Now, with the current depression, nothing can get funded, no matter how useful or good the idea may be.</p>
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		<title>By: willid3</title>
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		<dc:creator>willid3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>more state problems
http://econompicdata.blogspot.com/2009/07/more-state-woes.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more state problems<br />
<a href="http://econompicdata.blogspot.com/2009/07/more-state-woes.html" rel="nofollow">http://econompicdata.blogspot.com/2009/07/more-state-woes.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Onlooker from Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Onlooker from Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MA

Ah, OK.  I was confoosed. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MA</p>
<p>Ah, OK.  I was confoosed. ;)</p>
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