Comments on: The End of Too Big to Fail ? http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/07/the-end-of-too-big-to-fail/ Macro Perspective on the Capital Markets, Economy, Geopolitics, Technology, and Digital Media Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:43:00 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: DeDude http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/07/the-end-of-too-big-to-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-190189 DeDude Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:57:42 +0000 http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/?p=31133#comment-190189 They understand that you have to make change by getting the incentives right. That is the kind of change that you can believe in (and that will work). Will it make it through the wall of congressional lobbyists and the last minute late night "change" in wording of bills - that remains to be seen. Give them an A for trying and lets see later what grade the democratic congress gets for succeeding. They understand that you have to make change by getting the incentives right. That is the kind of change that you can believe in (and that will work). Will it make it through the wall of congressional lobbyists and the last minute late night “change” in wording of bills – that remains to be seen. Give them an A for trying and lets see later what grade the democratic congress gets for succeeding.

]]> By: flipspiceland http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/07/the-end-of-too-big-to-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-190177 flipspiceland Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:47:32 +0000 http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/?p=31133#comment-190177 Only one thing wrong with Obama's programs, ideas, and thinking: If it isn't in Congress' interest, he can stuff them. The few at the senior positions in the Senate are royalty and THEY will decide what gets done and what doesn't. How do you think Paulson got away with his Trillion dollar giveaway to Golman Sucks, and the Chinese? Only one thing wrong with Obama’s programs, ideas, and thinking:

If it isn’t in Congress’ interest, he can stuff them.

The few at the senior positions in the Senate are royalty and THEY will decide what gets done and what doesn’t.

How do you think Paulson got away with his Trillion dollar giveaway to Golman Sucks, and the Chinese?

]]> By: Onlooker from Troy http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/07/the-end-of-too-big-to-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-190130 Onlooker from Troy Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:42:10 +0000 http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/?p=31133#comment-190130 I agree with the skeptical outlook on this. Sounds like posturing to assuage the critics and foreign govts. I agree with SB re: banks being utilities. But you know they'll fight tooth and nail to keep that from happening. They just can't stand the thought of not having their hands on all that capital to play with and lever up. I agree with the skeptical outlook on this. Sounds like posturing to assuage the critics and foreign govts. I agree with SB re: banks being utilities. But you know they’ll fight tooth and nail to keep that from happening. They just can’t stand the thought of not having their hands on all that capital to play with and lever up.

]]> By: call me ahab http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/07/the-end-of-too-big-to-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-190115 call me ahab Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:14:50 +0000 http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/?p=31133#comment-190115 I saw this story- and it had me wondering- why now? Why wasn't this postulated months ago- PR possibly? I wonder how much will come of it I saw this story- and it had me wondering- why now? Why wasn’t this postulated months ago- PR possibly? I wonder how much will come of it

]]> By: Failing Upwards: The Wall Street White House | The Big Picture http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/07/the-end-of-too-big-to-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-190106 Failing Upwards: The Wall Street White House | The Big Picture Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:00:37 +0000 http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/?p=31133#comment-190106 [...] We are seeing belated glimmers of understanding of the credit crisis from the White House. Still nothing on the Ratings Agencies, and Glass Steagall, and too little on Derivatives and leverage, but at least there seems to be some recognition on TBTF (see The End of Too Big to Fail ?). [...] [...] We are seeing belated glimmers of understanding of the credit crisis from the White House. Still nothing on the Ratings Agencies, and Glass Steagall, and too little on Derivatives and leverage, but at least there seems to be some recognition on TBTF (see The End of Too Big to Fail ?). [...]

]]> By: matt http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/07/the-end-of-too-big-to-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-190105 matt Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:57:47 +0000 http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/?p=31133#comment-190105 "I’ll believe it when I see it . . ." If I see it, I'll know that someone put something in my drink. “I’ll believe it when I see it . . .”

If I see it, I’ll know that someone put something in my drink.

]]> By: Bruce in Tn http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/07/the-end-of-too-big-to-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-190089 Bruce in Tn Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:25:17 +0000 http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/?p=31133#comment-190089 Thor: I am content with the economics of the thing...Obama was elected and I suppose the plan to stop a deleveraging populace was well thought out...big banks were saved and here is where we are. But, this week, Obama meets with the Russians...let me let you read something: All three leaders were trying to establish an agenda for governing post-war Germany. Churchill's Soviet policy differed vastly from that of Roosevelt, with the former believing Stalin to be a "devil"-like tyrant leading a vile system.[1] In 1943, U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union William Christian Bullitt, Jr.'s thesis prophesied the "flow of the Red amoeba into Europe". Roosevelt responded to Bullitt, Jr. with a statement summarizing his rationale for war time relations with Stalin:[2] I just have a hunch that Stalin is not that kind of a man. . . . I think that if I give him everything I possibly can and ask for nothing from him in return, noblesse oblige, he won't try to annex anything and will work with me for a world of democracy and peace. ” —Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1943 ....I know FDR is Obama's hero, but he seems so inexperienced and I am concerned Putin is going to take real advantage here...Stalin got Roosevelt to agree to 50 years of communism for Eastern Europe, and we won't hear what is brokered this week... Thor:

I am content with the economics of the thing…Obama was elected and I suppose the plan to stop a deleveraging populace was well thought out…big banks were saved and here is where we are.

But, this week, Obama meets with the Russians…let me let you read something:

All three leaders were trying to establish an agenda for governing post-war Germany. Churchill’s Soviet policy differed vastly from that of Roosevelt, with the former believing Stalin to be a “devil”-like tyrant leading a vile system.[1] In 1943, U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union William Christian Bullitt, Jr.’s thesis prophesied the “flow of the Red amoeba into Europe”. Roosevelt responded to Bullitt, Jr. with a statement summarizing his rationale for war time relations with Stalin:[2]

I just have a hunch that Stalin is not that kind of a man. . . . I think that if I give him everything I possibly can and ask for nothing from him in return, noblesse oblige, he won’t try to annex anything and will work with me for a world of democracy and peace. ”
—Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1943

….I know FDR is Obama’s hero, but he seems so inexperienced and I am concerned Putin is going to take real advantage here…Stalin got Roosevelt to agree to 50 years of communism for Eastern Europe, and we won’t hear what is brokered this week…

]]> By: danm http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/07/the-end-of-too-big-to-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-190087 danm Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:17:29 +0000 http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/?p=31133#comment-190087 Nothing will be done until we reach part 2 of the credit crisis. Things are still looking too stable now for government to do anything drastic. Nothing will be done until we reach part 2 of the credit crisis.

Things are still looking too stable now for government to do anything drastic.

]]> By: james hogan http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/07/the-end-of-too-big-to-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-190082 james hogan Mon, 06 Jul 2009 06:40:08 +0000 http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/?p=31133#comment-190082 @ FrancoisT: The story in the link you provided would make one helluva movie. @ FrancoisT:

The story in the link you provided would make one helluva movie.

]]> By: Mark E Hoffer http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/07/the-end-of-too-big-to-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-190078 Mark E Hoffer Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:57:49 +0000 http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/?p=31133#comment-190078 Thor, you mean, after U$D ~12 Trillion of Bailouts, it's a good time for them(44's admin.) to be jawboning, and for us to "give them a little credit for it"? and, the MSM wising up? Hello, the second-half is Here. hard to keep up the 'Sunny' forecasts, when peep are looking for Noah's plans.. 2Q 'earnings' are coming in soft, the "1H '10 is the green patch" BS will start soon thereafter.. Thor,

you mean, after U$D ~12 Trillion of Bailouts, it’s a good time for them(44’s admin.) to be jawboning, and for us to “give them a little credit for it”?

and, the MSM wising up? Hello, the second-half is Here.

hard to keep up the ‘Sunny’ forecasts, when peep are looking for Noah’s plans..

2Q ‘earnings’ are coming in soft, the “1H ‘10 is the green patch” BS will start soon thereafter..

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