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		<title>By: The New Guilded Age :: ASPO-USA: Association for the Study of Peak Oil and Gas</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/08/bad-bears-or-road-to-recovery/comment-page-1/#comment-209348</link>
		<dc:creator>The New Guilded Age :: ASPO-USA: Association for the Study of Peak Oil and Gas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see Barry Ritholtz&#039;s Bad Bears or Road to Recovery? to see a graph comparing the current Splenda market &quot;rally&quot; to previous bear market [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] see Barry Ritholtz&#8217;s Bad Bears or Road to Recovery? to see a graph comparing the current Splenda market &#8220;rally&#8221; to previous bear market [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sunday links: bottom lines Abnormal Returns</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/08/bad-bears-or-road-to-recovery/comment-page-1/#comment-207959</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunday links: bottom lines Abnormal Returns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Three mega-bear markets compared.  (dshort also Big Picture) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Weekend links &#171; ˈā-kwə-tēs</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/08/bad-bears-or-road-to-recovery/comment-page-1/#comment-207857</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekend links &#171; ˈā-kwə-tēs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bears &#8211; Barron&#8217;s&#8230;and Ritholtz&#8217;s response Bad Bears or Road to Recovery? &#8211; Big [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 04:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Seattle Chill

Totally agree and made the same point above. However, some sentiment indicators showed an increase in bearishness last week

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sentiment-picture-surprisingly-brightens-2009-08-21

But after this weeks big move, i&#039;d wager there&#039;s a shift back to more bullishness. Either way, i&#039;m not reading too much into the next two weeks and more honest action should be on display post labor day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Seattle Chill</p>
<p>Totally agree and made the same point above. However, some sentiment indicators showed an increase in bearishness last week</p>
<p><a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sentiment-picture-surprisingly-brightens-2009-08-21" rel="nofollow">http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sentiment-picture-surprisingly-brightens-2009-08-21</a></p>
<p>But after this weeks big move, i&#8217;d wager there&#8217;s a shift back to more bullishness. Either way, i&#8217;m not reading too much into the next two weeks and more honest action should be on display post labor day.</p>
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		<title>By: Mannwich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mannwich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know anecdotal evidence is unreliable bit I&#039;m out right now in downtown mpls and have never seen it so dead on a saturday night, even in the frigid winter.  Every place is basically dead, even the newer W hotel bar, which is usually wall to wall people. Its literally not even 1/4 full right now.  Not kidding.  My buddies and I are all shocked by this.  Just the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know anecdotal evidence is unreliable bit I&#8217;m out right now in downtown mpls and have never seen it so dead on a saturday night, even in the frigid winter.  Every place is basically dead, even the newer W hotel bar, which is usually wall to wall people. Its literally not even 1/4 full right now.  Not kidding.  My buddies and I are all shocked by this.  Just the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: danm</title>
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		<dc:creator>danm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Danm

How many people live and therefore are covered in Canada? About as many as two of our states, that’s how many. 
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What&#039;s your point?  That your country is too populous to nationalize?  Baloney.

Our system works by province anyway.  If you went state by state it would be the equivalent.

If you keep the system as it is, most of your people are going to end up in the public system anyway as the population gets older, drops out of the workforce and as companies cut down on health care benefits to cut costs.  So either you become a giant Calcutta or you nationalize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Danm</p>
<p>How many people live and therefore are covered in Canada? About as many as two of our states, that’s how many.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
What&#8217;s your point?  That your country is too populous to nationalize?  Baloney.</p>
<p>Our system works by province anyway.  If you went state by state it would be the equivalent.</p>
<p>If you keep the system as it is, most of your people are going to end up in the public system anyway as the population gets older, drops out of the workforce and as companies cut down on health care benefits to cut costs.  So either you become a giant Calcutta or you nationalize.</p>
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		<title>By: call me ahab</title>
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		<dc:creator>call me ahab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sb-

good point</description>
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<p>good point</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Diggedy:

It&#039;s not so much the printing presses, but the implied backstop of the government that has eased the panic...not the bad debts mind you...those are still there. But there will be no free lunch. Other things will now break, because you just cannot solve a mountain of debt by propping it up and making more debt. We are on borrowed time. The most amazing thing to me is how the general public and MSM so believe the crisis is fixed. Stocks only rise now if the dollar falls...how&#039;s that gonna work out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Diggedy:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not so much the printing presses, but the implied backstop of the government that has eased the panic&#8230;not the bad debts mind you&#8230;those are still there. But there will be no free lunch. Other things will now break, because you just cannot solve a mountain of debt by propping it up and making more debt. We are on borrowed time. The most amazing thing to me is how the general public and MSM so believe the crisis is fixed. Stocks only rise now if the dollar falls&#8230;how&#8217;s that gonna work out?</p>
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		<title>By: jrm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I meant its P/E is less than 10 and its dividend yield is 5%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I meant its P/E is less than 10 and its dividend yield is 5%.</p>
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		<title>By: jrm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(My favorite bear remains Bear Grylls.)

Deciding to sell is harder than deciding to buy. 

I think the rally still has room to go, even for some financials.

Take Allianz for example. The stock is up 50% for March lows, but its P/E is  5%.</description>
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<p>Deciding to sell is harder than deciding to buy. </p>
<p>I think the rally still has room to go, even for some financials.</p>
<p>Take Allianz for example. The stock is up 50% for March lows, but its P/E is  5%.</p>
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