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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/09/duty-calls/comment-page-1/#comment-220688</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GetALife Says: September 29th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

Does GOOG say what it is &#039;polluted&#039; with? 

Haven&#039;t, seemingly, had issues at this end, though, thanks, I guess, for the note~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GetALife Says: September 29th, 2009 at 12:54 pm</p>
<p>Does GOOG say what it is &#8216;polluted&#8217; with? </p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t, seemingly, had issues at this end, though, thanks, I guess, for the note~</p>
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		<title>By: Thor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bsneath - point taken, and I&#039;ll concede your point as well. I think you&#039;ve made yourself clear that you&#039;re not a right wing nutjob and that your choice of words (and in all fairness, my own reaction to them) might have been misplaced.

I doubt BR minds the way this thread has evolved. After all, it has been perfectly to the point of the cartoon in the thread ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bsneath &#8211; point taken, and I&#8217;ll concede your point as well. I think you&#8217;ve made yourself clear that you&#8217;re not a right wing nutjob and that your choice of words (and in all fairness, my own reaction to them) might have been misplaced.</p>
<p>I doubt BR minds the way this thread has evolved. After all, it has been perfectly to the point of the cartoon in the thread ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: bsneath</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsneath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry folks,

 I do not watch FOX because it is obviously biased to the right just as is MSNBC is to the left.  (Believe it or not, I have found CBS to be the most objective recently)

No, I would not vote for Palin, she lacks experience and represents the Christian conservative part of the Republican Party that does in fact wish to impose morals upon others.


Thor,  my sarcasm got away from me - but it was directed at making a point with other responders, not with your theme on elitism.  

Thor, the elitist class and the best and the brightest are not always one in the same.  There are many elites of inherited wealth or name.   

The best and brightest are truly the ones who make a difference in society.  Bill Gates, Sergy Brinn, Michael Jackson, Warren Buffet, to name a few, all have adds immense value and wealth to society in their respective areas.

 Having said that, yes I am angry at the best and brightest.  Why?  Because it appears greed has corrupted this class.    

The best and brightest  must be held responsible for the economic destruction that we face today.  For the same reasons that you put forth in support of the best and brightest, it is disingenuous to blame the  financially less-than-literate home buyers for the collapse in housing.   No, it was the best and brightest, most clever and articulate investment bankers who were responsible for this morass.  

Personal greed reined over ethical business practices.  Catering to political agendas rather than responsible business solutions.   Yes this country is in very bad shape and I do not see any action being taken to make it better.   Once all the damage is done,  I predict we will be operating with an economy that is between 15% - 25% smaller than it was two years ago.  

One of the causes of the Great Depression was the concentration of wealth.  Today wealth concentration is even greater.  $30 billion in bank bonuses is going the wrong direction, btw.  

How is the middle class and working class going to purchase goods or services when their paychecks are falling and their access to credit has been cut off?  Why has the Democratic Party not even bought up this issue?  It is because of the greed and the power and influence of the elites who own both political parties.

OK - Everyone blast me and then we can move on to other topics.  (Besides, I suspect BR is getting annoyed about now.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry folks,</p>
<p> I do not watch FOX because it is obviously biased to the right just as is MSNBC is to the left.  (Believe it or not, I have found CBS to be the most objective recently)</p>
<p>No, I would not vote for Palin, she lacks experience and represents the Christian conservative part of the Republican Party that does in fact wish to impose morals upon others.</p>
<p>Thor,  my sarcasm got away from me &#8211; but it was directed at making a point with other responders, not with your theme on elitism.  </p>
<p>Thor, the elitist class and the best and the brightest are not always one in the same.  There are many elites of inherited wealth or name.   </p>
<p>The best and brightest are truly the ones who make a difference in society.  Bill Gates, Sergy Brinn, Michael Jackson, Warren Buffet, to name a few, all have adds immense value and wealth to society in their respective areas.</p>
<p> Having said that, yes I am angry at the best and brightest.  Why?  Because it appears greed has corrupted this class.    </p>
<p>The best and brightest  must be held responsible for the economic destruction that we face today.  For the same reasons that you put forth in support of the best and brightest, it is disingenuous to blame the  financially less-than-literate home buyers for the collapse in housing.   No, it was the best and brightest, most clever and articulate investment bankers who were responsible for this morass.  </p>
<p>Personal greed reined over ethical business practices.  Catering to political agendas rather than responsible business solutions.   Yes this country is in very bad shape and I do not see any action being taken to make it better.   Once all the damage is done,  I predict we will be operating with an economy that is between 15% &#8211; 25% smaller than it was two years ago.  </p>
<p>One of the causes of the Great Depression was the concentration of wealth.  Today wealth concentration is even greater.  $30 billion in bank bonuses is going the wrong direction, btw.  </p>
<p>How is the middle class and working class going to purchase goods or services when their paychecks are falling and their access to credit has been cut off?  Why has the Democratic Party not even bought up this issue?  It is because of the greed and the power and influence of the elites who own both political parties.</p>
<p>OK &#8211; Everyone blast me and then we can move on to other topics.  (Besides, I suspect BR is getting annoyed about now.)</p>
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		<title>By: Thor</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/09/duty-calls/comment-page-1/#comment-220589</link>
		<dc:creator>Thor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You actually don’t know a damn thing about my moral belief system&quot;

Hah!

&quot;I just didn’t understand how “smart” you folks on the coasts are&quot;
&quot;a complete and total collapse of values in our society.&quot;
&quot;arrogant liberals on both coasts who feel they can make up their own rules and who live by a code of hypocrisy&quot;
&quot;please tell me why so many elitists&quot;
&quot;We neanderthals in the heartlands are really, really angry. You will hear from us in about 13 months&quot;

This is like shooting fish in a barrel. 

BSneath - Let me put it in plain english so you can understand the point here.  The minute you brought in the term &quot;elites&quot; and started mentioning &quot;smart people on the coasts&quot; you identified yourself as a right wing nut-job. Whether or not this is true - you might want to pay closer attention to the words you use in the future. Especially here. You may be able to get away with that sloppy kind of logic where you live, but here we&#039;re going to call you on your bullshit. Take it or leave it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You actually don’t know a damn thing about my moral belief system&#8221;</p>
<p>Hah!</p>
<p>&#8220;I just didn’t understand how “smart” you folks on the coasts are&#8221;<br />
&#8220;a complete and total collapse of values in our society.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;arrogant liberals on both coasts who feel they can make up their own rules and who live by a code of hypocrisy&#8221;<br />
&#8220;please tell me why so many elitists&#8221;<br />
&#8220;We neanderthals in the heartlands are really, really angry. You will hear from us in about 13 months&#8221;</p>
<p>This is like shooting fish in a barrel. </p>
<p>BSneath &#8211; Let me put it in plain english so you can understand the point here.  The minute you brought in the term &#8220;elites&#8221; and started mentioning &#8220;smart people on the coasts&#8221; you identified yourself as a right wing nut-job. Whether or not this is true &#8211; you might want to pay closer attention to the words you use in the future. Especially here. You may be able to get away with that sloppy kind of logic where you live, but here we&#8217;re going to call you on your bullshit. Take it or leave it.</p>
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		<title>By: bsneath</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsneath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Winston Munn Says:  &quot;I see. This is about imposing Y-O-U-R belief system. Gotcha.&quot;

You actually don&#039;t know a damn thing about my moral belief system except for my obvious opposition to pedophilia, or my political belief system except for my contempt for a political process where the rich and powerful yield inordinate power.   Rather you are categorizing me as a right-winger perhaps because I do not succumb to leftist group-think ideology (and probably because I likely insulted you with my &quot;out of touch liberals making up the rules&quot; rant earlier) . 

Clearly I have misgivings for having voted for someone who apparently is not who he represented himself to be as a candidate (and for which I accept full responsibility that I should have known better since a leopard doesn&#039;t change its spots).   

No, I am  &quot;moderate independent&quot;.   You know, the ones who oftentimes determine who gets elected and re-elected.

I am not imposing any belief system other than what I think is an obvious belief that in a civilized society one does not lie, cheat or steal, and that no one should be above the law regardless of how rich, powerful, gifted or connected.   

If you wish to debate on these principals, then lets have ago at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winston Munn Says:  &#8220;I see. This is about imposing Y-O-U-R belief system. Gotcha.&#8221;</p>
<p>You actually don&#8217;t know a damn thing about my moral belief system except for my obvious opposition to pedophilia, or my political belief system except for my contempt for a political process where the rich and powerful yield inordinate power.   Rather you are categorizing me as a right-winger perhaps because I do not succumb to leftist group-think ideology (and probably because I likely insulted you with my &#8220;out of touch liberals making up the rules&#8221; rant earlier) . </p>
<p>Clearly I have misgivings for having voted for someone who apparently is not who he represented himself to be as a candidate (and for which I accept full responsibility that I should have known better since a leopard doesn&#8217;t change its spots).   </p>
<p>No, I am  &#8220;moderate independent&#8221;.   You know, the ones who oftentimes determine who gets elected and re-elected.</p>
<p>I am not imposing any belief system other than what I think is an obvious belief that in a civilized society one does not lie, cheat or steal, and that no one should be above the law regardless of how rich, powerful, gifted or connected.   </p>
<p>If you wish to debate on these principals, then lets have ago at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Thor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I wouldn&#039;t call myself a liberal, I&#039;m certainly not an Obama fan-boy by any stretch. Socially, yes, I&#039;m very liberal, kind of hard not to be given who I am as a person (read into that what you like). 

To be perfectly clear, my issue is not with being on the left or the right - it&#039;s people on the extremes who I think are a real danger to this country. This is, of course, people who are on the social extremes of the political spectrum. As for government itself, I agree with MEH, there is no difference whatsoever between the political parties in this country today. People who actually believe there is are just not paying close enough attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I wouldn&#8217;t call myself a liberal, I&#8217;m certainly not an Obama fan-boy by any stretch. Socially, yes, I&#8217;m very liberal, kind of hard not to be given who I am as a person (read into that what you like). </p>
<p>To be perfectly clear, my issue is not with being on the left or the right &#8211; it&#8217;s people on the extremes who I think are a real danger to this country. This is, of course, people who are on the social extremes of the political spectrum. As for government itself, I agree with MEH, there is no difference whatsoever between the political parties in this country today. People who actually believe there is are just not paying close enough attention.</p>
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		<title>By: GetALife</title>
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		<dc:creator>GetALife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thor and bsneath: ya both have some valid perspectives.  I listen to lots of different media so I recognize bsneath as a Fox News hound. Now be4 you attack me sneath I watch FOx and like some of it too but ya sound like sean hannity here.  Thor made a well intentioned and valid point and even though the lad may be a liberal, they aren&#039;t always wrong for goodness gracious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thor and bsneath: ya both have some valid perspectives.  I listen to lots of different media so I recognize bsneath as a Fox News hound. Now be4 you attack me sneath I watch FOx and like some of it too but ya sound like sean hannity here.  Thor made a well intentioned and valid point and even though the lad may be a liberal, they aren&#8217;t always wrong for goodness gracious.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston Munn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston Munn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bsneath wrote, &quot;We neanderthals in the heartlands are really, really angry. You will hear from us in about 13 months. Until then, keep on smirking………&quot;

O.K.  There is one vote for Palin.  Who&#039;ll make it two?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bsneath wrote, &#8220;We neanderthals in the heartlands are really, really angry. You will hear from us in about 13 months. Until then, keep on smirking………&#8221;</p>
<p>O.K.  There is one vote for Palin.  Who&#8217;ll make it two?</p>
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		<title>By: Thor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bsneath - My original reply to your post was to prove a point. You have gone far and above the call of duty here.

None of this has anything to do with children or roman polanksi - you took it as an opportunity to make a rather vapid and transparent swipe at people who do not see the world as you do. 

You just don&#039;t get it do you? This entire debate has gone right over your head. In your mind we&#039;re defending a pedophile aren&#039;t we?

God, this country is so screwed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bsneath &#8211; My original reply to your post was to prove a point. You have gone far and above the call of duty here.</p>
<p>None of this has anything to do with children or roman polanksi &#8211; you took it as an opportunity to make a rather vapid and transparent swipe at people who do not see the world as you do. </p>
<p>You just don&#8217;t get it do you? This entire debate has gone right over your head. In your mind we&#8217;re defending a pedophile aren&#8217;t we?</p>
<p>God, this country is so screwed</p>
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		<title>By: bsneath</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/09/duty-calls/comment-page-1/#comment-220561</link>
		<dc:creator>bsneath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>beaufou Says:   

It was.  Thanks for the laugh.

As for the others, I apologize that my belief system of honesty and integrity is so offensive to you.  So I guess  it is perfectly acceptable to lie, cheat and steal? .... and apparently violate innocent children as well?  - or at least if your are rich and famous?   And further it is &quot;dumbness&quot; to think that a civilized human society should act differently and more responsibly than our cavemen brethren?  

Well then, I stand corrected.  I just didn&#039;t understand how &quot;smart&quot; you folks on the coasts are.  Clearly the rest of us peasants are not worthy in the face of your far superior capacity in selective moral judgment and intellectual rationalization.  

Jeeeez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beaufou Says:   </p>
<p>It was.  Thanks for the laugh.</p>
<p>As for the others, I apologize that my belief system of honesty and integrity is so offensive to you.  So I guess  it is perfectly acceptable to lie, cheat and steal? &#8230;. and apparently violate innocent children as well?  &#8211; or at least if your are rich and famous?   And further it is &#8220;dumbness&#8221; to think that a civilized human society should act differently and more responsibly than our cavemen brethren?  </p>
<p>Well then, I stand corrected.  I just didn&#8217;t understand how &#8220;smart&#8221; you folks on the coasts are.  Clearly the rest of us peasants are not worthy in the face of your far superior capacity in selective moral judgment and intellectual rationalization.  </p>
<p>Jeeeez.</p>
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