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	<title>Comments on: Goldman Sachs: “A Bunch of Clever Thugs”</title>
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		<title>By: The Vilification of Goldman Sachs&#8217; Pay Practices &#124; The Big Picture</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/goldman-sachs-%e2%80%9ca-bunch-of-clever-thugs%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-229079</link>
		<dc:creator>The Vilification of Goldman Sachs&#8217; Pay Practices &#124; The Big Picture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Goldman Sachs: “A Bunch of Clever Thugs” (Oct 15, 2009) http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/goldman-sachs-%E2%80%9Ca-bunch-of-clever-thugs%E2%80%9D/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Goldman Sachs: “A Bunch of Clever Thugs” (Oct 15, 2009) <a href="http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/goldman-sachs-%E2%80%9Ca-bunch-of-clever-thugs%E2%80%9D/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/goldman-sachs-%E2%80%9Ca-bunch-of-clever-thugs%E2%80%9D/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: vasco7777</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/goldman-sachs-%e2%80%9ca-bunch-of-clever-thugs%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-226342</link>
		<dc:creator>vasco7777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry reminds me of Larry the Mayor of Amity in Jaws.  &quot;Water&#039;s fine, get back in there people and you Brody, quit scaring them!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry reminds me of Larry the Mayor of Amity in Jaws.  &#8220;Water&#8217;s fine, get back in there people and you Brody, quit scaring them!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/goldman-sachs-%e2%80%9ca-bunch-of-clever-thugs%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-226243</link>
		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry is a tool and the only person on this forum spouting this non-sense.

He is the same guy that thought house prices would keep rising in 2007 after prices deviated by six standard deviations.

We experienced a six standard deviation move in the markets this year...care to tell me how this will turn out different that the housing market?

Troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry is a tool and the only person on this forum spouting this non-sense.</p>
<p>He is the same guy that thought house prices would keep rising in 2007 after prices deviated by six standard deviations.</p>
<p>We experienced a six standard deviation move in the markets this year&#8230;care to tell me how this will turn out different that the housing market?</p>
<p>Troll.</p>
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		<title>By: highside</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/goldman-sachs-%e2%80%9ca-bunch-of-clever-thugs%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-226230</link>
		<dc:creator>highside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on guys and girls the probability is Harry is a paid troll.

GS et al are fully aware of blogs like this and surely wish to try and influence opinion even if they know it will only have a small effect.

Look at the complaints about the &quot;Failure Circus&quot;  and the attempts to link discussion here to Denninger.  Classic troll arguments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on guys and girls the probability is Harry is a paid troll.</p>
<p>GS et al are fully aware of blogs like this and surely wish to try and influence opinion even if they know it will only have a small effect.</p>
<p>Look at the complaints about the &#8220;Failure Circus&#8221;  and the attempts to link discussion here to Denninger.  Classic troll arguments</p>
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		<title>By: rootless_cosmopolitan</title>
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		<dc:creator>rootless_cosmopolitan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry Wanger,

&quot;The economic recovery does indeed justify the market rally.&quot;

And the market rally proves the economic recovery, doesn&#039;t it?

Are you going to provide some hard data to support your claim that the market was &quot;undervalued&quot; at this point? I guess not.

I guess you neither won&#039;t tell me where you allegedly have provided all the detailed responses backed by analysis and hard data on the subject where the great recovery is going to come from once the unprecedented government stimulus to the economy is faded.

rc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Wanger,</p>
<p>&#8220;The economic recovery does indeed justify the market rally.&#8221;</p>
<p>And the market rally proves the economic recovery, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Are you going to provide some hard data to support your claim that the market was &#8220;undervalued&#8221; at this point? I guess not.</p>
<p>I guess you neither won&#8217;t tell me where you allegedly have provided all the detailed responses backed by analysis and hard data on the subject where the great recovery is going to come from once the unprecedented government stimulus to the economy is faded.</p>
<p>rc</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/goldman-sachs-%e2%80%9ca-bunch-of-clever-thugs%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-226180</link>
		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Banks fighting legislation: 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-borosage/will-we-curb-wall-streets_b_320549.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banks fighting legislation: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-borosage/will-we-curb-wall-streets_b_320549.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-borosage/will-we-curb-wall-streets_b_320549.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: HarryWanger</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/goldman-sachs-%e2%80%9ca-bunch-of-clever-thugs%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-226178</link>
		<dc:creator>HarryWanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rootless: The economic recovery does indeed justify the market rally.

Rikky: I&#039;ve backed up my posts with facts for weeks. Doesn&#039;t matter here. The Failure Caucus is in full swing here and no matter what facts I post, they&#039;ll find a Roubini or other, better yet, Denninger, to come out with some &quot;here&#039;s why the world is ending post&quot;. It&#039;s tiring after a while. Just look at the facts, earnings and economic reports - they speak for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rootless: The economic recovery does indeed justify the market rally.</p>
<p>Rikky: I&#8217;ve backed up my posts with facts for weeks. Doesn&#8217;t matter here. The Failure Caucus is in full swing here and no matter what facts I post, they&#8217;ll find a Roubini or other, better yet, Denninger, to come out with some &#8220;here&#8217;s why the world is ending post&#8221;. It&#8217;s tiring after a while. Just look at the facts, earnings and economic reports &#8211; they speak for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: rootless_cosmopolitan</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/goldman-sachs-%e2%80%9ca-bunch-of-clever-thugs%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-226171</link>
		<dc:creator>rootless_cosmopolitan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry Wanger,

&quot;I am so sick of the “market isn’t the economy” line that many here throw out because they heard Roubini or some other doomer repeat ad nauseam. It’s a direct reflection of the mood of the economy.&quot;

So you are saying, that the stock market rally proves that there is an economic recovery. And since there is an economic recovery, it justifies the stock market rally, doesn&#039;t it?

rc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Wanger,</p>
<p>&#8220;I am so sick of the “market isn’t the economy” line that many here throw out because they heard Roubini or some other doomer repeat ad nauseam. It’s a direct reflection of the mood of the economy.&#8221;</p>
<p>So you are saying, that the stock market rally proves that there is an economic recovery. And since there is an economic recovery, it justifies the stock market rally, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>rc</p>
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		<title>By: Rikky</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/goldman-sachs-%e2%80%9ca-bunch-of-clever-thugs%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-226158</link>
		<dc:creator>Rikky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wagner you never have any facts to back up your opinions.  if they&#039;re just opinions that&#039;s fine but please don&#039;t paint it as something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wagner you never have any facts to back up your opinions.  if they&#8217;re just opinions that&#8217;s fine but please don&#8217;t paint it as something else.</p>
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		<title>By: rootless_cosmopolitan</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/goldman-sachs-%e2%80%9ca-bunch-of-clever-thugs%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-226156</link>
		<dc:creator>rootless_cosmopolitan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry Wanger,

&quot;Obviously if the economy is getting stronger, which it irrefutably is, then the market is going to reflect that. We’re still undervalued.&quot;

Based on what metric is the market &quot;undervalued&quot;? Care to explain? Care to provide some data to back up this claim? Probably not.

rc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Wanger,</p>
<p>&#8220;Obviously if the economy is getting stronger, which it irrefutably is, then the market is going to reflect that. We’re still undervalued.&#8221;</p>
<p>Based on what metric is the market &#8220;undervalued&#8221;? Care to explain? Care to provide some data to back up this claim? Probably not.</p>
<p>rc</p>
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