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		<title>By: PithyDog</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/the-madoff-halloween-mask/comment-page-1/#comment-231268</link>
		<dc:creator>PithyDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw
-real episode in case you think I made it up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw<br />
-real episode in case you think I made it up</p>
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		<title>By: PithyDog</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/the-madoff-halloween-mask/comment-page-1/#comment-231265</link>
		<dc:creator>PithyDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>madman

&quot;CHAANGE, CHANNGE! Can you spare some change, please?&quot; :))

-South Park homeless/obama  parody.
(intentional sm. o)</description>
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<p>&#8220;CHAANGE, CHANNGE! Can you spare some change, please?&#8221; :))</p>
<p>-South Park homeless/obama  parody.<br />
(intentional sm. o)</p>
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		<title>By: madman130</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/the-madoff-halloween-mask/comment-page-1/#comment-231258</link>
		<dc:creator>madman130</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or better yet,

Obama promised a change and that&#039;s what I got, a few change in my pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or better yet,</p>
<p>Obama promised a change and that&#8217;s what I got, a few change in my pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: madman130</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/the-madoff-halloween-mask/comment-page-1/#comment-231256</link>
		<dc:creator>madman130</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The thing is these crooks have reached in my wallet and bank account AND everyone elses and stole from us. &lt;/i&gt;

With Omaba&#039;s change all I got left is an empty wallet and few change in my pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The thing is these crooks have reached in my wallet and bank account AND everyone elses and stole from us. </i></p>
<p>With Omaba&#8217;s change all I got left is an empty wallet and few change in my pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: PithyDog</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/the-madoff-halloween-mask/comment-page-1/#comment-231237</link>
		<dc:creator>PithyDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Gentlemen for the valuable insights.
Here&#039;s what I know:
I have more than 40 yrs. left on the planet. I cannot think of anything more important than saving liberty.
&quot;Live Free or die&quot;
are literal words.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gentlemen for the valuable insights.<br />
Here&#8217;s what I know:<br />
I have more than 40 yrs. left on the planet. I cannot think of anything more important than saving liberty.<br />
&#8220;Live Free or die&#8221;<br />
are literal words.<br />
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/10/the-madoff-halloween-mask/comment-page-1/#comment-231233</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HTCMSI, 

w/this: &quot;It doesn’t win you a lot of friends and often you are alone in the room to be ridiculed.&quot;

see: “Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.”

The first half of this quotation is a misquotation from Thoreau&#039;s Walden: 

“The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation. From the desperate city you go into the desperate country, and have to console yourself with the bravery of minks and muskrats. A stereotyped but unconscious despair is concealed even under what are called the games and amusements of mankind. There is no play in them, for this comes after work. But it is a characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things.”

Second half of this quotation is misattributed to Thoreau and may be a misquotation or misremembering of Oliver Wendell Holmes&#039; (1809-1894) &quot;The Voiceless&quot;: 

Alas for those that never sing,
But die with all their music in them.
http://walden.org/Institute/thoreau/writings/Misquotations/MostMen.htm

LSS: most of those peep, that you describe, would never be &#039;your friends&#039;, and, usually, try to attack you to quell their own, self-obvious, deficiencies..
~~
re: The FedRes..that Cock croweth still, make with an update when the Soup&#039;s on..

though, with this: &quot;The victory seems Pyrrhic to me though.&quot;, We, each, tally our own Accounts, though, to me, if we could accomplish that which Jefferson, and Jackson, managed, I&#039;d think it valuable, at least, for the Future that would be, more, our own..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HTCMSI, </p>
<p>w/this: &#8220;It doesn’t win you a lot of friends and often you are alone in the room to be ridiculed.&#8221;</p>
<p>see: “Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.”</p>
<p>The first half of this quotation is a misquotation from Thoreau&#8217;s Walden: </p>
<p>“The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation. From the desperate city you go into the desperate country, and have to console yourself with the bravery of minks and muskrats. A stereotyped but unconscious despair is concealed even under what are called the games and amusements of mankind. There is no play in them, for this comes after work. But it is a characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things.”</p>
<p>Second half of this quotation is misattributed to Thoreau and may be a misquotation or misremembering of Oliver Wendell Holmes&#8217; (1809-1894) &#8220;The Voiceless&#8221;: </p>
<p>Alas for those that never sing,<br />
But die with all their music in them.<br />
<a href="http://walden.org/Institute/thoreau/writings/Misquotations/MostMen.htm" rel="nofollow">http://walden.org/Institute/thoreau/writings/Misquotations/MostMen.htm</a></p>
<p>LSS: most of those peep, that you describe, would never be &#8216;your friends&#8217;, and, usually, try to attack you to quell their own, self-obvious, deficiencies..<br />
~~<br />
re: The FedRes..that Cock croweth still, make with an update when the Soup&#8217;s on..</p>
<p>though, with this: &#8220;The victory seems Pyrrhic to me though.&#8221;, We, each, tally our own Accounts, though, to me, if we could accomplish that which Jefferson, and Jackson, managed, I&#8217;d think it valuable, at least, for the Future that would be, more, our own..</p>
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		<title>By: How the Common Man Sees It</title>
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		<dc:creator>How the Common Man Sees It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We choose to support, or not, those activities, around us, that fuel, said, inertia, no?&lt;/i&gt;

That is true. Though there is more talking than doing these days. I must admit, I believe in eternity so hope does spring eternal....and I am also a romantic fool :)

....on Quixote! (I think  I&#039;ll name my mythical horse Quixote) :)

I must admit, we have almost slain the Fed (or at least opened up a serious flesh wound). That took a LOT of heavy lifting though. I&#039;ve been pounding at that door personally for close to 15 years on and off the &#039;net. The victory seems Pyrrhic to me though. 

Of course, that is a 100 year old dragon so it should be larger and more ingrained in the heart of the people than normal. I guess we shouldn&#039;t expect the battle to be easy

&lt;i&gt;Sometimes, being Contra is Positive, yes? &lt;/i&gt;

Sometimes positive &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; expensive. It doesn&#039;t win you a lot of friends and often you are alone in the room to be ridiculed. It builds some tremendous callouses. I&#039;m still trying to figure out if it is worth the cost. Maybe at the end of my journey it will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We choose to support, or not, those activities, around us, that fuel, said, inertia, no?</i></p>
<p>That is true. Though there is more talking than doing these days. I must admit, I believe in eternity so hope does spring eternal&#8230;.and I am also a romantic fool :)</p>
<p>&#8230;.on Quixote! (I think  I&#8217;ll name my mythical horse Quixote) :)</p>
<p>I must admit, we have almost slain the Fed (or at least opened up a serious flesh wound). That took a LOT of heavy lifting though. I&#8217;ve been pounding at that door personally for close to 15 years on and off the &#8216;net. The victory seems Pyrrhic to me though. </p>
<p>Of course, that is a 100 year old dragon so it should be larger and more ingrained in the heart of the people than normal. I guess we shouldn&#8217;t expect the battle to be easy</p>
<p><i>Sometimes, being Contra is Positive, yes? </i></p>
<p>Sometimes positive <i>always</i> expensive. It doesn&#8217;t win you a lot of friends and often you are alone in the room to be ridiculed. It builds some tremendous callouses. I&#8217;m still trying to figure out if it is worth the cost. Maybe at the end of my journey it will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HTCMSI, 

no doubt that one&#039;s attempt to be Atlas will turn him into Sisyphus..

this: &quot;We can only help with crowd inertia. We can’t create it..&quot;, though, I wonder about.

We choose to support, or not, those activities, around us, that fuel, said, inertia, no?

Sometimes, being Contra is Positive, yes? 

And, simply, those that are following this: &quot;people blowing each others brains out (literally) in the name of cultural ‘freedom’&quot;-path, would do well to ask &#039;which Man plotted this course?&#039;..being co-opted is not a pre-requisite for, and has nothing to do with, cooperation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HTCMSI, </p>
<p>no doubt that one&#8217;s attempt to be Atlas will turn him into Sisyphus..</p>
<p>this: &#8220;We can only help with crowd inertia. We can’t create it..&#8221;, though, I wonder about.</p>
<p>We choose to support, or not, those activities, around us, that fuel, said, inertia, no?</p>
<p>Sometimes, being Contra is Positive, yes? </p>
<p>And, simply, those that are following this: &#8220;people blowing each others brains out (literally) in the name of cultural ‘freedom’&#8221;-path, would do well to ask &#8216;which Man plotted this course?&#8217;..being co-opted is not a pre-requisite for, and has nothing to do with, cooperation.</p>
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		<title>By: How the Common Man Sees It</title>
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		<dc:creator>How the Common Man Sees It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MEH,

I have lived long enough to learn that one person can&#039;t be Atlas and do all the heavy lifting. When I was younger I had that type of mentality and I see that a lot in the frustrated ranting of many on the net today.

Unless the crowd wants to change things, it probably won&#039;t happen. 

Yes, we can be &#039;weak catalysts&#039; for change (which I consider myself to be) but to stand in front of the crowd or to try to get them moving is near impossible unless you are in a position of power. We can only help with crowd inertia. We can&#039;t create it (unless we become a star on you tube or something :) )

Understand that I am coming from Christian roots since I was a teenager a couple decades ago. I have made the effort to stand against a culture that has slowly turned away from what I believe in and until I adopted my current &#039;attitude&#039; I found it quite frustrating and heartbreaking.

Now I have found contentment but it still breaks my heart to see people blowing each others brains out (literally) in the name of cultural &#039;freedom&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MEH,</p>
<p>I have lived long enough to learn that one person can&#8217;t be Atlas and do all the heavy lifting. When I was younger I had that type of mentality and I see that a lot in the frustrated ranting of many on the net today.</p>
<p>Unless the crowd wants to change things, it probably won&#8217;t happen. </p>
<p>Yes, we can be &#8216;weak catalysts&#8217; for change (which I consider myself to be) but to stand in front of the crowd or to try to get them moving is near impossible unless you are in a position of power. We can only help with crowd inertia. We can&#8217;t create it (unless we become a star on you tube or something :) )</p>
<p>Understand that I am coming from Christian roots since I was a teenager a couple decades ago. I have made the effort to stand against a culture that has slowly turned away from what I believe in and until I adopted my current &#8216;attitude&#8217; I found it quite frustrating and heartbreaking.</p>
<p>Now I have found contentment but it still breaks my heart to see people blowing each others brains out (literally) in the name of cultural &#8216;freedom&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HTCMSI, 

even this: &quot;...and look on with sadness..&quot; needs to be checked.  a rueful acknowledgement, which, it well may be, is one thing, but, letting it grow to &#039;sadness&#039;, still, consumes one.

this: &quot;When I learned to never worry about what I couldn’t control was a great day in my life.&quot; is a great insight, though, the idea that we have little influence should, to me anyways, be questioned.

don&#039;t you ever wonder why &#039;Trends&#039; change? how &#039;new&#039; ones, start?

maybe this note http://www.worldtrans.org/pos/monkey.html from the Zoological-sphere provides some insight..
or, possibly, this http://www.vcu.edu/engweb/transcendentalism/authors/emerson/essays/oversoul.html from our wonderings in the Philosophy-sphere will show us that We are not as isolated as we may Imagine.

and, differently, maybe we should learn something from the Tortoise --&quot;He only makes Progress when he sticks his neck out..&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HTCMSI, </p>
<p>even this: &#8220;&#8230;and look on with sadness..&#8221; needs to be checked.  a rueful acknowledgement, which, it well may be, is one thing, but, letting it grow to &#8216;sadness&#8217;, still, consumes one.</p>
<p>this: &#8220;When I learned to never worry about what I couldn’t control was a great day in my life.&#8221; is a great insight, though, the idea that we have little influence should, to me anyways, be questioned.</p>
<p>don&#8217;t you ever wonder why &#8216;Trends&#8217; change? how &#8216;new&#8217; ones, start?</p>
<p>maybe this note <a href="http://www.worldtrans.org/pos/monkey.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldtrans.org/pos/monkey.html</a> from the Zoological-sphere provides some insight..<br />
or, possibly, this <a href="http://www.vcu.edu/engweb/transcendentalism/authors/emerson/essays/oversoul.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.vcu.edu/engweb/transcendentalism/authors/emerson/essays/oversoul.html</a> from our wonderings in the Philosophy-sphere will show us that We are not as isolated as we may Imagine.</p>
<p>and, differently, maybe we should learn something from the Tortoise &#8211;&#8221;He only makes Progress when he sticks his neck out..&#8221;</p>
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