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	<title>Comments on: Special Inspector General: NY Fed Screwed Up AIG Bailout</title>
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		<title>By: Market Talk &#187; Blog Archive &#187; AIG Will Haunt Prospects For Second Stimulus</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/audit-ny-fed-screwed-up-aig-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-235601</link>
		<dc:creator>Market Talk &#187; Blog Archive &#187; AIG Will Haunt Prospects For Second Stimulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] simply embarrassing and pathetic,&#8221; Barry Ritholtz writes at The Big [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] simply embarrassing and pathetic,&#8221; Barry Ritholtz writes at The Big [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rickambrose</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/audit-ny-fed-screwed-up-aig-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-235354</link>
		<dc:creator>rickambrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This news to someone? Mr.  &quot;Nipper&quot; Geitner heard &quot; the sound of his master&#039;s voice&quot; - and it was Lloyd Blankfein saying &quot; I want to be fully repaid!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This news to someone? Mr.  &#8220;Nipper&#8221; Geitner heard &#8221; the sound of his master&#8217;s voice&#8221; &#8211; and it was Lloyd Blankfein saying &#8221; I want to be fully repaid!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Fed Busting - The Opinionator Blog - NYTimes.com</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/audit-ny-fed-screwed-up-aig-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-235287</link>
		<dc:creator>Fed Busting - The Opinionator Blog - NYTimes.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;No surprise here,&#8221; writes Barry Ritholtz at Big Picture. &#8220;The Federal Reserve Bank of New York,&#8221; he writes, engaged in &#8220;a desperate headlong rush&#8221; to rescue A.I.G. &#8220;Despite holding all of the cards, cash and power, they still managed to manuver themselves into a corner with &#8216;little negotiating room.&#8217; &#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;No surprise here,&#8221; writes Barry Ritholtz at Big Picture. &#8220;The Federal Reserve Bank of New York,&#8221; he writes, engaged in &#8220;a desperate headlong rush&#8221; to rescue A.I.G. &#8220;Despite holding all of the cards, cash and power, they still managed to manuver themselves into a corner with &#8216;little negotiating room.&#8217; &#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fed Busting - The Opinionator Blog - NYTimes.com</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/audit-ny-fed-screwed-up-aig-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-235288</link>
		<dc:creator>Fed Busting - The Opinionator Blog - NYTimes.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;No surprise here,&#8221; writes Barry Ritholtz at Big Picture. &#8220;The Federal Reserve Bank of New York,&#8221; he writes, engaged in &#8220;a desperate headlong rush&#8221; to rescue A.I.G. &#8220;Despite holding all of the cards, cash and power, they still managed to manuver themselves into a corner with &#8216;little negotiating room.&#8217; &#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;No surprise here,&#8221; writes Barry Ritholtz at Big Picture. &#8220;The Federal Reserve Bank of New York,&#8221; he writes, engaged in &#8220;a desperate headlong rush&#8221; to rescue A.I.G. &#8220;Despite holding all of the cards, cash and power, they still managed to manuver themselves into a corner with &#8216;little negotiating room.&#8217; &#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: FrancoisT</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/audit-ny-fed-screwed-up-aig-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-235191</link>
		<dc:creator>FrancoisT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But the report said the “refusal” of the Federal Reserve and New York Fed “to use their considerable leverage,” in negotiations with the trading partners&quot;

&quot;Considerable leverage?&quot;  What leverage?

The Fed had already proved to the entire world that AIG wouldn&#039;t be permitted to fail. So, what kind of &quot;considerable leverage&quot; was available to the Fed?

Interesting and thought provoking analysis of the whole saga here:
http://economicsofcontempt.blogspot.com/2009/10/janet-tavakoli-all-bark-no-bite.html
http://economicsofcontempt.blogspot.com/2009/11/geithner-vindicated-in-tarp-watchdog.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But the report said the “refusal” of the Federal Reserve and New York Fed “to use their considerable leverage,” in negotiations with the trading partners&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Considerable leverage?&#8221;  What leverage?</p>
<p>The Fed had already proved to the entire world that AIG wouldn&#8217;t be permitted to fail. So, what kind of &#8220;considerable leverage&#8221; was available to the Fed?</p>
<p>Interesting and thought provoking analysis of the whole saga here:<br />
<a href="http://economicsofcontempt.blogspot.com/2009/10/janet-tavakoli-all-bark-no-bite.html" rel="nofollow">http://economicsofcontempt.blogspot.com/2009/10/janet-tavakoli-all-bark-no-bite.html</a><br />
<a href="http://economicsofcontempt.blogspot.com/2009/11/geithner-vindicated-in-tarp-watchdog.html" rel="nofollow">http://economicsofcontempt.blogspot.com/2009/11/geithner-vindicated-in-tarp-watchdog.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tuesday links: outcome vs. process Abnormal Returns</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/audit-ny-fed-screwed-up-aig-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-235184</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuesday links: outcome vs. process Abnormal Returns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fed got played in the AIG bailout.  (Alea Blog, Big Picture, WSJ, 24/7 Wall St., Dealbreaker also Megan [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fed got played in the AIG bailout.  (Alea Blog, Big Picture, WSJ, 24/7 Wall St., Dealbreaker also Megan [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blurtman</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/audit-ny-fed-screwed-up-aig-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-235145</link>
		<dc:creator>Blurtman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction:

Similarly Bloomberg reported on the AIG bonuses of which Geithner claimed he was unaware. It got to be so ludicrous that Geithner had to recalibrate his lies in front of Congress and claim that he first learned of the bonuses when staff members showed him the Bloomberg story months after it was released.

The gov is populated by fraudsters. Obama is no different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction:</p>
<p>Similarly Bloomberg reported on the AIG bonuses of which Geithner claimed he was unaware. It got to be so ludicrous that Geithner had to recalibrate his lies in front of Congress and claim that he first learned of the bonuses when staff members showed him the Bloomberg story months after it was released.</p>
<p>The gov is populated by fraudsters. Obama is no different.</p>
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		<title>By: bsneath</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/audit-ny-fed-screwed-up-aig-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-235121</link>
		<dc:creator>bsneath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The TBTF banks need to restrict this year&#039;s employee bonuses to stock options not redeemable for 3 or 4 years.  The $140 billion in cash saved should be used either to cover undisclosed losses or to expand credit and grow the economy.  All of the TBTF banks need to agree (or be required) to use similar stock option approaches to lessen employee defections.  They need to do this for the good of the Country and for the goodwill of their industry.



My reasons.

Cash bonuses at this point in the fragile recovery of our economy are not wise.  They are too risky for the banks and too risky for the economy.  Preserving this capital reduces any future need to raise capital.  Capital that would be far more costly if it had to be raised out of necessity at a time of weakness.    

Stock options would demonstrate that the bankers are in the game for the long haul along with the rest of us.  This would show America that the investment banks are part of the team, that they are working to make the economy stronger, that they are not just the greedy, selfish (fill in the blank&#039;ers) that they have been portrayed as by the media.

Banks should volunteer to do this, but if they cannot, will not or need political cover, then the Federal Treasury should mandate it.  If Hank Paulson could force a shotgun wedding between Bank of American and Merrill, surely Tim Geithner can get these banks to agree to similar stock option bonus terms.  

Perhaps a better analogy: If Hank Paulson could get these same banks to agree to accept TARP money so as to not single out those in greatest need, then Tim Geithner can get them to agree to the same rules on stock option based bonuses so as not to single out those at greatest risk of future taxpayer bailouts.  Geithner can argue that retaining this cash is necessary to accelerate the repayment of TARP funds and reduce the federal deficit and that requiring everyone to take the same approach is necessary for employee stability.

This is the minimum the banks should agree to do given the billions of dollars of taxpayer subsidies they all have received in one form or another.   Crap at $140 billion in stock option awards, they can even create a large new market trading in future employee stock option awards. (sarcasm)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The TBTF banks need to restrict this year&#8217;s employee bonuses to stock options not redeemable for 3 or 4 years.  The $140 billion in cash saved should be used either to cover undisclosed losses or to expand credit and grow the economy.  All of the TBTF banks need to agree (or be required) to use similar stock option approaches to lessen employee defections.  They need to do this for the good of the Country and for the goodwill of their industry.</p>
<p>My reasons.</p>
<p>Cash bonuses at this point in the fragile recovery of our economy are not wise.  They are too risky for the banks and too risky for the economy.  Preserving this capital reduces any future need to raise capital.  Capital that would be far more costly if it had to be raised out of necessity at a time of weakness.    </p>
<p>Stock options would demonstrate that the bankers are in the game for the long haul along with the rest of us.  This would show America that the investment banks are part of the team, that they are working to make the economy stronger, that they are not just the greedy, selfish (fill in the blank&#8217;ers) that they have been portrayed as by the media.</p>
<p>Banks should volunteer to do this, but if they cannot, will not or need political cover, then the Federal Treasury should mandate it.  If Hank Paulson could force a shotgun wedding between Bank of American and Merrill, surely Tim Geithner can get these banks to agree to similar stock option bonus terms.  </p>
<p>Perhaps a better analogy: If Hank Paulson could get these same banks to agree to accept TARP money so as to not single out those in greatest need, then Tim Geithner can get them to agree to the same rules on stock option based bonuses so as not to single out those at greatest risk of future taxpayer bailouts.  Geithner can argue that retaining this cash is necessary to accelerate the repayment of TARP funds and reduce the federal deficit and that requiring everyone to take the same approach is necessary for employee stability.</p>
<p>This is the minimum the banks should agree to do given the billions of dollars of taxpayer subsidies they all have received in one form or another.   Crap at $140 billion in stock option awards, they can even create a large new market trading in future employee stock option awards. (sarcasm)</p>
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		<title>By: Blurtman</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/audit-ny-fed-screwed-up-aig-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-235117</link>
		<dc:creator>Blurtman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bsneath,
The AIG counterparties bailout story surface in September of last year (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=aTzTYtlNHSG8&amp;refer=home).

The story then disappeared and then became big news earlier this year.

Similarly Bloomberg reported on the AIG bailouts of which Geithner claimed he was unaware.  It got to be so ludicrous that Geithner had to recalibrate his lies in front of Congress and claim that he first learned of the bonuses when staff members showed him the Bloomberg story months after it was released.

The gov is populated by fraudsters.  Obama is no different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bsneath,<br />
The AIG counterparties bailout story surface in September of last year (<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&#038;sid=aTzTYtlNHSG8&#038;refer=home" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&#038;sid=aTzTYtlNHSG8&#038;refer=home</a>).</p>
<p>The story then disappeared and then became big news earlier this year.</p>
<p>Similarly Bloomberg reported on the AIG bailouts of which Geithner claimed he was unaware.  It got to be so ludicrous that Geithner had to recalibrate his lies in front of Congress and claim that he first learned of the bonuses when staff members showed him the Bloomberg story months after it was released.</p>
<p>The gov is populated by fraudsters.  Obama is no different.</p>
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		<title>By: riley</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/audit-ny-fed-screwed-up-aig-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-235115</link>
		<dc:creator>riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geithner’s first rule of career advancement. The bigger the screw up, the bigger your next job will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geithner’s first rule of career advancement. The bigger the screw up, the bigger your next job will be.</p>
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