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	<title>Comments on: Damn Annoying: Traveling the US by Air</title>
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		<title>By: jse17</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/damn-annoying-traveling-the-us-by-air/comment-page-1/#comment-234021</link>
		<dc:creator>jse17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the context of travel jargon, let me offer the following.  When one arrives home after a difficult and extended journey, go for it immediately if not sooner.  Never forget that the train wears out long before the tunnel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the context of travel jargon, let me offer the following.  When one arrives home after a difficult and extended journey, go for it immediately if not sooner.  Never forget that the train wears out long before the tunnel!</p>
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		<title>By: kaleberg</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/damn-annoying-traveling-the-us-by-air/comment-page-1/#comment-233995</link>
		<dc:creator>kaleberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually airfares are extremely cheap. The price for flying from New York City to Los Angeles has been about $300 if you shop around, since the 1930s. (That&#039;s nineteen-thirties, not a typo.) Of course, in the 1930s you flew on a roomy prop plane and stopped every five hundred miles or so to fuel up. Now you get crammed into a 29&quot; aisle but you can fly cross country non-stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually airfares are extremely cheap. The price for flying from New York City to Los Angeles has been about $300 if you shop around, since the 1930s. (That&#8217;s nineteen-thirties, not a typo.) Of course, in the 1930s you flew on a roomy prop plane and stopped every five hundred miles or so to fuel up. Now you get crammed into a 29&#8243; aisle but you can fly cross country non-stop.</p>
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		<title>By: bergsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>bergsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a sneaking suspicion that the airlines have actual departments whose sole job it is to sit around and figure out how to make passenger&#039;s lives more miserable.

For a while it seemed that United was boarding planes &lt;strong&gt;from the front to the back&lt;/strong&gt;.  The alleged explanation was that, this way there was some overhead space left for the forward-sitting passengers.  What this actually accomplished was to make boarding totally chaotic and miserable.

And the &quot;24-hours-to-the-dot&quot; ahead limit on printing out boarding passes.  Why?
And, it&#039;s 2009 and their crappy software can &lt;em&gt;still&lt;/em&gt; double books seats.
And they will happily move you from a delayed flight to a &lt;em&gt;canceled&lt;/em&gt; flight.
And now they charge for luggage, curbside check-in, snacks, meals, headphones, blankets, pillows, and for all I know, air (which isn&#039;t outside-circulated as much and thus there&#039;s way more chance of infection).
And they pull back from a gate with a known broken plane and count it as &quot;on time departure.&quot;
And their frequent flyer programs are more deceiving and &quot;full of small print/exception lies&quot; than even Congress.
And the &quot;entertainment systems&quot; are usually partially or completely broken and in any event have more commercials than content.
And if you dare to complain, they throw you off and claim you&#039;re a terrorist.
And the employees are even more miserable than the passengers if that&#039;s possible.  The pilots are so pissed off they fly right past the damn airport.
And First Class is now worse than &quot;cattle&quot; in the Airplane movies.
And ticket pricing and restrictions rival the best torture of the Inquisition.

And that&#039;s all on a &lt;strong&gt;good&lt;/strong&gt; day.

To misquote Harry Chapin, &quot;it&#039;s got to be the getting there not the going that&#039;s good.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a sneaking suspicion that the airlines have actual departments whose sole job it is to sit around and figure out how to make passenger&#8217;s lives more miserable.</p>
<p>For a while it seemed that United was boarding planes <strong>from the front to the back</strong>.  The alleged explanation was that, this way there was some overhead space left for the forward-sitting passengers.  What this actually accomplished was to make boarding totally chaotic and miserable.</p>
<p>And the &#8220;24-hours-to-the-dot&#8221; ahead limit on printing out boarding passes.  Why?<br />
And, it&#8217;s 2009 and their crappy software can <em>still</em> double books seats.<br />
And they will happily move you from a delayed flight to a <em>canceled</em> flight.<br />
And now they charge for luggage, curbside check-in, snacks, meals, headphones, blankets, pillows, and for all I know, air (which isn&#8217;t outside-circulated as much and thus there&#8217;s way more chance of infection).<br />
And they pull back from a gate with a known broken plane and count it as &#8220;on time departure.&#8221;<br />
And their frequent flyer programs are more deceiving and &#8220;full of small print/exception lies&#8221; than even Congress.<br />
And the &#8220;entertainment systems&#8221; are usually partially or completely broken and in any event have more commercials than content.<br />
And if you dare to complain, they throw you off and claim you&#8217;re a terrorist.<br />
And the employees are even more miserable than the passengers if that&#8217;s possible.  The pilots are so pissed off they fly right past the damn airport.<br />
And First Class is now worse than &#8220;cattle&#8221; in the Airplane movies.<br />
And ticket pricing and restrictions rival the best torture of the Inquisition.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s all on a <strong>good</strong> day.</p>
<p>To misquote Harry Chapin, &#8220;it&#8217;s got to be the getting there not the going that&#8217;s good.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rg2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>rg2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not surprised by your experience on Northeast Airlines. They&#039;re on my own &quot;no fly&quot; list. I just had too many consistently bad experiences with them. I pay more to avoid them when possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not surprised by your experience on Northeast Airlines. They&#8217;re on my own &#8220;no fly&#8221; list. I just had too many consistently bad experiences with them. I pay more to avoid them when possible.</p>
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		<title>By: ews</title>
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		<dc:creator>ews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Charles, most people ARE that lucky.  

I&#039;m not going to do the math, but I suspect 85% of the US population (excl. AK/HI) live within 50 miles of an airport serviced by SWA.  That you don&#039;t is irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Charles, most people ARE that lucky.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to do the math, but I suspect 85% of the US population (excl. AK/HI) live within 50 miles of an airport serviced by SWA.  That you don&#8217;t is irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why people don’t fly SWA exclusively is beyond me.  I’m lucky b/c in Chicago and we have an entire airport not named O’Hare dedicated to SWA&quot;

Because most people aren&#039;t that lucky.  I have never lived in a city that Southwest served within 50 miles of my home.

Generally I prefer Continental.  If you fly enough to get elite status, they are one of the smoothest operations around.  Virgin America is nice and has some great routes from SFO, although you&#039;re right about those entertainment systems crashing.  I never fly USAir or American, and United is just annoying with the surcharges for everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why people don’t fly SWA exclusively is beyond me.  I’m lucky b/c in Chicago and we have an entire airport not named O’Hare dedicated to SWA&#8221;</p>
<p>Because most people aren&#8217;t that lucky.  I have never lived in a city that Southwest served within 50 miles of my home.</p>
<p>Generally I prefer Continental.  If you fly enough to get elite status, they are one of the smoothest operations around.  Virgin America is nice and has some great routes from SFO, although you&#8217;re right about those entertainment systems crashing.  I never fly USAir or American, and United is just annoying with the surcharges for everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilgamesj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilgamesj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the USA should build some highspeed railroads: obama gets some jobs, its green! and generally more comfy than airlines. Get those shovels!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the USA should build some highspeed railroads: obama gets some jobs, its green! and generally more comfy than airlines. Get those shovels!</p>
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		<title>By: h00t22</title>
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		<dc:creator>h00t22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry, even with what you experienced, Continental is one of the best domestic airlines. Plus, you don&#039;t fly enough to make an accurate comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry, even with what you experienced, Continental is one of the best domestic airlines. Plus, you don&#8217;t fly enough to make an accurate comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: dniederman</title>
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		<dc:creator>dniederman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arg Barry that sounds awful. I used to fly a lot here are two tips that worked well for me:

#1 Amex Black Card, yes annual $400 fee is super steep but it gets you into airport lounges for American/Continental/Delta which, IMO, can earn you back the fee in a few visits, especially when the lounge has a shower.

#2 I once utilized an airport concierge for my wife and two kids when they were visiting nyc. The cost as I recall was only ~$100 and the service consisted of a polite, be-suited assistant who helped my wife with the kids/luggage, whisked them past security and into the airlines 1st class lounge (she held neither 1st class ticket or amex platinum). Probably saved her at least 3o minutes plus significant stress. If you want the name of this firm just shoot me a line. 

Love the blog.

-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arg Barry that sounds awful. I used to fly a lot here are two tips that worked well for me:</p>
<p>#1 Amex Black Card, yes annual $400 fee is super steep but it gets you into airport lounges for American/Continental/Delta which, IMO, can earn you back the fee in a few visits, especially when the lounge has a shower.</p>
<p>#2 I once utilized an airport concierge for my wife and two kids when they were visiting nyc. The cost as I recall was only ~$100 and the service consisted of a polite, be-suited assistant who helped my wife with the kids/luggage, whisked them past security and into the airlines 1st class lounge (she held neither 1st class ticket or amex platinum). Probably saved her at least 3o minutes plus significant stress. If you want the name of this firm just shoot me a line. </p>
<p>Love the blog.</p>
<p>-D</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Ritholtz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Ritholtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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