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		<title>By: Jojo</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/food-stamps-at-record-highs/comment-page-1/#comment-238198</link>
		<dc:creator>Jojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did this thread get hijacked into something about climate change?</description>
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		<title>By: Mark E Hoffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Winnie, 

try some of this: Yet More Stuff We Always Suspected But Its Nice To Have Proof
November 27, 2009, 11:42 pm 
Many of us have argued for years that much of the measured surface temperature increase has actually been from manual adjustments made for opaque and largely undisclosed reasons by a few guys back in their offices.


The US Historical Climate Network (USHCN) reports about a 0.6C temperature increase in the lower 48 states since about 1940.  There are two steps to reporting these historic temperature numbers.  First, actual measurements are taken.  Second, adjustments are made after the fact by scientists to the data.  Would you like to guess how much of the 0.6C temperature rise is from actual measured temperature increases and how much is due to adjustments of various levels of arbitrariness?  Here it is, for the period from 1940 to present in the US:

Actual Measured Temperature Increase: 0.1C 
Adjustments and Fudge Factors: 0.5C 
Total Reported Warming: 0.6C 

Yes, that is correct.  Nearly all the reported warming in the USHCN data base, which is used for nearly all global warming studies and models, is from human-added fudge factors, guesstimates, and corrections.

I know what you are thinking – this is some weird skeptic’s urban legend.  Well, actually it comes right from the NOAA web page which describes how they maintain the USHCN data set.  Below is the key chart from that site showing the sum of all the plug factors and corrections they add to the raw USHCN measurements:
...
http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2009/11/yet-more-stuff-we-always-suspected-but-its-nice-to-have-proof.html
~~
and for those that execute the pretense of &#039;Scientific Inquiry&#039;, this: &quot;...SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.

It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.

The UEA’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.

The data were gathered from weather stations around the world and then adjusted to take account of variables in the way they were collected. The revised figures were kept, but the originals — stored on paper and magnetic tape — were dumped to save space when the CRU moved to a new building...&quot;
doesn&#039;t, quite, seem to hold water (or, melt Glaciers, depending, of course, on which side your crumpet is (clotted) creamed..)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winnie, </p>
<p>try some of this: Yet More Stuff We Always Suspected But Its Nice To Have Proof<br />
November 27, 2009, 11:42 pm<br />
Many of us have argued for years that much of the measured surface temperature increase has actually been from manual adjustments made for opaque and largely undisclosed reasons by a few guys back in their offices.</p>
<p>The US Historical Climate Network (USHCN) reports about a 0.6C temperature increase in the lower 48 states since about 1940.  There are two steps to reporting these historic temperature numbers.  First, actual measurements are taken.  Second, adjustments are made after the fact by scientists to the data.  Would you like to guess how much of the 0.6C temperature rise is from actual measured temperature increases and how much is due to adjustments of various levels of arbitrariness?  Here it is, for the period from 1940 to present in the US:</p>
<p>Actual Measured Temperature Increase: 0.1C<br />
Adjustments and Fudge Factors: 0.5C<br />
Total Reported Warming: 0.6C </p>
<p>Yes, that is correct.  Nearly all the reported warming in the USHCN data base, which is used for nearly all global warming studies and models, is from human-added fudge factors, guesstimates, and corrections.</p>
<p>I know what you are thinking – this is some weird skeptic’s urban legend.  Well, actually it comes right from the NOAA web page which describes how they maintain the USHCN data set.  Below is the key chart from that site showing the sum of all the plug factors and corrections they add to the raw USHCN measurements:<br />
&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2009/11/yet-more-stuff-we-always-suspected-but-its-nice-to-have-proof.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2009/11/yet-more-stuff-we-always-suspected-but-its-nice-to-have-proof.html</a><br />
~~<br />
and for those that execute the pretense of &#8216;Scientific Inquiry&#8217;, this: &#8220;&#8230;SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.</p>
<p>It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.</p>
<p>The UEA’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.</p>
<p>The data were gathered from weather stations around the world and then adjusted to take account of variables in the way they were collected. The revised figures were kept, but the originals — stored on paper and magnetic tape — were dumped to save space when the CRU moved to a new building&#8230;&#8221;<br />
doesn&#8217;t, quite, seem to hold water (or, melt Glaciers, depending, of course, on which side your crumpet is (clotted) creamed..)<br />
<a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: How the Common Man Sees It</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/food-stamps-at-record-highs/comment-page-1/#comment-238105</link>
		<dc:creator>How the Common Man Sees It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;On what side of the ledger do food stamps fall?&lt;/i&gt;

Rereading I thought I&#039;d clarify. I meant what side of the ledger would the need for them fall, not the providing of them.

And here&#039;s a thought. This is in no way meant to be condescending. This actually might change the lives (and thus the destinies) of many families. If they were to hand out coupons for free nutritional counseling and free financial counseling along with the stamps, it might help a few people out of their hole. 

I must assume that at least some of them are there because they are poorly (pardon the pun) taught. Even if that only helps 10% of the people in that line that could do wonders for a lot of American families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>On what side of the ledger do food stamps fall?</i></p>
<p>Rereading I thought I&#8217;d clarify. I meant what side of the ledger would the need for them fall, not the providing of them.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s a thought. This is in no way meant to be condescending. This actually might change the lives (and thus the destinies) of many families. If they were to hand out coupons for free nutritional counseling and free financial counseling along with the stamps, it might help a few people out of their hole. </p>
<p>I must assume that at least some of them are there because they are poorly (pardon the pun) taught. Even if that only helps 10% of the people in that line that could do wonders for a lot of American families.</p>
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		<title>By: Climategate</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/food-stamps-at-record-highs/comment-page-1/#comment-238104</link>
		<dc:creator>Climategate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen Schneider (leading advocate of the global warming theory, in interview for Discover magazine, Oct 1989)
&quot;We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.&quot;

Al Gore: 
&quot;Nobody is interested in solutions if they don&#039;t think there&#039;s a problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous (global warming) is, as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are...&quot;
http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2006/05/09/roberts/

Bill Clinton:
&quot;In the United States...we have to first convince the American People and the Congress that the climate problem is real.&quot;
http://www.apfn.org/THEWINDS/1997/08/global_warming.html

I rest my case.

Good Luck and Good Night!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Schneider (leading advocate of the global warming theory, in interview for Discover magazine, Oct 1989)<br />
&#8220;We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.&#8221;</p>
<p>Al Gore:<br />
&#8220;Nobody is interested in solutions if they don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous (global warming) is, as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are&#8230;&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2006/05/09/roberts/" rel="nofollow">http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2006/05/09/roberts/</a></p>
<p>Bill Clinton:<br />
&#8220;In the United States&#8230;we have to first convince the American People and the Congress that the climate problem is real.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.apfn.org/THEWINDS/1997/08/global_warming.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.apfn.org/THEWINDS/1997/08/global_warming.html</a></p>
<p>I rest my case.</p>
<p>Good Luck and Good Night!</p>
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		<title>By: Climategate</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/food-stamps-at-record-highs/comment-page-1/#comment-238102</link>
		<dc:creator>Climategate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ all

Instead of attacking me, all you planet loving environmentalists should be relieved (unless you have to gain millions and billions of taxpayer money from the carbon hype like GE and Al Gore) that not only is our planet safe, but that we need not spend trillions of dollars and forfeit our most basic freedoms in pursuit of remedies for the bogus man-caused climate change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ all</p>
<p>Instead of attacking me, all you planet loving environmentalists should be relieved (unless you have to gain millions and billions of taxpayer money from the carbon hype like GE and Al Gore) that not only is our planet safe, but that we need not spend trillions of dollars and forfeit our most basic freedoms in pursuit of remedies for the bogus man-caused climate change.</p>
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		<title>By: How the Common Man Sees It</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/food-stamps-at-record-highs/comment-page-1/#comment-238101</link>
		<dc:creator>How the Common Man Sees It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weren&#039;t you guys arguing yesterday about what benefits/evil the fed has brought to America. On what side of the ledger do food stamps fall? :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weren&#8217;t you guys arguing yesterday about what benefits/evil the fed has brought to America. On what side of the ledger do food stamps fall? :(</p>
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		<title>By: How the Common Man Sees It</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/food-stamps-at-record-highs/comment-page-1/#comment-238100</link>
		<dc:creator>How the Common Man Sees It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Food Stamps:

Who would of thought that in this day and age of the internet that mailing food would be still so popular

And it is not like you can&#039;t use the internet to mail food. Look at all the spam that is sent across the bandwidth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Food Stamps:</p>
<p>Who would of thought that in this day and age of the internet that mailing food would be still so popular</p>
<p>And it is not like you can&#8217;t use the internet to mail food. Look at all the spam that is sent across the bandwidth</p>
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		<title>By: Climategate</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/food-stamps-at-record-highs/comment-page-1/#comment-238099</link>
		<dc:creator>Climategate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Adult Franklin411

 The Roman and medieval warmings are 100% established historical facts.

As well as, of the 186 billion tons of CO2 that enter earth&#039;s atmosphere each year from all sources, only 6 billion tons are from human activity. Approximately 90 billion tons come from biologic activity in earth&#039;s oceans and another 90 billion tons from such sources as volcanoes and decaying land plants.

At 368 parts per million CO2 is a minor constituent of earth&#039;s atmosphere-- less than 4/100ths of 1% of all gases present. Compared to former geologic times, earth&#039;s current atmosphere is CO2- impoverished.

 If we are in a global warming crisis today, even the most aggressive and costly proposals for limiting industrial carbon dioxide emissions would have a negligible effect on global climate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Adult Franklin411</p>
<p> The Roman and medieval warmings are 100% established historical facts.</p>
<p>As well as, of the 186 billion tons of CO2 that enter earth&#8217;s atmosphere each year from all sources, only 6 billion tons are from human activity. Approximately 90 billion tons come from biologic activity in earth&#8217;s oceans and another 90 billion tons from such sources as volcanoes and decaying land plants.</p>
<p>At 368 parts per million CO2 is a minor constituent of earth&#8217;s atmosphere&#8211; less than 4/100ths of 1% of all gases present. Compared to former geologic times, earth&#8217;s current atmosphere is CO2- impoverished.</p>
<p> If we are in a global warming crisis today, even the most aggressive and costly proposals for limiting industrial carbon dioxide emissions would have a negligible effect on global climate!</p>
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		<title>By: FrancoisT</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrancoisT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Climategate,

Here is a FACT for you: in a previous post, you accused the CRU to &quot;destroy&quot; and &quot;hide&quot; original data.

Well, my friend, you suck real bad at thrutiness.

Yo wanna some raw data, Bro&#039;?
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/wheres-the-data/

That is where da data is. Make sure to read the posts, since there is a treasure trove of raw data in tons of different links.

Climate destabilization is real and we have a role in it.

Get used to it, and do not obstruct the unstoppable march toward green energies and sustainability. I plan to become filthy rich investing in this history-changing paradigm and deniers like you are a tremendous annoyance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climategate,</p>
<p>Here is a FACT for you: in a previous post, you accused the CRU to &#8220;destroy&#8221; and &#8220;hide&#8221; original data.</p>
<p>Well, my friend, you suck real bad at thrutiness.</p>
<p>Yo wanna some raw data, Bro&#8217;?<br />
<a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/wheres-the-data/" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/wheres-the-data/</a></p>
<p>That is where da data is. Make sure to read the posts, since there is a treasure trove of raw data in tons of different links.</p>
<p>Climate destabilization is real and we have a role in it.</p>
<p>Get used to it, and do not obstruct the unstoppable march toward green energies and sustainability. I plan to become filthy rich investing in this history-changing paradigm and deniers like you are a tremendous annoyance.</p>
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		<title>By: Adult Franklin411</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/food-stamps-at-record-highs/comment-page-1/#comment-238097</link>
		<dc:creator>Adult Franklin411</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Life thrived during warm times and life suffered in cool times. Great civilisations collapsed when it was cool.

It was so hot during the 600-year-long ‘Roman warming’ that grapes were grown as far north as Hadrian’s Wall. Sea levels did not rise and polar ice did not vanish. Some Alpine glaciers disappeared, only to appear later. The cold Dark Ages followed: starvation, rampant disease and massive depopulation occurred.

A 400-year warm period followed. The Vikings grew barley and wheat, and raised cattle and sheep in parts of Greenland that are now uninhabitable. During this ‘medieval warming’, there was so much excess wealth generated from generations of reliable harvests that the great monasteries, cathedrals and universities were built. &lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;re fucking kidding me right? &#039;Cuz the thermometer was invented in the 16th/17th century. Before that, you get monk diary entries like this:

June 20, 1125 - Hot today

Dec 5, 1206 - Cold today. Brother Theodore is sick. Saw a black bird carrying a baby rabbit. Evil omen

Schmuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Life thrived during warm times and life suffered in cool times. Great civilisations collapsed when it was cool.</p>
<p>It was so hot during the 600-year-long ‘Roman warming’ that grapes were grown as far north as Hadrian’s Wall. Sea levels did not rise and polar ice did not vanish. Some Alpine glaciers disappeared, only to appear later. The cold Dark Ages followed: starvation, rampant disease and massive depopulation occurred.</p>
<p>A 400-year warm period followed. The Vikings grew barley and wheat, and raised cattle and sheep in parts of Greenland that are now uninhabitable. During this ‘medieval warming’, there was so much excess wealth generated from generations of reliable harvests that the great monasteries, cathedrals and universities were built. </i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re fucking kidding me right? &#8216;Cuz the thermometer was invented in the 16th/17th century. Before that, you get monk diary entries like this:</p>
<p>June 20, 1125 &#8211; Hot today</p>
<p>Dec 5, 1206 &#8211; Cold today. Brother Theodore is sick. Saw a black bird carrying a baby rabbit. Evil omen</p>
<p>Schmuck.</p>
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