Comments on: Pinot Noirs for Thanksgiving http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/pinot-noirs-for-thanksgiving/ Macro Perspective on the Capital Markets, Economy, Geopolitics, Technology, and Digital Media Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:05:49 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: beaufou http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/pinot-noirs-for-thanksgiving/comment-page-1/#comment-238253 beaufou Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:41:01 +0000 http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/?p=43762#comment-238253 Next time, try some Chateauneuf du pape, a great way to entertain your friends with great wine at a reasonable price. I agree with not talking about politics, unless you're in Europe, although I can't help myself. Next time, try some Chateauneuf du pape, a great way to entertain your friends with great wine at a reasonable price.
I agree with not talking about politics, unless you’re in Europe, although I can’t help myself.

]]> By: arthur.i http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/pinot-noirs-for-thanksgiving/comment-page-1/#comment-236443 arthur.i Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:13:30 +0000 http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/?p=43762#comment-236443 I spend most of my time in France and Spain and here we often discuss the merits of spending more than two Euros for a bottle of wine. I often buy wine between one and two Euros a bottle and it is very good. Why is wine so expensive in the U.S? Really it never ceases to amaze me. When I am back in America (East Coast) I am in shock on how expensive the basics of life are. A ordinary Chardonnay for 11 dollars when a similar bottle of a dry white from the province of Cadiz, Spain sells for 80 cents. A full bodied red for 2o dollars when a similar ordinary Bordeaux sells at the local French supermarket for three. Property taxes here are about 1/1000 of the value of the property per year. You do pay a tax when you sell, up to 18% on any profit. If you are not speculating and just owning then this is a great system. Insurance costs: about 1/5 for medical, about 1/6 for house about 1/2 for car. I pay more in property tax (2.2 %) and homeowner insurance for my house in the U.S. then I spend for an entire year in Spain and France for all my insurance (car, house, medical), all the utilities (electric, trash, water, gas), gas for the car, and ALL THE FOOD AND WINE FOR TWO PEOPLE. For An Entire Year. Why is the basics of life here in France and even more so here in Spain so much more afordable then in the U.S? What happened to the standard of living in America? Europeans are living the American dream. Where did all the wealth in America go? I spend most of my time in France and Spain and here we often discuss the merits of spending more than two Euros for a bottle of wine. I often buy wine between one and two Euros a bottle and it is very good.

Why is wine so expensive in the U.S? Really it never ceases to amaze me. When I am back in America (East Coast) I am in shock on how expensive the basics of life are. A ordinary Chardonnay for 11 dollars when a similar bottle of a dry white from the province of Cadiz, Spain sells for 80 cents. A full bodied red for 2o dollars when a similar ordinary Bordeaux sells at the local French supermarket for three.

Property taxes here are about 1/1000 of the value of the property per year. You do pay a tax when you sell, up to 18% on any profit. If you are not speculating and just owning then this is a great system.

Insurance costs: about 1/5 for medical, about 1/6 for house about 1/2 for car.

I pay more in property tax (2.2 %) and homeowner insurance for my house in the U.S. then I spend for an entire year in Spain and France for all my insurance (car, house, medical), all the utilities (electric, trash, water, gas), gas for the car, and ALL THE FOOD AND WINE FOR TWO PEOPLE. For An Entire Year.

Why is the basics of life here in France and even more so here in Spain so much more afordable then in the U.S? What happened to the standard of living in America? Europeans are living the American dream. Where did all the wealth in America go?

]]> By: Forty2 http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/pinot-noirs-for-thanksgiving/comment-page-1/#comment-236351 Forty2 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:55:58 +0000 http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/?p=43762#comment-236351 May I suggest a fabulous white from far northern Italy? 2008 Südtirol/Alto Adige DOC Goldmuskateller "Castel Turmhof". Actually cellared in Switzerland via a tunnel under the border. Maybe a nice Valpolicella for the main course, followed by Amarone or Recioto. There's options besides Pinot Noir and bloody Beaujolais :-) May I suggest a fabulous white from far northern Italy? 2008 Südtirol/Alto Adige DOC Goldmuskateller “Castel Turmhof”. Actually cellared in Switzerland via a tunnel under the border. Maybe a nice Valpolicella for the main course, followed by Amarone or Recioto.

There’s options besides Pinot Noir and bloody Beaujolais :-)

]]> By: jimzellmer http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11/pinot-noirs-for-thanksgiving/comment-page-1/#comment-236329 jimzellmer Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:50:47 +0000 http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/?p=43762#comment-236329 Friends make excellent pinot here: http://www.zmetro.com/photos/2006/10/leftcoast/gallery/ http://www.leftcoastcellars.com/ Happy Thanksgiving! Jim Friends make excellent pinot here:

http://www.zmetro.com/photos/2006/10/leftcoast/gallery/

http://www.leftcoastcellars.com/

Happy Thanksgiving!

Jim

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