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		<title>By: Former Citi CEO John S. Reed: Mea Culpa - Gold Speculator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Former Citi CEO John S. Reed: Mea Culpa - Gold Speculator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: torrie-amos</title>
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		<dc:creator>torrie-amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree with chartsandcoffee............someone somewhere must realize the fed and govt are leveraged to the hilt and could not take another hit..........we can probably make it thru the mess, over time, if they eliminate all the land mines

i did not read Reed&#039;s article, it&#039;s always the same BS, merges aquistions etc. etc., the guys at the top might not like things or agree with them, yet, when gazongo bonuses are there they all agree, cross-sellling the biggest bunch of BS that looks perfect on paper and is a disaster in the real world</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree with chartsandcoffee&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;someone somewhere must realize the fed and govt are leveraged to the hilt and could not take another hit&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.we can probably make it thru the mess, over time, if they eliminate all the land mines</p>
<p>i did not read Reed&#8217;s article, it&#8217;s always the same BS, merges aquistions etc. etc., the guys at the top might not like things or agree with them, yet, when gazongo bonuses are there they all agree, cross-sellling the biggest bunch of BS that looks perfect on paper and is a disaster in the real world</p>
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		<title>By: ToNYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ToNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some_guy_in_a_cube Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

Weill has buildings named for him at some of the nations most elite universities. Reeds pisses and moans from the back bench, politely ignored.

Winners smile. Losers say deal.

...and the King of the Jews (INRI) got crucified by the Romans! Time wounds all heels.
Reed is a technocrat and his science didn&#039;t fail him where a false sense of worth has blinded his soft science co-pirates. He can enjoy his stairway to heaven and beat the top-deckers on the Titanic while he spends the rest of his life earning immense satisfaction by figuring out how he can best give back the full measure of his part of the grand theft.

Le secret des grandes fortunes sans cause apparente est un crime oubli , parce qu&#039; il a ete proprement fait.&quot; 
----from  Le Père Goriot (1835), Part II ---Honoré de Balzac
The secret of a great success for which you are at a loss to account is a crime that has never been found out, because it was properly executed. 

Oops! this crime is outed! 
Oh, Lord of the Gold Sacks, great and powerful Oz,  you surely noticed your bond buddymachermaven Jon Corzine got a taste of what&#039;s in the wind. 
God&#039;s work indeed, but it will feel like the Harpies tearing at what&#039;s left of that soul once issued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some_guy_in_a_cube Says:<br />
November 8th, 2009 at 9:41 pm</p>
<p>Weill has buildings named for him at some of the nations most elite universities. Reeds pisses and moans from the back bench, politely ignored.</p>
<p>Winners smile. Losers say deal.</p>
<p>&#8230;and the King of the Jews (INRI) got crucified by the Romans! Time wounds all heels.<br />
Reed is a technocrat and his science didn&#8217;t fail him where a false sense of worth has blinded his soft science co-pirates. He can enjoy his stairway to heaven and beat the top-deckers on the Titanic while he spends the rest of his life earning immense satisfaction by figuring out how he can best give back the full measure of his part of the grand theft.</p>
<p>Le secret des grandes fortunes sans cause apparente est un crime oubli , parce qu&#8217; il a ete proprement fait.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;-from  Le Père Goriot (1835), Part II &#8212;Honoré de Balzac<br />
The secret of a great success for which you are at a loss to account is a crime that has never been found out, because it was properly executed. </p>
<p>Oops! this crime is outed!<br />
Oh, Lord of the Gold Sacks, great and powerful Oz,  you surely noticed your bond buddymachermaven Jon Corzine got a taste of what&#8217;s in the wind.<br />
God&#8217;s work indeed, but it will feel like the Harpies tearing at what&#8217;s left of that soul once issued.</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
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		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone else listened to this? Very good I thought.

http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2009/10/calomiris_on_th.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone else listened to this? Very good I thought.</p>
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		<title>By: scharfy</title>
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		<dc:creator>scharfy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At its peak, financial services and the like represented a disproportionate amount of GDP, and GDP growth in the last 15 years.  We may argue the numbers, (15%-30%) depending on what you include, but t think no one can dispute that we have morphed from an industrial might, to  a nation overly loaded with debt servicers and hedgefunds on the whole. 

So did America as a society get greedier?  Why have the captains of industry (no saints either) been replaced in the swank neighborhoods by high end money shufflers?

To me, just a normal response in demand -  to an increase in supply at a given price.

As long as Fed continues its criminally insane strategy of force-feeding cheap credit down the throats of America (to stimulate it), there will be no shortage of large firms to step up and distribute the debt to America, scraping some crumbs (big ones) for themselves along the way.

Citi, and all the rest are a natural response the the orgy of dollars vomited upon us by Greenspan and Bernanke.   All the regulatory stuff is incidental.  As the money is printed - there will firms ready and willing to do the dirty.

Thats how i sees it.

And thanks for the apology. It really is sweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At its peak, financial services and the like represented a disproportionate amount of GDP, and GDP growth in the last 15 years.  We may argue the numbers, (15%-30%) depending on what you include, but t think no one can dispute that we have morphed from an industrial might, to  a nation overly loaded with debt servicers and hedgefunds on the whole. </p>
<p>So did America as a society get greedier?  Why have the captains of industry (no saints either) been replaced in the swank neighborhoods by high end money shufflers?</p>
<p>To me, just a normal response in demand &#8211;  to an increase in supply at a given price.</p>
<p>As long as Fed continues its criminally insane strategy of force-feeding cheap credit down the throats of America (to stimulate it), there will be no shortage of large firms to step up and distribute the debt to America, scraping some crumbs (big ones) for themselves along the way.</p>
<p>Citi, and all the rest are a natural response the the orgy of dollars vomited upon us by Greenspan and Bernanke.   All the regulatory stuff is incidental.  As the money is printed &#8211; there will firms ready and willing to do the dirty.</p>
<p>Thats how i sees it.</p>
<p>And thanks for the apology. It really is sweet.</p>
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		<title>By: some_guy_in_a_cube</title>
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		<dc:creator>some_guy_in_a_cube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weill has buildings named for him at some of the nations most elite universities. Reeds pisses and moans from the back bench, politely ignored.

Winners smile. Losers say deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weill has buildings named for him at some of the nations most elite universities. Reeds pisses and moans from the back bench, politely ignored.</p>
<p>Winners smile. Losers say deal.</p>
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		<title>By: ezduzit</title>
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		<dc:creator>ezduzit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>

that fort hood shooter also said he was doing god&#039;s work.  maybe these guys are related.

more on topic,  we don&#039;t have enough legislators,  with courage,  to overturn glass steagall act repeal.  that repeal killed the usa financial market.  two contaminated groups,  banks and brokers,  were allowed to merge and procreate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that fort hood shooter also said he was doing god&#8217;s work.  maybe these guys are related.</p>
<p>more on topic,  we don&#8217;t have enough legislators,  with courage,  to overturn glass steagall act repeal.  that repeal killed the usa financial market.  two contaminated groups,  banks and brokers,  were allowed to merge and procreate.</p>
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		<title>By: chartsandcoffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>chartsandcoffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two predictions.   

1. The too big to fail banks will be broken up.

2. Goldman is smart, but they got a little too cute. I think all the anti-Goldman rhetoric is snowballing. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two predictions.   </p>
<p>1. The too big to fail banks will be broken up.</p>
<p>2. Goldman is smart, but they got a little too cute. I think all the anti-Goldman rhetoric is snowballing.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;These guys have character and integrity. Lesser souls would continue to make up excuses.&lt;/i&gt;

Bull. Greater souls would have listened to the many well-reasoned arguments against repealing Glass-Steagall and not advocated it out of sociopathic arrogance and greed for empire. If he&#039;s really remorseful, let him put up his massive personal loot to compensate some of the losses. His &#039;apology&#039; is a drop in the ocean against the damage this parasitic opportunist and his ilk have done to the world. 

When people make &#039;mistakes&#039; that put millions of dollars in their pocket, expect such &#039;mistakes&#039; to be made again and again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>These guys have character and integrity. Lesser souls would continue to make up excuses.</i></p>
<p>Bull. Greater souls would have listened to the many well-reasoned arguments against repealing Glass-Steagall and not advocated it out of sociopathic arrogance and greed for empire. If he&#8217;s really remorseful, let him put up his massive personal loot to compensate some of the losses. His &#8216;apology&#8217; is a drop in the ocean against the damage this parasitic opportunist and his ilk have done to the world. </p>
<p>When people make &#8216;mistakes&#8217; that put millions of dollars in their pocket, expect such &#8216;mistakes&#8217; to be made again and again.</p>
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		<title>By: farmera1</title>
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		<dc:creator>farmera1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, no doesn&#039;t work.   These people were just greedy, arrogant, social paths.  These people knew what they were doing.  Ever wonder where the yacths come from along the lake front in Chicago.  Or how about the huge houses, or the vacation homes.  

I&#039;ve long believed  that pathological deregulation was a cover for stealing.  Turns out to be true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, no doesn&#8217;t work.   These people were just greedy, arrogant, social paths.  These people knew what they were doing.  Ever wonder where the yacths come from along the lake front in Chicago.  Or how about the huge houses, or the vacation homes.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve long believed  that pathological deregulation was a cover for stealing.  Turns out to be true.</p>
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