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		<title>By: VA Voter</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/12/a-difference-in-sentiment/comment-page-2/#comment-238715</link>
		<dc:creator>VA Voter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is also horsesh!t because there appear to be no internals, i.e. did they over/under poll certain demographics?  There are any number of tricks that some political polsters use to skew the results.  Unless and until the poll is run by Rasmussen, or someone of similar stature, the results are suspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is also horsesh!t because there appear to be no internals, i.e. did they over/under poll certain demographics?  There are any number of tricks that some political polsters use to skew the results.  Unless and until the poll is run by Rasmussen, or someone of similar stature, the results are suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: hue</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/12/a-difference-in-sentiment/comment-page-1/#comment-238702</link>
		<dc:creator>hue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bergsten, guess you&#039;re at &quot;you know, but don&#039;t know you know.&quot;

it sounds like a rummy poem

The Unknown

As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don&#039;t know
We don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bergsten, guess you&#8217;re at &#8220;you know, but don&#8217;t know you know.&#8221;</p>
<p>it sounds like a rummy poem</p>
<p>The Unknown</p>
<p>As we know,<br />
There are known knowns.<br />
There are things we know we know.<br />
We also know<br />
There are known unknowns.<br />
That is to say<br />
We know there are some things<br />
We do not know.<br />
But there are also unknown unknowns,<br />
The ones we don&#8217;t know<br />
We don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: bergsten</title>
		<link>http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/12/a-difference-in-sentiment/comment-page-1/#comment-238698</link>
		<dc:creator>bergsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@hue -- the way I heard it (and don&#039;t go shootin&#039; the messenger) was:  &quot;If you&#039;re twenty and you aren&#039;t a liberal, you don&#039;t have a heart.  If you&#039;re fifty and you aren&#039;t a conservative, you don&#039;t have a brain.&quot;

Attribution unknown.

And, since we&#039;re past the point of anybody reading this, let me throw this one in too at no extra charge:

&quot;When you&#039;re 20, you don&#039;t know, but think you do.  When you&#039;re 30, you don&#039;t know, but know you don&#039;t know.  When you&#039;re 40, you know, but don&#039;t know you know.  When you&#039;re 50, you know, and you know you know, &lt;i&gt;but it&#039;s too late to do anything about it.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Attribution also unknown.

Guess where I&#039;m &quot;at&quot;?

@WS, Darkness -- Yeah I also now know what &quot;canicule&quot; means.  What I &lt;i&gt;still&lt;/i&gt; don&#039;t know is what in blazes it has to do with consumer confidence.  Were I in charge and some (clearly) overly high-priced polling consultants handed me a report containing &quot;canicule&quot; (for WHATEVER reason), when I stopped laughing hysterically, I would chase them out of my office with an ax, then stop the check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@hue &#8212; the way I heard it (and don&#8217;t go shootin&#8217; the messenger) was:  &#8220;If you&#8217;re twenty and you aren&#8217;t a liberal, you don&#8217;t have a heart.  If you&#8217;re fifty and you aren&#8217;t a conservative, you don&#8217;t have a brain.&#8221;</p>
<p>Attribution unknown.</p>
<p>And, since we&#8217;re past the point of anybody reading this, let me throw this one in too at no extra charge:</p>
<p>&#8220;When you&#8217;re 20, you don&#8217;t know, but think you do.  When you&#8217;re 30, you don&#8217;t know, but know you don&#8217;t know.  When you&#8217;re 40, you know, but don&#8217;t know you know.  When you&#8217;re 50, you know, and you know you know, <i>but it&#8217;s too late to do anything about it.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Attribution also unknown.</p>
<p>Guess where I&#8217;m &#8220;at&#8221;?</p>
<p>@WS, Darkness &#8212; Yeah I also now know what &#8220;canicule&#8221; means.  What I <i>still</i> don&#8217;t know is what in blazes it has to do with consumer confidence.  Were I in charge and some (clearly) overly high-priced polling consultants handed me a report containing &#8220;canicule&#8221; (for WHATEVER reason), when I stopped laughing hysterically, I would chase them out of my office with an ax, then stop the check.</p>
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		<title>By: miutbc</title>
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		<dc:creator>miutbc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gee, I wonder why there was such a huge drop in confidence just before 04? Was something going on just before the end of the year? I also don&#039;t understand why there isn&#039;t some mention of how republicans are flocking to  states run, historically, by super bright democrats, like Michigan, New York, NJ, CA etc with their keynesian  1.5 multipliers from states like UT, ID, AZ, TX and FL.  I&#039;m mean, as an example of how much better government is at spending money than individuals, check out Michigan&#039;s &quot;cool cities&quot; experiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gee, I wonder why there was such a huge drop in confidence just before 04? Was something going on just before the end of the year? I also don&#8217;t understand why there isn&#8217;t some mention of how republicans are flocking to  states run, historically, by super bright democrats, like Michigan, New York, NJ, CA etc with their keynesian  1.5 multipliers from states like UT, ID, AZ, TX and FL.  I&#8217;m mean, as an example of how much better government is at spending money than individuals, check out Michigan&#8217;s &#8220;cool cities&#8221; experiment.</p>
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		<title>By: hue</title>
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		<dc:creator>hue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I could talk a lot about this, but grow weary of discussing it because I get the feeling that no amount of knowledge I impart will amount to anything.&quot;

the more we know, the less we find it useful or practical. Okie, you might enjoy this from Kevin DePew:
&quot;There&#039;s a truism about information that has long withstood the test of time and fortunes large and small, from the racetrack to the futures pit, and it is this: The more information you gather under conditions of uncertainty, the worse your decision making will be. It&#039;s unorthodox, counter-intuitive, and difficult to accept, which is what makes it a truism in the first place. Otherwise, it would be a piece of information, and we all know how much that is worth. Ho ho.&quot;  http://bit.ly/6rmgWm

people start out as democrats,  with liberal ideals when they&#039;re young. then they make money and become republicans.  it&#039;s a generalization, but i&#039;ve seen it personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I could talk a lot about this, but grow weary of discussing it because I get the feeling that no amount of knowledge I impart will amount to anything.&#8221;</p>
<p>the more we know, the less we find it useful or practical. Okie, you might enjoy this from Kevin DePew:<br />
&#8220;There&#8217;s a truism about information that has long withstood the test of time and fortunes large and small, from the racetrack to the futures pit, and it is this: The more information you gather under conditions of uncertainty, the worse your decision making will be. It&#8217;s unorthodox, counter-intuitive, and difficult to accept, which is what makes it a truism in the first place. Otherwise, it would be a piece of information, and we all know how much that is worth. Ho ho.&#8221;  <a href="http://bit.ly/6rmgWm" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/6rmgWm</a></p>
<p>people start out as democrats,  with liberal ideals when they&#8217;re young. then they make money and become republicans.  it&#8217;s a generalization, but i&#8217;ve seen it personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Schott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes Schott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...dog days of summer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;dog days of summer</p>
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		<title>By: Darkness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darkness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Does that sound like total horseshit or what? Feel smarter now? “Canicule”?&lt;/i&gt;

My dictionary has: Canicular: of or pertaining to a dog, or Sirius, the dog star. LOL. You know, a survey of dog happiness would probably tell us a lot, pets see everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Does that sound like total horseshit or what? Feel smarter now? “Canicule”?</i></p>
<p>My dictionary has: Canicular: of or pertaining to a dog, or Sirius, the dog star. LOL. You know, a survey of dog happiness would probably tell us a lot, pets see everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Darkness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darkness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My personal sample by political affiliation during the 00s was the democrats thought the economy was an increasingly unsustainable mirage and the republicans (many to this day, and from all ends of the income spectrum from &quot;just imagining obama as president gave us a recession in 2007 and that means it&#039;s too expensive to bus to branson this year&quot; all the way up to &quot;letting lehman fail crashed the markets&quot;) believe the credit bubble was real and sustainable. But the party of the leadership is definitely meaningful. Both parties believed in the dot com run up equally, with the dems always more skeptical... (i.e. more conservative, by the textbook definition of conservative).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My personal sample by political affiliation during the 00s was the democrats thought the economy was an increasingly unsustainable mirage and the republicans (many to this day, and from all ends of the income spectrum from &#8220;just imagining obama as president gave us a recession in 2007 and that means it&#8217;s too expensive to bus to branson this year&#8221; all the way up to &#8220;letting lehman fail crashed the markets&#8221;) believe the credit bubble was real and sustainable. But the party of the leadership is definitely meaningful. Both parties believed in the dot com run up equally, with the dems always more skeptical&#8230; (i.e. more conservative, by the textbook definition of conservative).</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Schott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes Schott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Okie,  

i ride road bike (bicycles)

on the weekend we do pretty long rides at pace - 60 miles

on sunday&#039;s we get aggressive drivers that are dressed up in their sunday best, honking and cursing at us for slowing them down on the way to...wherever they have to be by 9 am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Okie,  </p>
<p>i ride road bike (bicycles)</p>
<p>on the weekend we do pretty long rides at pace &#8211; 60 miles</p>
<p>on sunday&#8217;s we get aggressive drivers that are dressed up in their sunday best, honking and cursing at us for slowing them down on the way to&#8230;wherever they have to be by 9 am.</p>
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		<title>By: OkieLawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>OkieLawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Thor:

I live in the most religiously active state in the country.  I can tell you that while people who are active in church may tell you they are &quot;happy,&quot; (ignorance is bliss!) religious leaders often try to placate their &quot;flock&quot; by telling them that justice is for the &quot;afterlife.&quot;  I could talk a lot about this, but grow weary of discussing it because I get the feeling that no amount of knowledge I impart will amount to anything.

I grew up in a fundamentalist church; but have long since rejected fundamentalism.  However, I can tell you that it is all around me.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://satellitesky.blogspot.com/2006/10/orphans-of-god.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I guess that I am an &lt;i&gt;Orphan of God&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Thor:</p>
<p>I live in the most religiously active state in the country.  I can tell you that while people who are active in church may tell you they are &#8220;happy,&#8221; (ignorance is bliss!) religious leaders often try to placate their &#8220;flock&#8221; by telling them that justice is for the &#8220;afterlife.&#8221;  I could talk a lot about this, but grow weary of discussing it because I get the feeling that no amount of knowledge I impart will amount to anything.</p>
<p>I grew up in a fundamentalist church; but have long since rejected fundamentalism.  However, I can tell you that it is all around me.  <a href="http://satellitesky.blogspot.com/2006/10/orphans-of-god.html" rel="nofollow">I guess that I am an <i>Orphan of God</i>.</a></p>
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