NFP: -85,000 (So Much For that Upside)

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By Barry Ritholtz - January 8th, 2010, 8:33AM

Employment Situation Summary:

Establishment Survey Data: Nonfarm payroll employment edged down (-85,000) in December, and the unemployment rate was unchanged at 10.0 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment fell in construction, manufacturing, and wholesale trade, while temporary help services and health care added jobs.

Household Survey Data: In December, both the number of unemployed persons, at 15.3 million, and the unemployment rate, at 10.0 percent, were unchanged. At the start of the recession in December 2007, the number of unemployed persons was 7.7 million, and the unemployment rate was 5.0 percent. (See table A-1.)

Those making forecasts of +100k 200k 300k plus must be surprised and disappointed.

The details:

• November 2009 Payrolls were revised to a gain of 4,000 from a loss of 11,000; October was revised downwards by 15k;

• U3 Unemployment rate held steady at 10%;

• U6 Unemployment ticked up 0.1% to 17.3%;

• Q4 2009 employment losses averaged 69,000 per month; this compares with Q1 job losses of 691,000 a month;

• Temp workers increased 46,500 — the 5th straight monthly gain;

• Total lost jobs lost since the recession began in December 2007  is 7.2 million.

• This is the worst recession in terms of employment and jobs lost, both in actual numbers, and as a percentage of all jobs, of any cycle since World War II was ending in 1944-45.

Gainers and Losers:

Factory payrolls down 27,000
Auto manufacturing and parts industries down 4,900
Construction jobs fell 53,000;
Retail payrolls decreased by 10,200
Service industries (banks, insurance companies, restaurants) subtracted 4,000 workers

Health care employment increased by 22,000.
Financial firms increased payrolls by 4,000

Comments

Please use the comments to demonstrate your own ignorance, unfamiliarity with empirical data, ability to repeat discredited memes, and lack of respect for scientific knowledge. Also, be sure to create straw men and argue against things I have neither said nor even implied. Any irrelevancies you can mention will also be appreciated. Lastly, kindly forgo all civility in your discourse . . . you are, after all, anonymous.

35 Responses to “NFP: -85,000 (So Much For that Upside)”

  1. Scott F Says:

    Watching Malpass on CNBC — what a clueless economists — with advice from this hack, its no wonder Bear Stearns collapsed

  2. KidDynamite Says:

    of course, the beauty of 15.3 million unemployed persons being unchanged is that we don’t count them anymore when they drop out of the labor force! 661k dropped out of the labor force, and 589k less people were employed

  3. ifish Says:

    The three /four month trend is up.

    Certainly better than YOY.

    If you had seen +100k, etc…, markets would have reacted NEG with the fear of Fed tightening rates.

    Markets will absorb this data – lagging indicator – and adjust accordingly.

    Meanwhile back at the ranch, the Fed will see no reason to hike rates for another quarter or so bringing more sideline cash into equities.

    Those institutions with cash have no choice but to enter into equities.

    There will be a time to exit this market – it’s not now.

    It’s been “The Most Hated Rally” since March. No?

    Kindest regards,
    Seymour (Ifish) Vonce DeKrauntz

    P.S.
    I’m looking for Art Cash In’s email – anybody have it?

  4. Steve Barry Says:

    The “upsiders” got some consolation…last month was revised to positive!!! But as BR stated, the headline is nothing more than noise…the unemployment rate is important…U6 ticked up I believe and as KD stated, 661K dropped out of the workforce (that is not noise). What will destroy the economy this year is debt issuance and rollovers, which will lead to higher rates, more foreclosures and defaults.

    As for CNBC, I loved this exchange:

    Carl Q: Why aren’t people returning to the workforce?

    Zandi: There are no jobs.

  5. Steve Barry Says:

    Further CNBC stupidity: They think the silver lining is that U3 stayed flat…but that only happened because 661,000 workers gave up.

  6. torrie-amos Says:

    I still stand by my 85 in oil ticks the top of the market. Also, fwiw, unemployment will probably not good next month also, gubment, state and local are handing out Pinky Tuscaderos, there tax receipts, which they missed for 09, are not projected to get better in 2010, thus, they are at the inflection point of having to do something, and they started evaluating positions in q3 and q4, Eli’s coming.

  7. JC in Va Says:

    Why can’t I find the birth/death adjustment number this month? Did they move it? How much does that influence the number?

  8. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    A continuation of GAAF (Generally Accepted Accounting Fraud) policies. Someday, it would be interesting to know the real numbers of un- and under-employed (or any goddamned thing else, for that matter). Someday, there’s gonna’ be a backlash.

  9. Steve Barry Says:

    Peter, in Macro Notes, puts B/D at +59K, same as last Dec.

    Since small biz probably got mauled (look at household survey), that +59 is likely really -100 or more…so that would make the headline about -250k, or some 400k jobs less than what is needed to meet people entering the workforce.

    HORRIBLE!

  10. Steve Barry Says:

    Is CNBC touting next month’s NFP release as the most important in years yet? I bet they won’t, given the massive benchmark revision to the downside coming. That may finally shake people into coherence.

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  12. Steve Barry Says:

    Erin Burnett: Fed printing money to buy Treasuries, isn’t that a Ponzi scheme?

    Good job Erin…hey if she realizes this, will the public soon figure it out, or will Erin just be sent to MSNBC?

  13. arboc50 Says:

    Wow, Robert Barbara taking shots at Bill Gross again. Gross is cool among it all while Barbara getting all in a tizzy again. Really attacking “New Normal” theme. You’d think Gross and Pimco had come up with an absolutley unfathomable theme the way some people attack it.

  14. Mannwich Says:

    A worse job market is actually GREAT for the money whores on Wall Street. Means more stimulus, QE, TARP, STRAP, HAMP, HARP, FART, SHART and other acronomym-laddled programs to keep the party going for our great whores in finance. Party on whores.

  15. franklin411 Says:

    Re: people dropping out of the labor force…my question is: who is dropping out?

    Is it illegal aliens? Is it high school dropouts who worked in residential construction? Is it people who worked at Countrywide and New Century Financial?

    Who expects the bubble jobs to come back? Could we even have sustainable growth if they did?

  16. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Funny, Manny.

    The cleanup of the aftermath of the FART and SHART programs is going to be a nightmare.

    All they really need is HEMP.

  17. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    franklin411 Says:

    who is dropping out?

    The middle class.

  18. ifish Says:

    Manny, my man, you’ve hit the nail excatly on its head!

    When will the naysayers begin to realize that the market is a forward looking mechanism tempered by people’s emotions…and not a lagging indicator?

    Party on!

    Seymour Vonce DeKrauntz, MF; PhF; OBF

  19. Mannwich Says:

    @ifish: “The market”, as you put it, doesn’t exist anymore. It hasn’t for decades now. This is a sham, my friend. We can either choose to play or not. I’m pretty much “dropping out”, thank you very much. Best of luck to you.

  20. camden Says:

    Table A, line 4: 843,000 left the civilian labor force. That number keeps going up. Annualize it and ~10M disappear.

  21. Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle Says:

    franklin411:
    They don’t count illegal aliens. How can you count jobs which technically don’t exist?

  22. franklin411 Says:

    @Marcus:
    Hogwash. The unemployment rate is lowest for college educated whites (aka the middle class).

  23. HarryWanger Says:

    Two things regarding employment:

    -At some point the whole, “hey, it’s great for the market cuz Fed can’t tighten” naivete will fall splat on its face. The Fed will have to tighten at some point whether employment is growing or not. What should be scary for those marketeers is the prospect of the Fed being forced to tighten while the work force is still shedding jobs.

    -Regard the “lagging indicator” bullshit, how long is it lagging? At some point the “lagging” is reality. That’s where we’re at now friends.

  24. yuan Says:

    college educated “whites” = the middle class

    this kind of elitism is exactly why progressives are abandoning the democratic party (see daily kos, fdl, or huffington post).

  25. JustinTheSkeptic Says:

    It is a fact that the the bond market leads the Fed all the time. So this talk about what the Fed is going to do is nonsense – they will follow what the bond market does.

  26. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    franklin411 Says:

    You have a narrow view of what constitutes the middle class. I shouldn’t have expected anything more.

    As for your demographic, they’re bleeding like everyone else (recent layoffs at Lockheed/Martin, Pfizer, and Sprint Nextel for example).

    Then, there’s this, from the BLS:

    Nine major industry sectors reported third quarter program highs in 2009 in
    terms of the number of extended mass layoff events in the private nonfarm
    sector–construction; wholesale trade; transportation and warehousing; pro-
    fessional and technical services; management of companies and enterprises; ad-
    ministrative and waste services; educational services; arts, entertainment,
    and recreation; and other services, except public administration.

    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/mslo.nr0.htm

  27. Marcus Aurelius Says:

    Did I mention:

    Balderdash!

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  29. Simon Says:

    The middle class are screwed. We are all Chinese now. But hey it’s not so bad we could all do with a change in attitude. We need to understand some Zen and Confucious principles. And learn to ride bikes. Think of the health savings right there.

  30. Frank Says:

    More incredible U.S. economic data today.

    November wholesale inventories rose a shocking 1.5%. October wholesale inventories were
    revised from +.3% to +.6%.

    With this new data and the just-reported factory inventory data overall inventories rose .4% in
    October and will have risen .6% in November if the still to be reported retail inventories show no
    change.

    Maybe part of this increase in inventories is due to a rise in prices. Maybe there are some flukey
    components to these inventory increases. But even if that is the case these inventory increases
    are so large that the odds are that real inventories rose in October and November combined.

    What about December? I discussed it yesterday. The non-manufacturing and manufacturing
    ISMs for December suggest a large rise in inventories, due in part to a surge in imports.

    So on balance the data now suggests that the economy went from huge inventory liquidation in
    Q3 at a $139 billion annual rate to outright positive inventory accumulation. Such a swing in
    inventories would contribute 4.5 percentage points to Q3 GDP growth or more.

    In earlier reports this week I argued 1) strength in the components of real final sales in Q4 is
    being greatly overstated due to statistical distortions and 2) viewed from the output side of the
    ledger Q4 GDP growth has probably been less than a 3% annual rate. These two theses plus the most recent inventory data suggests that real final sales growth was negative in Q4.

    Today’s terrible household employment data supports this conclusion. It points to a contraction in wage and salary income in the fourth quarter. How much of a contraction depends upon how much weight you give to the household survey of employment. I give considerable weight to the household survey of employment. I believe the payroll statistic is biased upward by an extremely faulty birth/death model contribution. This model contributed 59,000 jobs to the December payroll total before seasonal adjustments.

    The NFIB issued a report on small business employment conditions yesterday. They remain in
    deep recession territory.

  31. lalaland Says:

    @Yuan: elitism is saying white=upper class, not middle :)

  32. Donlast Says:

    “Its not all glum — Temp help is improving, and tends to be a good early indicator of more hiring to come…”

    Talk of clutching at straws! The whole tone of the report was poor and the total of people out of work, including those who have dropped out and given up, is steadily climbing towards 20 million; we are in a major debt deleveraging downturn (don’t grace it with the word recession) the like of which we have not seen since the time of the Great Depression, and Temp help is suppose to stay a “leading indicator” . Yes, it will lead, all the way through 2010 as employers prefer to take on people temporarily rather than permanently.

    If the Health Care bill becomes law you can spell that with a big “T”.

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