The Left Right Paradigm is Over: Its You vs. Corporations

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By Barry Ritholtz - September 27th, 2010, 9:30AM

Every generation or so, a major secular shift takes place that shakes up the existing paradigm. It happens in industry, finance, literature, sports, manufacturing, technology, entertainment, travel, communication, etc.

I would like to discuss the paradigm shift that is occurring in politics.

For a long time, American politics has been defined by a Left/Right dynamic. It was Liberals versus Conservatives on a variety of issues. Pro-Life versus Pro-Choice, Tax Cuts vs. More Spending, Pro-War vs Peaceniks, Environmental Protections vs. Economic Growth, Pro-Union vs. Union-Free, Gay Marriage vs. Family Values, School Choice vs. Public Schools, Regulation vs. Free Markets.

The new dynamic, however, has moved past the old Left Right paradigm. We now live in an era defined by increasing Corporate influence and authority over the individual. These two “interest groups” – I can barely suppress snorting derisively over that phrase – have been on a headlong collision course for decades, which came to a head with the financial collapse and bailouts. Where there is massive concentrations of wealth and influence, there will be abuse of power.  The Individual has been supplanted in the political process nearly entirely by corporate money, legislative influence, campaign contributions, even free speech rights.

This may not be a brilliant insight, but it is surely an overlooked one. It is now an Individual vs. Corporate debate – and the Humans are losing.

Consider:

• Many of the regulations that govern energy and banking sector were written by Corporations;

• The biggest influence on legislative votes is often Corporate Lobbying;

• Corporate ability to extend copyright far beyond what original protections amounts to a taking of public works for private corporate usage;

• PAC and campaign finance by Corporations has supplanted individual donations to elections;

• The individuals’ right to seek redress in court has been under attack for decades, limiting their options.

• DRM and content protection undercuts the individual’s ability to use purchased content as they see fit;

• Patent protections are continually weakened. Deep pocketed corporations can usurp inventions almost at will;

• The Supreme Court has ruled that Corporations have Free Speech rights equivalent to people; (So much for original intent!)

None of these are Democrat/Republican conflicts, but rather, are corporate vs. individual issues.

For those of you who are stuck in the old Left/Right debate, you are missing the bigger picture. Consider this about the Bailouts: It was a right-winger who bailed out all of the big banks, Fannie Mae, and AIG in the first place; then his left winger successor continued to pour more money into the fire pit.

What difference did the Left/Right dynamic make? Almost none whatsoever.

How about government spending? The past two presidents are regarded as representative of the Left Right paradigm – yet they each spent excessively, sponsored unfunded tax cuts, plowed money into military adventures and ran enormous deficits. Does Left Right really make a difference when it comes to deficits and fiscal responsibility? (Apparently not).

What does it mean when we can no longer distinguish between the actions of the left and the right? If that dynamic no longer accurately distinguishes what occurs, why are so many of our policy debates framed in Left/Right terms?

In many ways, American society is increasingly less married to this dynamic: Party Affiliation continues to fall, approval of Congress is at record lows, and voter participation hovers at very low rates.

There is some pushback already taking place against the concentration of corporate power: Mainstream corporate media has been increasingly replaced with user created content – YouTube and Blogs are increasingly important to news consumers (especially younger users). Independent voters are an increasingly larger share of the US electorate. And I suspect that much of the pushback against the Elizabeth Warren’s concept of a Financial Consumer Protection Agency plays directly into this Corporate vs. Individual fight.

But the battle lines between the two groups have barely been drawn. I expect this fight will define American politics over the next decade.

Keynes vs Hayek? Friedman vs Krugman? Those are the wrong intellectual debates. Its you vs. Tony Hayward, BP CEO, You vs. Lloyd Blankfein, Goldman Sachs CEO. And you are losing . . .

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This short commentary was conceived not to be an exhaustive research, but rather, to stimulate debate. There are many more examples and discussions we can have about this, and I hope readers do so in comments.

But my bottom line is this:  If you see the world in terms of Left & Right, you really aren’t seeing the world at all . . .

Comments

Please use the comments to demonstrate your own ignorance, unfamiliarity with empirical data, ability to repeat discredited memes, and lack of respect for scientific knowledge. Also, be sure to create straw men and argue against things I have neither said nor even implied. Any irrelevancies you can mention will also be appreciated. Lastly, kindly forgo all civility in your discourse . . . you are, after all, anonymous.

193 Responses to “The Left Right Paradigm is Over: Its You vs. Corporations”

  1. Hugh Says:

    An excellent post Barry. Too bad we (the people) seem to be losing this one.

  2. Richard R Says:

    Thanks, you’re completely right. This is today’s overriding issue but most people are shocked to hear mention of it. So, what do we do? Popular outrage has been co-opted by the corporations through the tea parties. The left pays lip service to the issue but continues with its old agenda. There are voices yelling about this but they are in the wilderness.

    Finally, it is a simple issue of freedom. How can you be free if you need to spend the next 20 years working for the corporations to pay your debts? How can you be free if you can’t start a business or move because you need health insurance and the corps have usurped all the laws in their favor? If they own the political system how do you change anything? Those whose support and involvement is needed work endless hours and spend the rest of their time trying to keep their families above water.

    The Democrats are as useless as the Republicans. The Libertarians have a great big blind spot for corporate power – with the help of corporate supported foundations. Why can’t the originalists lead the way in denying the person-hood of corporations?

    I don’t see any chance of reversing this without a major economic/civil crisis occurring leaving the corporations incapable of maintaining power. I sure hope I’m wrong.

  3. bmoseley Says:

    this is excellent and focused it more for me.
    remember IKE’s famous parting words: beware of the military industrial complex. did he ever have that right.

  4. Mannwich Says:

    Thanks you, BR, for reiterating what MANY of us have been saying for years now. Amen. Need to keep hammering these points though for people on the “left” and right” to get a clue. I’m guessing it’s going to take at least one more shot by both parties politically for enough people to wake up to this scam.

  5. JONATHAN MARTIN & KEACH HAGEY Says:

    Conflict of Interest

    And just wait until Glenn Beck leaps into the race. Fox News faces a dilemma as the 2012 presidential campaign—which traditionally starts right after midterm elections—nears: The network has four potential candidates on its payroll in Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, and Rick Santorum. That’s every major contender save Mitt Romney who’s not currently holding office. The politicians’ paid contributor deals have caused a rift within Fox News and frustrated competitors, because the candidates are contractually forbidden from appearing on another news channel. C-SPAN tried to interview Palin, but was forced to ask Fox’s permission, which was denied. Other TV news networks have had the same experience. Fox says that once the Republicans declare they’re running for office, they’ll have to sever their ties to the channel. But they’re likely to delay that announcement, as Fox offers an unparalleled platform to spout an unfiltered message to conservatives. (Palin has already visited early primary states.) Some Fox employees are uneasy with the arrangement, and they haven’t gotten instructions from higher-ups on how to deal with it. Reporters are “left in the lurch,” not knowing when the candidates will have to leave.

  6. jrltexas1 Says:

    “The first stage of fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power”

    -Benito Mussolini (1883-1945), Fascist Dictator of Italy

    We now use corporations to fight our wars, and dictate our foreign policy. We even have a corporation, the FED masquerading as our ‘central bank’. Barry, I think your a little late to the party if you believe that the left/right paradigm has even been more than an illusion for the huddled masses to cling to for security. Welcome to the new USA Inc.. Be a good corporate citizen now, or we will turn you over to HR….

  7. YY Says:

    Great post BR, many of us see that as well.

    The bad news is that this conflict could resolve itself in serious societal damage. The 19th conflicts between Labor and Capitalists is perhaps the closest parallel.

  8. sy Says:

    Agreed. Here’s the beginning of it: http://pay2play.tv/?p=304

  9. drewburn Says:

    Frightening, but true. And I thought the same about conservative “activist” judges: A corporation is the same thing as an individual in the Constitution???

  10. franklin411 Says:

    Not entirely new, Barry…There was a book called Beyond Left and Right: Insurgency and the Establishment, written by the unfortunately-named historian David A. Horowitz (he shares a name with the right wing nutjob!), published in 1997. He explains that the real conflict in American history since 1776 has not been between left and right, but between the so-called “average” Americans (however defined) and “elites–” generally, Eastern banks, political elites, intellectuals, radicals, etc… It’s a somewhat dated book, but nothing better explains Palinism in my view than Horowitz’s work.

  11. franklin411 Says:

    Ha! I forgot to include the key player in that list…big business and corporations!

  12. Apinak Says:

    Excellent post. This why I have always put reforming campaign finance at the top of the list of priorities. Until we get corporate money out of politics we can’t do anything else effectively. I would also put repealing corporate personhood near the top of the list. I have to say that the left-right debate is not meaningless, the Tea Party has been convinced that government is bad ans should be replaced by an unregulated ‘free’ market. In essence they have chosen to be on the side of corporations although I am sure very few of them realize it.

  13. JeffErp Says:

    I agree but I don’t think it ends with corporations. You also need to include other powerful lobbying groups like unions, Indian tribes (on the state level), etc.

  14. cpd Says:

    Exactly right. You have articulated the biggest problem very well. Any chance you can post this article on other websites? In particular, Huffington Post. That is a very good mainstream news website but a lot of people get locked in to the left/right debate which distracts from the real issue. Your article needs a wide distribution.

  15. Arequipa01 Says:

    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/09/floridas-kangaroo-foreclosure-courts-judges-denying-due-process-on-behalf-of-banks.html

    Defanging the Judiciary. Check.

    You must understand that you are not a citizen, you are a subject. And as a subject, ownership will be asserted over you, in all your dimensions, along every axis.

  16. AHodge Says:

    right
    though i am more like
    us vs finance
    others get conditional pass, till found out like BP?

  17. Apinak Says:

    I would add these to ypur list of corporate takeovers.

    Health insurance companies have inserted themselves as unneccessary middlemen so they can skim off a large portion of our healthcare spending.

    Military contractors have spread themselves into every congressional district so they can convince us to spend hundreds of billions a year in unproductive ways and on overpriced products.

    Wall Street has manipulated rules so they can capture 40% of corporate profits without producing anything.

    Corporates have cut their share of the tax burden and shifted it to the middle class.

    Corporations have sidestepped environmental and labor laws by freely moving to whichever country has the worst conditions and cheapest labor costs.

    You should also change the war to individuals vs. multinational corporations. The fact that corporations have no allegiance to specific countries which adds all sort of facets to the discussion.

  18. Trevor Says:

    BR wrote: If you see the world in terms of Left & Right, you really aren’t seeing the world at all . . .

    I suspect that another rising paradigm is religious vs. less or non- religious. It’s pretty ugly when seen from other Western countries.

    From whence the funding for religio-politicians comes is a debatable question. It might just be that funding, say, the Tea Parties, is but one tine of a fork. Businesses may be funding organised religions for the same reason they would be behind Tea Parties. But, what if it’s the other way around, and religions fund/support Tea Parties to the extent, ahem, legally allowed? It would be frightening to me to see even more delusion in government, but I see religious influence growing in much the same was as I’ve seen corporate influence growing. Could your corporations be looked at as merely other ideologies and/or wielding of power?

    For example, just imagine what would happen if a U.S. political candidate stated or was ‘revealed’ to have areligious tendencies; particularly in the middle of the country.

    Who funds the religious candidates? If it’s not the corporations, then you likely have another paradigm at play.

  19. Transor Z Says:

    A few corporate law reforms would have a big impact.

    (1) A constitutional amendment stating that “corporate persons” are not on a par with human persons for purposes of due process and participation in civic life would help. The entire notion of criminal conduct by a corporation is just silly — see #3 below.

    (2) A 10-year mandatory minimum document retention policy for all internal communications and documents generated by publicly traded companies or their employees would make life a bit more interesting.

    (3) Relaxed standards for “piercing the corporate veil” to reach officers and directors for criminal and civil liability. Corporate entities don’t hurt people; flesh-and-blood people hurt people. Remember always that corporations are nothing more than fictional legal creations. To paraphrase Dad, we brought them into the world, we can take them out of it.

  20. wunsacon Says:

    >> For a long time, American politics has been defined by a Left/Right dynamic.

    I don’t think these issues are going away or being superceded. For instance, I disagree that “abortion is murder” — I’m more inclined to conclude that “meat is murder” simply because pigs and various other animals are already out of the womb when we kill them — but understand that anyone who believes that, say, “human zygotes have souls” is morally obligated to push for their protection. That issue is not going away. Not in America.

    It’s quite possible the “You vs. Corporations” issue is the same “poor vs. rich/robber-baron” issue that’s existed, like, forever. Only now, instead of rich monopolist/oligopolist proprietors and partnerships, you have rich monopolist/oligopolist “corporations”. To the average person, what’s the difference?

  21. DrungoHazewood Says:

    I never paid much attention to Ralph Nader until he pointed out how the parties used to vehemently fight over issues like the defense budget. Now on this and many other questions, its just shovel as much money in to the yawning maw as possible. There was, for a nanosecond, a meeting of the minds between reps, blacks, and blue dogs over the bailouts. It was quickly quashed before such tomfoolery got out of control.

  22. wunsacon Says:

    What Trevor said…

  23. Apinak Says:

    JeffErp, I completely disagree with the notion that Unions should be lumped with corporations. Unions are the collective voice of workers, their fighting for the rights of individuals within the workplace. The owners of corporations have overwhelming influence in congress. Unions are trying to present the other side of the story and are badly outgunned.

  24. dougc Says:

    The respite from corporatocracy as America endured during the Gilden age occured when the ruling oligarchy feared the same fate as their ilk suffered in Russia, being shot. This round of the golden age coincides with the fall of Russian communism,

  25. Concerned American Says:

    This is why I am concerned. These corporations are also destroying the health and lives of those that work for them. It is now expected, you will work 80 hour weeks. No one can hire no matter how badly you are not meeting corporate and customer requirements. Most if not all these corporations are much uglier on the inside than anyone knows on the outside. It is all about $$ per share. Employees and customers are a distant second to $$ per share. It may work out short term. Long term there is a lot of failure in the future at least for the employees and customers here in the US.

  26. wally Says:

    I agree with what BR posts, and link this to both the changed focus of US politics and to the rapidly increasing concentration of wealth and diminution of the middle class.
    You can’t have a consumer-based economy once you diminish the middle class… but the top economic strata no longer cares. They see themselves as able to simply move elsewhere to continue to build their fortunes.

  27. freejack Says:

    Kudos on the post BR.

    And, what the prophet Carlin said…… (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q)

    NSFW

    ~~~

    BR: I’m a huge Carlin fan, and its clear he was much more correct than even his fans may have realized.

  28. Harney Says:

    Barry:

    On my RSS Feed this story from The Onion came up right after your post:
    “New ‘Do Not Kill’ Registry To Allow Americans To Opt Out Of Being Murdered”

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-do-not-kill-registry-to-allow-americans-to-opt,18155/

    Brillant….

  29. Mannwich Says:

    Spot on, Concerned. You nailed it.

  30. Richard R Says:

    Does anyone remember when corporations would accepted stewardship responsibilities as something to be proud of and included the community and employees in the mix of stakeholders? How quaint! A CEO would be fired for proposing such a thing now.

    Speaking of stakeholders, wouldn’t it be nice if common stockholders were included in that group? Corporations are managed for the benefit of the insiders. The “investment industry” exists so that all the insiders can skim all they can from pensions, savings, endowments, and all the other fools.

  31. KG Says:

    See Doug Rushkoff, “Life, Inc.”
    http://rushkoff.com/books/life-incorporated/

  32. DL Says:

    If the price we had to pay for less corporate influence were some sort of left-wing government that is run by labor unions and trial lawyers, I for one wouldn’t want to pay that price.

  33. Robespierre Says:

    Any views on how this “fight” is going to evolve?

  34. ACS Says:

    Blind cheerleading for either party is a sure sign of intellectual and moral bankruptcy because both parties are responsible for the mess we’re in and neither seems capable of solutions. The system has produced career politicians whose only goal is gaining and maintaining power. Elections cost huge amounts of money and thus their votes are up for sale with corporations being the deepest pocket special interest buyers. As many have said, all the other issues merely prevent the bulk of the citizens from getting together and fighting those special interests.

  35. stevenwrichards Says:

    Rage Against the Machine had it right a decade ago! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNjyiCnp3w&feature=fvsr

  36. Petey Wheatstraw Says:

    The biggest corporatist takeover, the grandaddy of them all, is the ABA and state Bar Associations and their control over the legal ‘industry’. Membership in a private organization as a condition of approaching the government for redress (or worse, to defend against charges leveled by one of their own)? How and why does and/or should it cost a minimum of 20K for a citizen to stand before a government official and hope for a favorable decision (on a law that is poorly-enough written to leave plenty o’ room for ‘judgement’)? If you do not hire one of the BA members to communicate to the government for you, you are virtually certain to lose. If you do, your chances are better, but certainly not 50-50.

    The US Judiciary: The world’s most complete and pervasive corporate monopoly.

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  38. countziggenpuss Says:

    BR – Going to have to disagree strongly……. you can certainly assert that both of America’s political parties are run by corporations and that we need a third party that will be ideologically pure and immune from influence by special interest money……. and I ‘ll say, “great points!” But to claim that left vs right is no longer relevant, is pretty much clueless. On the major issues of the day, you can look at the core beliefs of each party and find plenty of examples…….. one party wants to repeal fin-reg reform, while the other thinks it didn’t go far enough; one party wants to repeal healthcare reform, while the other thinks it didn’t go far enough; one party wants to address this year’s supreme court ruling on campaign finance, while the other supports the ruling; one wants to minimize or even eliminate corporate taxes, the other thinks that corporations should have to pay a fair tax in exchange for the protections afforded to corporations under U.S. law; one wanted to amend the Constitution (yes, the Constitution!) in order to ban gay marriage, while the other thinks such a thing is a stupid, waste of time…….. And if you really want to think about it, imagine if the Republicans had still been in charge (yep, the McCain/Palin administration) during this economic melt down instead of just neatly handing it off to Obama. Hoover and the Republicans, in 1932, lacked the good luck of handing off, having their nest of snakes come unraveled while they still held power, and it eventually banished them into the political wilderness.

  39. JT23456 Says:

    jrltexas1 – Mussolini knew what he was talking about – but you don’t. Corporatism is not “corporation-ism”.

    ” In contemporary usage, “corporatism” is often used as a pejorative term against the domination of politics by the interests of business corporations based on the inaccurate interpretation of “corporat” in corporatism as referring to business corporations.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism

  40. Apinak Says:

    DL,

    “DL Says:
    September 27th, 2010 at 11:27 am
    If the price we had to pay for less corporate influence were some sort of left-wing government that is run by labor unions and trial lawyers, I for one wouldn’t want to pay that price.”

    this is why the corporations are winning. These have been so successful in demagoguing their opponents and people Like you buy it hook, line, and sinker.

  41. Arequipa01 Says:

    http://incakolanews.blogspot.com/2010/09/reactionaries-lose-money.html

    Oh the boogie man! Watch out, there’s a commie behind that bush!

    Crappy binary thought mode on display:

    “If the price we had to pay for less corporate influence were some sort of left-wing government that is run by labor unions and trial lawyers, I for one wouldn’t want to pay that price.”

    Former labor leader Lula da Silva sez: “Cae de scroto, DL”

  42. Petey Wheatstraw Says:

    DL Says:

    “If the price we had to pay for less corporate influence were some sort of left-wing government that is run by labor unions and trial lawyers, I for one wouldn’t want to pay that price.”
    _____________

    You pay far more to to the corporatists. Labor unions are as capitalist a phenomena as any other. Since when did labor unions ever try to “run government” except for at the ballot box? That’s the price of representative government (public unions are another thing, entirely,and should be outlawed for obvious conflict of interests). In fact, the only check on the corporatists has been via collective bargaining (why do you think corporations go overseas, where they can get things like cheap child labor?). Labor unions paved the way for the wealth and security the middle class achieved during the latter half of the 20th century. The corporatists will destroy the unions because the unions demand that they share the wealth of our society.

    Your mention of trial lawyers is also misplaced. You have lost far more to corporate lawyers (think Bush v. Gore). It is interesting to note that trial lawyers who get what many would consider “unfair” decisions (that punish corporations) for their clients, usually got those awards at the hands of juries, not judges. Who are you (or anyone of like mind) to disagree with a decision made by your peers?

    Enjoy life under the corporatists. May you be crushed under their oppressive boots.

  43. scottsabol Says:

    Barry,

    Any chance of writing a second book–a follow-up recapping the last 2 years (2011) since the first one?

    Thanks,

    Scott Sabol
    http://sabolscience.blogspot.com

  44. Robespierre Says:

    @countziggenpuss Says:

    “On the major issues of the day, you can look at the core beliefs of each party and find plenty of examples…….. one party wants to repeal fin-reg reform, while the other thinks it didn’t go far enough…”

    All of that would be great if it weren’t for the reality that at the end of the day each party votes with their corporate sponsors and not with “their core belief”. I think you have been duped into believing the propaganda of both parties. Deeds my deeds.

  45. MelJ Says:

    So true, but what to do about it? For starters, here’s
    one suggestion. Some business news shows ask guests if
    they have any disclosures to make concerning any stocks
    or funds they’ve recommended. In a similar vein, when
    they are interviewed, all politicians should be asked who
    their top 3 contributors are and how much money they were
    given by each. But it will never happen because the
    corporations own the media and their goal is to attract
    the largest audience and have access to those in power.

  46. algernon Says:

    Corporations are no threat except with a gov’t powerful enough to grant them favors. Libertartian versus statists is the struggle as before. George Bush was a statist, tho perhaps not as much as the Anointed One is.

  47. YourPortlandFinancialAdvisor Says:

    You’re scaring me… are you just now coming out of a Billy Joel induced coma? Or are you just tossing red meat? Nice work on the record links to Amazon it seems that people bought the whole recommended set.

  48. alnval Says:

    Barry:

    If you won’t consider running for office would you consider stimulating the formation of a group of private citizens a la the “Wise Men” of the 1940’s who were instrumental in crafting NATO, the World Bank and the Marshall Plan. “They came to personify an ideal of statesmanship that was marked by non-partisanship, pragmatic internationalism, and aversion to ideological fervor.” (WIKI)

    Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and Michael Bloomberg come to mind as having already made public their distress at the unhelpful polemical character of our political debate. I’m confident that there are many others out there who are not as well known but who would respond to a catalytic moment in a heart beat.

    Although, as I remember, you didn’t go to either Harvard or Yale, I’m still confident that your contacts in the financial and business communities are wide ranging enough to give you access to an excellent sample of practical, realistic and non-ideological folks who like you are worried about the direction of the country and would like to do something about it.

  49. Petey Wheatstraw Says:

    Robespierre:

    So, looking outside economic policy, how do you explain the right’s obsession with sexual/reproductive issues, its pandering to religious interests (as if we were ever intended to be a Judeo/Christian nation), its racism and xenophobia (the latter it uses as a scare tactic on the citizenry, but which it embraces for profit), or its support for insane candidates?

    Left will never meet right. We don’t even have a “left.” Our left is solidly in the center (closer to the corporations).

  50. DM RTA Says:

    Pop culture increasingly hammers the point that the bad guys (and bad outcomes) can only be rooted out using rules that reduce transparency but after an entire era of decreasing transparency, we find our entire culture saturated with the ill effects of secretive efforts in all parts of business and government (local and national). I am thinking of situations beyond finance but as suggested above, public financing of political campaigns would level the emotional playing field and force campaigners to decide if allegations or ideas should be used for the limited resources and time available…and that might go a long way to restoring the competition of actual ideas. I am guessing that a near majority of Americans does not know what “unfunded liabilities” means.
    This may well sound disconnected but, if failure is not given its due respect as an important aspect of our way of life (business, government, and personal), then this fight will eventually turn into a very nasty generational mess where more realistic youth coming of age blame retirees for their own unrealistic manifestations. Corporations, meanwhile, create an echo chamber playing up emotions chasing small interests and the big picture is constantly lost.

    Freedom isn’t free and failure cannot always be guarded against, even with a seemingly great hedge…and the small minded and selfish tools shouldn’t be influencing the big picture as if they are equals.

  51. lewiswb Says:

    Lived and worked in the D.C. area for 37 years. Hung out, played golf with lawyer/politicians, lobbyists, etc. Always thought if these people are in charge, we might be in big trouble. Hello big trouble. Forget left/right, corporations, etc., the place to start is to get rid of lawyer/politicians and their ilk. For the last thirty five years, I have never voted for ANYONE with a law degree and am pretty sure I never will. If more people thought that way, we could get some actual citizens in congress and the presidency. As long as we have lawyer/politicians buying their elections with corporate funding…oh, wait, I am back to Barry’s initial point.

    And forget health care reform, the number one reform this country needs is LEGAL reform.

    As my old pappy used to say, thems that gots the gold makes the rules. And we turned over the pot of gold to the wrong people years ago.

    Of course, Pappy also used to say people get the government they deserve, and whenever I turn on the TV (say for example American Idol, Oprah, reality TV, The Springer Show) I think Pappy was right again.

  52. rickety rick Says:

    barry, join the tea party. they’re way ahead of you. they’re very engaged on this problem.

    i see it as a 3-way battle between big corporations, big labor, and the 800 pound gorilla big government.

    wake up voters.

  53. Bob A Says:

    and you might add …corporations that have become more and more like organized crime organizations…

  54. Bob A Says:

    the tea party? you gotta be kidding.

    the tea party was conceived, bankrolled, orchestrated by and is nothing but a puppet of…

  55. Lugnut Says:

    BR wrote: If you see the world in terms of Left & Right, you really aren’t seeing the world at all . . .

    If I may suggest, Barry, I think you may be missing the more subtle point that the unswashed masses view it as a Left vrs Right prism precisely because the corporations and their lobbyists want it painted that way, and have done an exceedingly good job defining the playing field and what teams are on it.

    Much easier to have the politicians front run the PR, so that if the citizenry are upset over whats going on in DC, they can still believe that if they can play ping-pong with who controls the House and Senate come election time, “their guys” will come in and fix things, ignoring the fact that “their guys” are probably having their legislation written out by the same K-street legal eagles as the guys they’re trying to vote out.

  56. Barry Ritholtz Says:

  57. ronin Says:

    Barry, good post.

    What you’re referring to is Corporatism. I first started studying about this phenomenon in 2000 and haven’t stopped. Once you start searching about this deeply interesting phenomenon it will lead you to Alex Jones. Most people think Alex is a “kook” or “tinfoil hatter” (and they might be right), but one thing is for sure, he’s been ranting about this longer than anyone else on the net. You name the industry, whether it’s farming, security, medicine, or climate and guaranteed Alex Jones can map it back to the revolving door of staff members coming and going between government job to corporate executive and back. Sure we all know about Cheney and Rumsfeld, but you’d be shocked to hear and see about all the people you’ve never heard of before.

    There are many people talking about it now and we only welcome more people to keep the conversation alive….

  58. countziggenpuss Says:

    @ Robespierre Says:

    “All of that would be great if it weren’t for the reality that at the end of the day each party votes with their corporate sponsors and not with “their core belief”. I think you have been duped into believing the propaganda of both parties.”

    Ummmmmm, no……. it’s about the fact that we have this stupid legislative body called the Senate, in which 60 votes are required to pass legislation and the 2 senators each from Wyoming, Delaware & Alaska all have the same power as those from California, Texas & New York…….. so compromises, however unfortunate, need to be made and the “centrists” – those who don’t want to shake things up – rule the place.

    And it’s the simpletons who think that “both parties are the same” who have been duped by a media, who insists on framing every debate as being between “different points of view”, rather than facts vs lies.

  59. patient renter Says:

    Amen. This theme, above all others, is something I would love to see become more prominently discussed in all circles.

  60. curbyourrisk Says:

    Republican = Democrat. Democrat = Republican.

    That is all I have to say

  61. Petey Wheatstraw Says:

    DM RTA:

    There is no such thing as “unfunded liabilities” in a fiat money economy (goes double plus when it’s also the global reserve currency economy). Why do we even discuss such things as taxation or poverty under such a regime, when everything about it is synthetic? Our current predicament is a result of political choice.

    We have a problem of distribution/allocation, and nothing more (the money supply could match the debt with a few keystrokes). Circulation has been choked off. The middle class has been willingly disinherited. We traded a functional government of the People for a Corporatist juggernaut — they write the policy, and it favors them.

    Lots of talk, lately, about the US losing reserve currency status. I don’t think that will happen (not a good thing) because there is no non-fiat alternative.

  62. pereduchesne Says:

    Two parties; one establishment.

    It’s not just corporations vs. citizens. Increasingly it’s corporations using government to dominate citizens.

    For a little taste of what Big Brother has in store for all of us, consider the Obama administration’s proposed wire tap rule changes as reported by Charlie Savage in today’s NYT

    You may also be interested in the proposed rule changes that would require banks to report all electronic money transfers in and out of the country, regardless of the amounts as reported in today’s WP by Ellen Nakishima .

  63. VennData Says:

    So corporate media is being replaced by… blogs and user content taking away the power and giving it back to the people? Uh… well Gingrich, Palin, Santorum, Huckabee are FOX commentators. That means they get paid by the beast.

    http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Fox+commentators+candidates

    Is it starting to make sense to you GOP suckers?

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  65. FrancoisT Says:

    The question is: what is the end game of such a sorry state of affairs?

    Here’s a thought: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/06/gonzalo-lira-is-the-u-s-a-fascist-police-state.html

    It’s not pretty, but the author got some very important points nailed down perfectly.

    A police-state uses the law as a mechanism to control any challenges to its power by the citizenry, rather than as a mechanism to insure a civil society among the individuals. The state decides the laws, is the sole arbiter of the law, and can selectively (and capriciously) decide to enforce the law to the benefit or detriment of one individual or group or another.

    In other words, those who can help the state stay in power, a.k.a. the Corporations.

    In a police-state, the citizens are “free” only so long as their actions remain within the confines of the law as dictated by the state. If the individual’s claims of rights or freedoms conflict with the state, or if the individual acts in ways deemed detrimental to the state, then the state will repress the citizenry, by force if necessary. (And in the end, it’s always necessary.)

    What’s key to the definition of a police-state is the lack of redress: If there is no justice system which can compel the state to cede to the citizenry, then there is a police-state. If there exists a pro forma justice system, but which in practice is unavailable to the ordinary citizen because of systemic obstacles (for instance, cost or bureaucratic hindrance), or which against all logic or reason consistently finds in favor of the state—even in the most egregious and obviously contradictory cases—then that pro forma judiciary system is nothing but a sham: A tool of the state’s repression against its citizens. Consider the Soviet court system the classic example.

    A police-state is not necessarily a dictatorship. On the contrary, it can even take the form of a representative democracy. A police-state is not defined by its leadership structure, but rather, by its self-protection against the individual.

    BTW Barry, let’s also mention the incredible difference in treatment the corporation receive as a judicial defendant compared to the individual. It is just plain astonishing to see how soft on crime the state and the judiciary become when the defendant is a corporation.

  66. mikecullin Says:

    As I read this, a Jeep Cherokee is circling my office building (I work for a large bank) with the words “Glass Steagall or Die” writ across it. The driver is announcing something over a loudspeaker which I can’t make out but which likely expresses opposition to big banks.

  67. Apinak Says:

    Alnval, I would add Bruce Bartlett to the list of wise men.

    This is my litmus test for who I classify as informed, do they recognize the corrupt state of our political systems and the role of corporations in that corruption.

    Reclaim Democracy has been fighting corporate personhood for years on a shoestring budget. http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/

  68. patient renter Says:

    “the tea party? you gotta be kidding.

    the tea party was conceived, bankrolled, orchestrated by and is nothing but a puppet of…”

    No. For the record (and it seems that nobody is aware of this, but…) the modern reincarnation of the Tea Party was a 2007 event conceived by Ron Paul supporters for his Presidential campaign. The idea was later picked up and reused by like-minded supporters, but quickly co-opted by not-so-like-minded people, corps, etc. The original motivation seems lost to the sands of time…

  69. DL Says:

    curbyourrisk @ 12:51

    The bills signed by Obama (so far) have received virtually no Republican support.

    This may be good; it may be bad. But at present, the two parties have very different agendas.

  70. drocto Says:

    But if we were to, say, raise the income tax rate on incomes over $1MM to perhaps 40%, these great leaders would quit and leave us adrift, shivering in the dark.

  71. obsvr-1 Says:

    George Carlin had it right, we’re *ucked … the ironic thing is that the mass populace really has the power, but trying to organize an effort to pull power away from the right/left machine is nearly impossible, it will take an events or series of events like the financial crisis and the aftermath of having tremendous impact on the mass populace to ignite a revolution that may, just may coalesce into an organization with enough critical mass to make a difference.

    Just think if everyone pulled their savings and funds from the TBTF and used the “mattress” or local bank instead, a strong message could be sent that change must be made.

    Just think, instead of tea being thrown into the harbor, if everyone decided to take a year long holiday and stopped paying their credit card bill, or if all the underwater mortgagee’s decided to stop paying their mortgage using strategic default or forced restructuring.

    Most people are moderates and want to be in the center, but there is no political party for them, you either have to go right or left. Libertarians as an alternative, they are too radical on the free market theory and in no way should anyone consider (multi-national and special interest lead) corporations to be in the center, they are in it for themselves and use whichever the party in power to get what they want.

    Full circle back to George Carlin …

  72. ywsimw Says:

    Unfortunately, I don’t have time to read the previous comments ; so apologies if this is a repeat.

    I think this topic deserves some deeper analysis ; since corporations are run by… individuals !

    I think that this is more a case of individuals “using” corporations (or its powers or what have you) to their own benefit at the expense of other individuals who are not skilled at that.

    Great post anyway, got me thinking !

  73. Robespierre Says:

    @Petey Wheatstraw Says:

    “how do you explain the right’s obsession with sexual/reproductive issues, its pandering to religious interests (as if we were ever intended to be a Judeo/Christian nation)…”

    There is a population “right” and a “left”. What I’m saying is that neither party belongs to any of them. The republicans know that the “morality mantra” will get them 1/3 of the votes regardless of their actions on that subject or any other. Just like the democrats know that “pro-unions, rich-against-poor” will get them 1/3 regardless of what they do once in power. So the population at large can be right or left the parties on the other hand are corporatist.

  74. CB Says:

    It seems that a capitalist – flavored corporatocracy is what the US has become during the last 50 years. The general population is distracted by polarizing ‘hot button’ personal belief system issues while legal power and control is sold to the highest corporate bidder/lobbyist. Concentration of power seems to be standard human behavior regardless of any initial ‘noble’ organizing principles.

  75. Petey Wheatstraw Says:

    DL Says:

    “The bills signed by Obama (so far) have received virtually no Republican support.”

    But they still benefit corporate interests over those of the citizenry.

  76. Long term Says:

    As an independent, I identify with no party but look for leaders with innovative ideas.

    Corporations are certainly not the root of evil. They are merely collections of people working in their common interest. It is very possible they are NOT working in overall public interest but it is most certain they are working for the benefit of the owners (and/or insiders) of the corporation. It makes total sense that the largest, best organized corps have quite a lot of power for there are a lot of people involved in the effort.

    If I am in a family of 8 people, it is very likely that I am working with the other 7 members in our unique self interest, which inherently might not be in the direct interest of surrounding families or individuals. As a well organized family (“corp”) of 8, we would likely wield extreme powers versus a single individual. The individual might see this an unfair advantage but the family sure won’t.

    Just remember that if those same brow-beaten corps start making you 20% returns next year, you will love them no matter how they turned the trick. And the corps know that. If the People want returns so badly that “ends justify the means” is acceptable, there will be many abuses. We all have dirty hands.

  77. Robespierre Says:

    @countziggenpuss Says:

    “Ummmmmm, no……. it’s about the fact that we have this stupid legislative body called the Senate, in which 60 votes are required to pass legislation”

    Obama had an opportunity to set the tone for his presidency when he took power. Instead, he went out of the way to please bankers by continuing the same policies his predecessor started. These BTW are the same bankers that provided millions to get him elected. Do you ever wonder why neither the republicans nor the democrats ever pushed the executive branch into investigating for criminal wrong doing any of the failed financial institutions?

  78. bobmitchell Says:

    Petey

    And the other Choice &#0153 gets to sell itself to the masses as opposition, knowing full well that they would have done the same under a different brand.

  79. Petey Wheatstraw Says:

    ywsimw Says:

    “I think this topic deserves some deeper analysis ; since corporations are run by… individuals!”
    _______________

    Individuals who are apparently above the law, thanks to the corporate shield. Criminality with no material perpetrator. There is no corpus in a corporation. As in, “I ain’t got no body . . .” Get it?

  80. riverrat Says:

    David Korten has written extensively about the overshoot of corporate power and influence well beyond the point where it still benefits the average citizen, and about alternatives to an economy and political process controlled by corporations.

    I do think Barry overstated the degree to which distinctions between the Left and Right have broken down- there are still meaningful (IMO) policy differences between the parties, and goals they purport to be working toward. But that is not to say that these distinctions haven’t become considerably more blurry, or that the Democrats aren’t increasingly feeble in their defense of the average citizen. I guess I see this as inevitable result of the influence of money in politics- the Democrats have a choice to either get into the corporate money game aggressively, or be left behind in a cloud of dust.

    Great post though, in that it helps illuminate the crossroads we are at WRT reforming the way corporations and elections are regulated. The appalling Citizens United Supreme Court decision may very well turn out to be the final nail in the coffin of individual rights and access to the political process. The only way to avert such a fate is through critical analysis such as this.

  81. Robespierre Says:

    @Long term Says:

    “They are merely collections of people working in their common interest. It is very possible they are NOT working in overall public interest but it is most certain they are working for the benefit of the owners (and/or insiders) of the corporation. It makes total sense that the largest, best organized corps have quite a lot of power for there are a lot of people involved in the effort.”

    You are so wrong. You are making it look like corporations are like democracies run by the people who work there. That is far from the truth. You also making it look like the officers of the corporations are working for the benefit of the shareholders. Wrong again, otherwise ho do you explain short term thinking withing most corporations? Corporations exits for the benefit of who controls them (Execs + BoD). At least that is what facts seem to show.

  82. ray l love Says:

    I have made a similar argument to the one presented here many times. Although, I usually frame it as investment-class vs non investment-class as a way of dividing the 2 groups in terms of economic interests and that affect on our democratic process .

    The investment-class represented 2% of the population in the late 1920s, by the 1980s, before the 401(k) saturation, that percentage had grown to 25%. By 2006 it was 50% although much of the growth during this last period is somewhat diluted in terms of ‘class’ by 401(k)s as retirement ‘funds’.

    It is important to recognize that nearly every person of influence in this country, whether they be media personnel, or from nearly any of the of special interest categories (even trade union operatives), and nearly all public employees at every level of government, are stock holders in our corporate empire. So it is not just the economic elites who are forming our nation to suit their interests but it is in fact our democracy that is undermining its own balance between the 2 socio-economic classes. And this ‘sharing of the profits’ has aligned a large enough voting bloc to cause each of the political parties to shift their platforms accordingly. Of course each party must define itself as that which offers alternatives, but those differences are narrowing over time.

    It is also important to recognize that the ‘absence’ of dissent plays a very critical role in a democracy… and so, the absence of information is as critical to the manipulation of our culture as is misinformation or explicit deceit. And those who are ‘sharing in the profits’ are much less apt to dissent in regards to our corporate empire than those who do not see themselves as benefiting. And of course the non-investment class has increasingly less of a voice as a result.

  83. Petey Wheatstraw Says:

    Long term:

    “Corporations are certainly not the root of evil. They are merely collections of people working in their common interest.”

    Corporations exist for one reason, and one reason, only: To shield people from liability for their actions. There can be no good outcome from such a legal roadblock. People can work together just fine without a new “person” being created to take responsibility when things go wrong. If you disagree, please name one positive social benefit of incorporation that could not be achieved by means of contract between individuals.

  84. bleedingheartoftexas Says:

    I agree with the sentiment, but this is not a new dynamic. This country was founded as a capitalist economy, not a democracy. Read Howard Zinn, the fix has been in from the beginning. The only reason there has ever been even the appearance of a Left/Right dynamic is because the corporatists benefit from having the rabble divided. And so the corporate PR firms (ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX) report the issues in those divisive terms. Liberal/conservative, black/white, beliver/non-believer, new immigrant/descendant of immigrants. Any convenient wedge to keep the torches unlit and the pitchforks in the barn.

  85. Mannwich Says:

    @DL: I would call that a “false choice”, or red herring you’re throwing out there. Please.

  86. peter north Says:

    Amen, Barry. I’ve been saying forever, it isn’t that the Dems and the Republicans are too far apart to cooperate, it’s that they are too much the same. You just have to ask the right questions, which sadly, our MSM has lost the will (or ability?) to do.

  87. The Curmudgeon Says:

    The issue is individual versus collective rights. It is as old as the republic. Individuals, alone, are necessarily far less powerful than individuals allied in groups, like corporations, unions, political parties, etc. Yet the whole thesis of America’s founding is that individuals, not groups, have rights that the state is obligated to protect (we find these truths to be self-evident, etc). Aggregations of individuals have no such inherent rights, but are far more powerful politically. That’s the tension.

  88. DuchessGateau Says:

    Yes! Our lives have become a battle of BIG Corporations vs. Everybody else. TRILLIONS of dollars eclipse the power of millions. You will be highly encouraged to vote on issues and candidates which make no difference. On all important issues, a COMMITTEE OF THREE people shall be appointed to decide in favor of Big Corporations! Alternatively, a 5-4 decision of the Supreme Court or 1 Special Prosecutor will be allowed to distract and decide the outcome. This is all possible now that money has been used to buy off every level of government.

  89. Minderbender Says:

    Barry,

    Prescient, relevant insight into our current history.

    Glad to see you join Lafayette, Jefferson (and other founding fathers), most vividly manifested and rendered in Andrew Jackson, with examples all the way up to today, including, ironically, both Michael Moore and Glenn Beck, in their own ways.

    Welcome to to Tea Party (perhaps misnamed, certainly mis-described and misunderstood by most.

    Best way to get a feel for the tea party essence is to strip away all those left-right descriptors and instead see that at it’s core (not whole, but a good starting point) that it is a group of *small business* owners and other *individuals* – i.e. the folks that our constitution was written for (in it’s day, small business shopkeepers, farmers, individuals).

    This is unique in history, and and the recurring emergence of this *individual interest* vs all others is the fudamental insight – as you yourself have now artfully articulated.

    Believe it or not, on this score, you are squarely on point with the Tea Partiers in this respect – you ought to take your own advice and avoid any pre-judgements based on all the left right descriptors of this conglomeration of voluntary associated groups, and write about it’s essence, a clarifying clarion call amidst the muddle and noise – more articles and a book.

    (Would love to see you take this on in radio and TV, but not sure that would work – any discussion usually reverts to the so-called left-right issues and descriptors within a couple of minutes)

  90. Patrick Neid Says:

    Food Inc. and King Corn are two very entertaining documentaries that explore corporate behaviour and how it impacts the heartland so to speak. The link between Congress, lobbyists and the Corporations is made very clear. Some of the laws they have passed are truly amazing. As a side effect it may make you a vegetarian!

  91. ToNYC Says:

    If you will permit an antecedent to this Bigger Picture: the wind beneath the wings of the Corporations is the Federal Reserve member banks production of credit.
    The background I found relevant has been up on the macroeconomic forum at ZH and some exposure.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/forums/zero-hedge-forums/macroeconomic-forum

    Soon there will be a post up there on the Central Bank business monopoly model being engineered in our cultural face by Monsanto, highlighting the work of
    http://www.percyschmeiser.com/
    who won the Right Livelihood Award in 2007 in his mano à corporat prevail against Monsanto.
    Donald Rumsfeld’s was CEO in early Reagan days (after he led Aspartame development at Searle) in the grand design to own the seed of all edible crops on the planet…culminating in the Terminator gene and ownership proven by surviving Round-Up…it’s a Witch!!!
    The post will be titled “No Private Central Seed (MON) Bank!”
    We are social animals and need to ride the magic animal spirit of the Capitalist Tiger but not become one.
    Welcome aboard!

  92. Tom K Says:

    “It was a right-winger who bailed out all of the big banks, Fannie Mae, and AIG in the first place;”

    Let’s not mention that the vast majority of house Republican’s voted against these corporate bailouts. But mentioning it would destroy the whole narrative, wouldn’t it? I find it hilarous that so many folks on the left (yes Barry, you included) think they know how fiscal conservatives (not Republicans) and libertarians think about corporate welfare.

    Throughout Bush’s term, contributions to the GOP fell and GOP party affiliation fell. Liberals, especially those in the MSM, mis-read this, believing the country was moving ideologically to the left. In fact, they had it completely wrong. Fiscal conservatives were highly critical of the GOP throughout Bush’s term. There were countless articles and post written on the subject, but nobody on the left ever took notice. Here’s just one example: http://www.nypress.com/article-9913-the-conservative-case-against-george-w-bush.html

    Do true fiscal conservatives and Libertarians support handouts to corporations? Not at all, but you wouldn’t know that from listening to the MSM. The left doesn’t understand corporate welfare runs exactly counter to Capitalism and free-market principles. Most companies don’t want to compete in a true Capitalistic system if they can get an edge through government. All that said, I disagree with the notion that the main problem we face is a Corporatocracy. The problem we face is we live in a country where the people can vote themselves goods and services they don’t have to pay for.

    ~~~~

    BR: 1) Your facts are wrong; The GOP vote was 108 to 91 — hardly a “vast majority.”

    2) You are still thinking horizontally instead of vertically.

    Open Secrets:

    Members of the House of Representatives who voted in favor of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 had received 41 percent more money from the financial sector over their congressional careers than those who opposed the legislation, the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics has found. In Wednesday’s Senate vote and in the House vote Monday that defeated an earlier version of the bailout proposal, campaign contributions from the finance, insurance and real estate correlated similarly to lawmakers’ votes.

    Overall, the 263 House members who supported the bailout Friday have received an average of $833,077 since 1989 from the industries that were most eager to see the rescue bill passed. The 171 opponents have collected $589,417, on average. In the 2007-2008 election cycle alone, the finance sector has contributed at least $182,532 to congressman voting “yea” and $138,040 to those who voted “nay,” a difference of 32 percent.

    What matters most in casting their votes was not a left/right, Dem/GOP affiliation. It is who got much money from their corporate backers.

  93. yuan Says:

    I would suggest a small correction:
    The Center-right Extreme-right Paradigm is Over: Its You vs. Corporations.

  94. Arequipa01 Says:

    Federal Prosecutor in Stevens Case Commits Suicide

    http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2010/09/federal-prosecutor-in-stevens-case-commits-suicide.html

    Wake up and Get the point.

  95. louis Says:

    And the first battle is being played out now- Strategic Default- Us vs Them.

  96. Freddy Hutter - TrendLines Research Says:

    Members of Congress, especially in the Senate, have freely admitted that fund raising activities begin the week after the last Election. Aspirants are buying elections with multi-million dollar campaigns. Your electoral process has become the laughing stock of the globe and drafting/passing legislation has mostly become dysfunctional. Even the long admired committee system and its hearings are becoming tainted. Too many are beholden to their paymasters … or at least give the appearance of same. All matters of electoral reform are required urgently.

  97. Robespierre Says:

    @Minderbender Says:

    @Barry,

    “including, ironically, both Michael Moore and Glenn Beck, in their own ways.

    Welcome to to Tea Party (perhaps misnamed, certainly mis-described and misunderstood by most.”

    Can’t wait for Barry’s answer….

  98. DeDude Says:

    I would say that pro-corporations vs. pro-individual is just one more of those pro-X vs. pro-Y items and that they are all still valid. It is probably one of the bigger ones and it actually always existed. Indeed many of the ones you list are just another way of saying corporations vs individuals. For many of these X vs Y issues it has been divided such that democrats took one side and republicans the other side. The thing that makes the corporations vs individual issue unique is that with the huge amount of money available to them, the corporations managed to brand one party (republicans) as being pro-individual at the same time as that party constantly passed legislation that served corporations over individuals (corporate control of media can help you do miracles). This strengthened the corporations enough that they could begin taking more power within the democratic party. At this time corporations own 99% of the GOP and a majority of the democratic party and their takeover of the supreme court and associated blocking of any attempt of reducing corporate strangleholds on financing elections, counting votes (Diebold machines), and distribution of information (destroying internet neutrality) will soon put corporations at such a level of control that only armed uprising will be able to dislodge them.

    I disagree that the GOP vs democrat debate is irrelevant for this issue. It is only within the left of the democratic party that there has been any serious movement towards protecting individuals against abuse of corporations. I agree that democrats have been seriously corrupted by corporate influence, but there is still a strong fraction within that party that are fighting for the right things. They need the full backing of all of us to have a chance of pushing the corporations back out of the democratic party and give people a realistic way to fight our corporate masters. You have it totally wrong when you say a “left winger continued to pour more money into”, it was a right of center democrat that did it, and the left wingers in congress did not have the power to push back against it. There is still plenty of difference between the two main parties and only lazy fools will state that they are “the same”. Look at the legislations and amendments proposed, and you will find one party being the unapologetic corporate servant on issues such as consumer protection (against corporate greed). But I would be the first to say that I wish there was a lot more difference on a lot more issues, and I wish we had a party (name doesn’t matter) that would be strongly pro-individuals rights against corporations. But without an electorate sophisticated and engaged enough to recognize the clear nuances in corporate servantship between the current parties, how could that happen. Just look at how easy the tea-party was taken over (created?) by corporate players who co-opted less government (oppression of individuals) into less government control over corporations. Less power to “we the people” give more power to them the corporations – yet the peeps just peep along with their corporate masters pushing their way towards the slaughter house.

  99. tsk tsk Says:

    Do Non-Profits get a pass in this theory? Non-profits are still incorporated entities but their profits remain untaxed. NPOs exert substantial influence over policy makers yet seem to get a reprieve in this discussion. Just because they are supposed to ‘do good’ for society not all of them do. All too many are resource hogs, experience managerial waste and unaccountability. That and we are all aware of non-profits which are basically tax-deduction dumping grounds for the rich.

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  101. dss Says:

    DL:

    Look at the price we have paid for 30 years of the right wing plutocrats controlling everything. Even many Democrats are part of the plutocracy. This country has moved so far to the right that guys like Nixon and Goldwater would be characterized as “left wing loonies”.

  102. stevenjs Says:

    I’m afraid this article, as accurate as it is regarding the nature of the conflict between the individual and the corporate owners of power, would replace the left/right dynamic with empty sophistry.

    The Left has always been the David vs. Goliath story, the Right has always been the corporatists. The fallacy arises when one imagines that the Right is the exclusive domain of the Republican Party, while the “Left” is the Democratic Party. Both are Right wing in the corporatist argument, and neither, apart from the small fringes of each, are Left in the individual’s corner.

    There is virtually no Left in the United States. The very word socialism, much more so communism, is virtually banned, verboten, an obscenity, never uttered in polite company. The meaning and potential of socialist thought is rejected in ignorance, and even the terms of its critique of corporatism are disallowed in the national discourse, such as it is. One can well imagine a Europoean liberal declaring the USA a retard for this ideological blind spot, the emperor with no clothes, while the rest of the capitalist world has vigorous socialist parties, candidates, open and serious discussion, in short they have not burned the books in that part of the library, but given them the philosphical standing they plainly deserve. Einstein as a socialist. The list of genius who were so is longer than any other political affiliation.

    We are the ostrich nation, head in sand. Without our murderous military might and armament economy, we’d be the ideological laughing stock of the globe (where we are not already). Imagine, an impoverished working class rural dweller voting for the party of wealth, war and corporate domination because they hate gays or think abortion is sin or are afraid the party of the people will take away their guns, or would prefer to pay less taxes. There should be an idiot test for voting.

    At least the rhetoric of the “party of the people” is left sounding, fake to be sure, but even so any working class person, including midddle class workers, should have their head examined if they can see a way to voting Republican, which is to say, totally against their individual economic and political interest (except for the debilitating gay, gun, or god obsession by which they are duped). This is only possible because ignorance of socialism is nearly universal in America. We’ve just shut our eyes and made war on the concept since its inception.

    The only way the Democratic Party will cease to be corporatism lite, versus Republican corporatism vicious, is if a third party, or candidate, or string of candidates, pulls them (kicking and screaming) there. For there to be a Left in this country, the Dem’s corporatism lite would be the conservative right wing position of the Republicans, and we’d have a Socialist Party worth its name in the Democratic Party space.

    Not that I am a socialist, mind you, it’s just that human development for the past 100 or so years has hinged on understanding its critique of capitalism, and we as a nation are indeed retards on the world’s political stage.

    Unfortunately, we claim supremacy and leadership, and that at the point of a gun, an armed retard, on the loose, evangelizing its dementia to a bewildered world.

    To see the world, we need to see there is no Left in the USA, only two degrees of the corporatist Right.

  103. dss Says:

    @Rick,

    Labor unions have lost out big over the years and are no longer the force they once were.

  104. Thor Says:

    Denise – Good point. Can you imagine trying to get something like The Clean Air, or The Endangered Species act through congress today? Half the democrats would vote no!

    This whole “Liberal agenda” bullshit has been foisted on this country by the plutocracy.

  105. The Left Right Paradigm is Over: Its You vs. Corporations | iNoTruth Says:

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  106. Fred Mack Says:

    Barry – GREAT ARTICLE!!! I’ve done the get an education, work hard, and treat people right path as my Midwestern parents taught all of the six kids in our family. I went from nothing to over a six figure income, and was downsized several times in the process. Companies justify ALL of their actions by the mantra that their mission is to “increase shareholder value”. I’m posting a link to your site on mypeoplesvoice.com. One might ask….. What do we do to change things? Even the best intentioned government officials become corporate puppets out of fear “unemployment”, and having to exist in the “real” world like the rest of us.

  107. winslow Says:

    25 yrs ago I attended a seminar on the future of economic America. The main premise was that small businesses (10-20 employees) was going to be the future driver of America.

    Being that it has not played out in the predicted manner that was to enhance the future of the majority of Americans; as you have indicated, corporations have taken over every facet of American life.

  108. hammerandtong2001 Says:

    From the Baseline Scenario:

    http://baselinescenario.com/2010/09/13/the-importance-of-the-1970s/#more-8026

    To the former question, their argument is simple: business interests in all sectors organized a takeover of political power that pushed organized labor and other groups protecting middle-class interests to the sidelines and made possible decades of policies that have enriched the super-rich at the expense of everyone else, including the merely affluent. Finance was simply the biggest and most profitable of these sectors–and, we would emphasize, the one best able to hold the government hostage in a financial and economic crisis.

    ….

  109. bergsten Says:

    Barry — you might want to go back and watch Network to remember what became of Howard Beale at the end. Just sayin’.

  110. tesky Says:

    Very insightful article and comments. I have a question: HOW did this happen? Is this simply due to the rise of corporations since the nineteenth century? Power corrupts? Or perhaps a lack of campaign finance reform? Was the corporate takeover of the government a collusive effort?

    Most importantly, what is the remedy?

  111. diogeron Says:

    As an old, retired guy, I was used to Republicans with whom I often sparred about the value (or lack there0f) of government regulation, whether Keynes got it mostly right or not, etc. Now, however, I find far too many people who self-identify as “conservatives” who tell me that evolution is a myth, the humans don’t contribute at all to climate change, that our schools are failing because “we’ve taken God out of our schools” (by which they always seem to mean, THEIR God), and a whole host of other similar issues which I find baffling. Have Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh really replaced William F. Buckley and Russell Kirk as the voice of “conservatives?” If not, then why are so many on the Republican Right willing to attribute more credibility to Glenn Beck, who never attended college, than the National Academy of Sciences on climate change or who claim that since evolution is “just a theory” then we should let Ben Stein invoke “intelligent design” as the solution to improving the values of our young people and require it to be taught in schools as an “alternative perspective” to evolution? After seeing his film promoting ‘intelligent design,” I’m convinced the only thing Ben Stein is capable of proving in the realm of science is that the idea of regression to the mean is alive and kicking and that Ben Stein should be offered up as “Exhibit A” to anyone who doubts that the concept is real.

    This is not my father’s or my grandfather’s GOP.

  112. WFTA Says:

    I think it may not be so much ”corporation vs. me” as it is who owns the corporations. I think we often fail to realize just how wealthy the very wealthy really are. The numbers I’ll use here are not 100% accurate, but they are accurate enough to support the point:

    I’ve been fortunate to earn a college degree and work in relatively professional positions for the past 30 years. I’m debt free and estimate my net worth at about $1.6 million with <20% as real estate. I think most people would be surprised to know that this puts me in about the 79th or 80th percentile of net worth in the United States. You might be more surprised to know that people owning as much as I do or less hold no more that about 3.5% of the country’s net worth. And most of that wealth is real estate, not financial.

    The wealthiest 2% of the U.S. population owns well over half of the country’s net worth and an even larger share of financial wealth.

    What is truly amazing to me that the uber-wealthy, through the genius of the Republican Party, have succeeded in convincing a substantial portion (maybe a majority) of the Walmart demographic and the Tea Partiers, most of whom have a small pot to piss in and an even smaller window to throw it out of, to believe that universal healthcare is a bad thing and that regressive taxation is a good thing.

  113. DL Says:

    Setting aside the issue of the special interest groups (e.g., trial lawyers and labor unions), there is another issue, which is that of taxing foreign income of multinational corporations (income that has not been repatriated). Obama would love to do this.

    While there might be a modest short term benefit, I think the long term effects of this would be devastating. U.S. multinationals would be put at an enormous disadvantage vis a vis their foreign counterparts.

  114. ToNYC Says:

    @tesky
    Your remedy is to start today de-levering your dollars into your or other local Intellectual Property and re-lever up into your life off the Plantation. What if you refused every plastic bag and rolled with your own?

  115. rktbrkr Says:

    A corporation that totally screws up gets liquidated thru bankruptcy, right? WRONG – the 19 largest banks (some are just kinda banks really) were granted immortal life with the “too big to fail”. They aren’t controlled by the government they control it. GM can fail – they only “make” stuff but GMAC/Ditech/Ally whatever – they are too essential to the US of A to fail. Sickening.

  116. WaveCatcher Says:

    RIGHT ON!

    Weird how I was thinking about this very thing over the weekend.

  117. The Left Right Paradigm is Over: Its You vs. Corporations « Truth USA Says:

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  118. ParadigmLinks Says:

    Democrat/Republican divide-and-conquer since Civil War:

    http://www.michaeljournal.org/bankphilo.htm

    Our top leaders are…working…to rule the world.
    But while they are implementing this plan,
    they must keep the people busy with political
    antagonisms.

    We’ll therefore speed up…the political organization
    called the Democratic Party; and we’ll…spotlight…
    the Republican Party.

    By dividing the electorate this way, we’ll be able to
    have them spend their energies at struggling
    amongst themselves on questions that, for us,
    have no importance…

    It is thus that, through discreet acts, we can maintain
    what was so generously projected and executed with
    such a remarkable success.

    P.S.
    @stevenjs – the new word for tyranny is communitarianism -
    read Occult Technocracy of Power too

  119. Change | The Big Picture Says:

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  120. Tom Hickey Says:

    Marshal Auerback has a similar post at Naked Capitalism today here.

  121. Tom Hickey Says:

    This ties in to Ravi Batra’s latest book, The New Golden Age: The Coming Revolution against Political Corruption and Economic Chaos. It’s a global phenomenon, and the reaction is already hitting in Latin America — Brazil, for example.

  122. mpavan Says:

    it has NEVER been about left vs. right. Like Jim Hightower said ages ago, it’s about top versus bottom.

    always has been. But it is getting so egregious, that it is becoming more and more apparent.

  123. lovejoy Says:

    Spot on. Brilliant.

    I am going to start reading the classic sixties books. Looks like another counterrevolution is needed.

    … Not going to work for the man and let the man dictate my life.

    Live free or die!

  124. tradewithdavedotcom Says:

    Hey Barry…. what are you doing… trying to put me out of business? What am I going to write about, if you write about what I’m going to write about before I write about it…. geez.

    http://tradewithdave.com/?p=2313

    Dave Harrison

  125. jdowd Says:

    The corporations v. individuals is pretty much the stated position of the right-wing as to how things should work — i.e. a free market will allow corporations to do whatever they want and we as individuals are “free” to interact with them as we wish. The problem is, as the author notes, the power imbalance between an individual and a collective force like a corporation. the solution would be for these individuals (or perhaps workers) to ban together and challenge their power in the marketplace and in the government. unions are the obvious way to do that and this is pretty much the current battle everywhere you look. from school “reform” (notice how it only counts as reform if its anti-union, but suggestions for change by teachers unions are never called reform), to tax and spending cuts, privatization, even the auto bailouts.

    it is still pretty much labor v. capitol with most of the public lining up with capitol because their mad that a union employee has one more sick day then them – see New Jersey where the governor has successfully enlisted much of the middle class in an assault on middle class wages, secure retirements, decent health benefits, yearly raises etc.

    as for left v. right – you seem to assume left=democrat right=republican. a more accurate reading would be center-right=democrat far right=republican.

  126. xynz Says:

    Barry, what is it that makes Obama a “Left Winger”?

    Sorry, but the “Left” has been very unhappy with Obama, precisely because he’s been on the “Center-Right” on too many crucial issues.

    Picking Geithner and Summers to run his economic team, that was a move to the Center-Right.

    Health Care Reform: the Left Wing position was something like “Medicare for All”. Obama gave us a Center-Right “Health Insurance Reform”. This was exactly what Big-Pharma and the Health Insurance Industry wanted: tens of millions of new clients pushed into corporate health care, all getting the same crappy insurance, but now subsidized by billions of taxpayers dollars.

    On the crucial issues: the Economy, Health Care, Constitutional protections during the War on (some) Terrorists, the wars in Iraq and Afgahnistan….Obama has been steadily pursuing issues that are Center-Right.

    There are many issues where Obama has been tacking Center-Left, but they have almost all been social-culutral issues: abortion, equal rights for gays/lesibians, stem cell research.

    Barry, the only reason why you consider Obama to be a “Left Winger”, is because you have been sucked into the Fox News Bizzaro world: where the sky is green, grass is blue and there are two equally valid sides to the “controversies” over evolution and global warming. In the FNC Bizzaro world, what used to be “The Center” is now considered “The Left”, while what used to be “The Left” is now considered “The Far Left”

    This is because we have suffered through three decades of the Right Wing using its economic power (Ruper Murdoch, Robert Mellon Scaife , Koch Brothers) to push the Overton Window further and further right.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

    The proof is in the fact that so many former Reagan supporters and officials, have become Democrats. Discourse in the US has been pushed so far to the right, that Ronald Reagan’s Secretary of the Navy (Jim Webb) has become a Democratic Senator (VA).

    Back in the late 1970s, Howard Jarvis, Proposition 13 and Ronald Reagan were at the forefront of a Right-Wing revolution that has sought to destroy everything that the New Deal stood for. They have succeeded in repealing all meaningful reform in the financial markets (with the inevitable consequences). They have also been trying to destroy Social Security and it looks like they are finally gaining traction on that objective (cf, the catfood commission).

    I’ve knows some left wingers and some of them have been friends of mine.

    Obama is no “Left Winger”.

  127. BenTiger Says:

    I have to say a few words about this. Have been around but never post anything. The ironic thing about these corporate interests is that it is NOT good for these corporations themselves in the long run. Think about Big Three Auto. Maybe they are doing better for the next quarter but they may be digging the grave for themselves and drag the country with them. It’s happening in the finance/’investment’ industries now. At this rate, pretty soon, only bot is trading.

  128. Rescission Says:

    You are omitting small business from the argument. Include small businesses with the individual and you will have it correct.
    Case in point:
    From 2003-2004: Firms with less than 20 employees created 1.6 million new jobs, while firms with over 500 employees shrank by 214,000 jobs.
    Over 50% of Americans work for small businesses.
    Over 75% of all the U.S. Businesses are self employed INDIVIDUALS with no employees.
    Here’s the stinker: Small businesses, who create all the jobs and real growth don’t have a voice in Washington, and they don’t have lobbyists. They can’t send big bucks to politicians, and they don’t have time to lobby, because they have to meet payroll next week.
    You must differentiate small businesses from the word “corporation” when you make these arguments.

  129. polizeros Says:

    I’m thinking we need a good old-fashioned American-as-apple-pie populist revolt.

    Brilliant post. Thank you.

  130. Andy T Says:

    Yeah, Screw all those corporations.

    We should pass a law that either a) dissolves all corporations; or b) takes away all the rights and obligations of corporate entities. Corporations and the people who manage/work for the corporations have accomplished nothing worthwhile anyway. Screw ‘em.

    They’re a bunch of greedy bastards who only have their own self-interests at heart–much different than the altruistic readers of The Big Picture who are more “fair-minded” and put the interest of society first.

  131. Arequipa01 Says:

    From the article on Rousseff:

    “this former leader of the resistance to a Western-backed military dictatorship (which tortured her)”

    AT- this is for you: http://asshatsforjesus.blogspot.com/

  132. Andy T Says:

    Also, we ought to pass a law that limits what employees of Corporations can or cannot vote on (or lobby for). So, employees of firms should not be able vote on any local ballot measure involving a Corporation–because you know they’ll own vote for things favorable to their firm. Also, employees of corporations should be banned from making any political donations of any kind or be able to work for a political campaign.

  133. Andy T Says:

    “Corporate ability to extend copyright far beyond what original protections amounts to a taking of public works for private corporate usage”

    “Patent protections are continually weakened. Deep pocketed corporations can usurp inventions almost at will”

    Yeah. When a “Corporation” invents something the patent life should be shorter than when an individual patents something. That’s only fair, because you know that a “Corporation” will do evil and try to maximize profits while a humble individual will have “fairer” ambitions for the patent.

  134. TakBak04 Says:

    Late to this post..but Yves at Naked Capitalism had one yesterday that goes along with your post in many ways. The comment from “Jessica” over at “NC” is very interesting. Do we have so much “DIVERSITY” today that our interests are scattered. “Diversity of Choice” in who we are? Yves had 269 Comments to her post…all except a handful were interesting reads… This post from “Jessica” stood out to me because it’s an interesting perspective that anecdotaly…I’ve observed in my experience the last few decades.
    ————-
    Naked Capitalism—-Yves Smith
    Sunday, September 26, 2010
    Why is There No Political Outlet for Anger on the Left These Days?

    Poll ratings show approval levels for the major political perps, meaning the President, Congress, each of the two major parties, at levels so low as to be tantamount to loathing. But while the Tea Party has become a force to be reckoned with by tapping into this wellspring of discontent, those on the left who are unhappy with the lump of coal the Administration and the Democratic party have put in their stocking have no outlet.
    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/09/why-is-there-no-political-outlet-for-anger-on-the-left-these-days.html 269 Comments
    ————

    Jessica Says:
    September 26, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    Deep structural changes that our understanding has not fully kept up with.
    1) Since the right wing basically is offering a return to what America was before the breaking-apart of the 1960s, they don’t need to understand. A left wing pointing to the way forward does.
    2) The right wing is actually aligned with core groups within the current power structure and always has that wind at its back (money and media). The left wing has that wind in its face.
    Some of the structural changes:
    - Job insecurity and increased competition for real jobs. “Dropping out” was based on the ease of dropping back in later.
    - Rise of student debt peonage (as many have pointed out) But if this were as big a factor as my gut tells me it is, then why isn’t there a strong youth left in European countries where university tuition is free? More freedom yes, but it is not exactly the 60s in Scandanavia either.
    - Fractioning of experience with shift from Big 3 networks to micro-media. Even the “mainstream” has become more like a river delta with many parallel streams than a single big wide river.
    - General intensification of competitiveness in ordinary life as dissolving of life-long employment and clear career tracks opens up more possibilities both for advance and for being stepped on and left behind.
    - Split between working class political interests and middle class political interests from the 1960s.
    - Outsourcing and renewed immigration in the US (was unusually low from early 1920s until late 1960s) and rise of immigration to Europe instead of from Europe.
    - More full incorporation of formerly semi-independent power structures. The big 3 networks in the US used to be a semi-independent part of the power structure. Now they are direct corporate puppets. Universities were partial refuges and incubators of alternatives but are now corporate vocational and research centers.
    - Commodification of youth culture and incorporation into corporate structure. Rebellion against social structure converted into rebellion against uncoolness. Partially due to dissolving of much of former sexual restrictions on the middle class. Testosteronal “smash the state” becomes “fight for the right to party”.
    – The left in the 1960s was aided by the rise of youth culture, which was fairly new. (I think youth have separate music from the rest of society starts roughly with the young Frank Sinatra in the 40s.) Now “youth culture” too has split into smaller fragments.
    - Maslowian alienation: Middle-class left tends to frame issues in terms of social justice but have hard time making straight out economic demands. A “chicken in every pot” has become “health insurance for the uninsured” rather than “free post-secondary education/training”.

    Generally, diversity has broken up solidarity based on uniformities. Developing a higher level solidarity based on uniqueness rather than uniformities is a difficult task. (Which the right-wing does not face because it is by instinct pro-uniformity)

  135. favjr Says:

    Corporations, unions, and other associations existed in only a very limited way when the U.S. was founded.

    We could go a long way to restoring some balance if we had an amendment to the Constitution that stated: “None of the amendments to the Constitution apply to non-natural persons.”

    But I’m afraid its a pipe dream in today’s environment.

  136. NATHAN KOPPEL And ASHBY JONES Says:

    Securities Ruling Limits Claims of Fraud

    The U.S. Supreme Court has given multinational companies a powerful new legal defense against fraud claims made by some of their investors.

    The weapon for companies grows out of a June ruling that limits fraud claims in U.S. courts by private investors who bought shares on foreign stock exchanges.

    The Supreme Court decided Australian shareholders who had purchased stock overseas in an Australian bank couldn’t bring securities-fraud claims in a U.S. court. In order to avoid “incompatibility with the applicable laws of other countries,” U.S. securities laws should govern only domestic stock purchases, the court concluded.

    The ruling could save millions of dollars for companies such as BP PLC, which faces securities suits over the Gulf oil spill, securities attorneys said. A representative for BP didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment about the merits of the claims.

    At the same time, it means investors such as U.S. public pension funds could see limited recoveries in a number of pending securities actions, including against Toyota Motor Corp. related to its handling of sudden acceleration claims. A representative for Toyota didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment about the merits of the claims.

    Judges have been interpreting the ruling in Morrison v. National Australia Bank Ltd. as preventing fraud claims in U.S. courts by any investor—either from the U.S. or abroad—who purchased shares on foreign exchanges.

  137. The left right paradigm is over: It’s you vs. corporations | Politics in the Zeros Says:

    [...] Ritholtz sums it up well. Be sure to read the whole thing The new dynamic, however, has moved past the old Left Right paradigm. We now live in an era defined by increasing Corporate influence and authority over the individual. These two “interest groups” – I can barely suppress snorting derisively over that phrase – have been on a headlong collision course for decades, which came to a head with the financial collapse and bailouts. Where there is massive concentrations of wealth and influence, there will be abuse of power. The Individual has been supplanted in the political process nearly entirely by corporate money, legislative influence, campaign contributions, even free speech rights. [...]

  138. Tom K Says:

    @BR

    Okay, I’ll admit “vast” was an overstatement, but the fact remains House Republicans voted 108 to 91 against the bank bailouts while House Democrats voted 172 to 63 in favor of the bank bailouts. May I say the Democrats favored bailing out he banks vastly more than the Republicans?

    My quibble was with your “It was a right-winger who bailed out all of the…” First, I didn’t know Bush was our King, and second, I didn’t know Bush was a “right winger”. I guess he was the kind of right winger who increases the federal budget, subsidizes agriculture and transportation, adds a new Medicare drug benefit, and increases federal intervention in education and housing.

    Why is it so hard to admit that real fiscal conservatives do not support handouts to corporations?

    But making corporations the bogeyman for all the nation’s ills is not only silly, but isn’t supported by the evidence. If corporations hold so much weight over the electorate, why are corporate tax rates in the U.S. amongst the highest in the world? And why was the 2009 edition of the Code of Federal Regulations the largest ever, encompassing 163,333 pages in 226 individual books?

  139. retrogrouch Says:

    “Keynes vs Hayek? Friedman vs Krugman? Those are the wrong intellectual debates. Its you vs. Tony Hayward, BP CEO, You vs. Lloyd Blankfein, Goldman Sachs CEO. And you are losing . . .”

    Except of course the Hayek and Friedman were the corporate voices and their message was spread as much as it was because it supported the corporate rape of our economy. Through endowed chairs and programs and corporate PR their school rose to what Galbraith would call the “conventional wisdom”. And then let run to its logical conclusion.

  140. mengyo Says:

    Is it more profitable to give more of the story to “Where there is massive concentrations of wealth and influence, there will be abuse of power”?

    As apparently implied in the story it is not the winner in “Liberals versus Conservatives on a variety of issues” (as an example) that leads up to the current ‘You versus the Corporation’ paradigm today.

    Rather, one should be alert to abuse of power winning the day. Power need not be raw or financial (eg the sickening Washington lobbies) power. In fact, a more articulate but intellectually dishonest Liberal/Conservative/etc. would abuse his ability to out-argue his less articulate but honest opponent – or, if a more graphic illustration is needed, think of the dishonest but more ‘educated’ mini-bond pusher versus the comparatively ignorant but trusting buying individual (a trust y friend/relative, say). Certainly, there are many varieties of subtle abuse of power in this world, more than we (less subtle) are aware of.

    The other thing, then, would be to take a close look when there is massive concentration of wealth and influence on the assumption that there is abuse of power precisely for the purpose of such massive concentrations. Of course, massive concentration of wealth and influence itself is, in turn, the means to abuse of power.

    We look for where the gravy train is coming FROM – and there should be some surprises to see to whom some such grubby fingers belong to.

  141. lovejoy Says:

    A bohemian touch. The Kinks “living on a Thin Line”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvdBrbJnve8

    Change the words from England to USA and the picture is painted …

    “All the stories have been told
    Of kings [Presidents] and days of old,
    But there’s no USA now.
    All the wars that were won and lost
    Somehow don’t seem to matter very much anymore.
    All the lies we were told,
    All the lies of the people running round,
    They’re castles [homes]have burned [been foreclosed]

    …..

    Now another century nearly gone,
    What are we gonna leave for the young?
    What we couldn’t do, what we wouldn’t do,
    It’s a crime, but does it matter?
    Does it matter much, does it matter much to you?
    Does it ever really matter?
    Yes, it really, really matters.

    ….

    Now another leader [Obama] says
    Break their hearts and break some heads.
    Is there nothing we can say or do?
    Blame the future on the past,
    Always lost in blood and guts.
    And when they’re gone, it’s me and you.
    Now I see change,
    But inside we’re the same as we ever were.”

  142. Brett Tibbitts Says:

    I agree that it is no longer a left/right thing. But only a liberal would see the dynamic as a corporation vs. individual dynamic.

    The new dynamic is between those fighting for fiscal and monetary responsibility in this country and those wanting to continue the party of spending other peoples’ money.

    If you look throughout history you will see that empires end when they devalue their currency to police the world or to hand out more goodies to the populace to keep them supportive. That is exactly what we have been doing for decades, with the last two administrations exemplars of this decline.

    And the biggest problem looking at history is that the moral fiber of the nation declines right along with the currency and you end up with mediocracy instead of the meritocracy that brought the nation to power in the first place.

    ~~~

    BR: Um, no, you are still defining the debate in terms Leftist Rightist terms.

  143. Alex Says:

    Fantastic piece!!! I agree 100%.

    Not sure if you’ll agree or not, but I think religious fundamentalism is another false dichotomy:

    The Founding Fathers Weren’t Anti-Islam

    I’m Jewish, but I don’t like fundamentalism of any flavor …

    (My essay touches on the left-right-paradigm being over, as well).

    Regards,
    Alex.

  144. ToNYC Says:

    If you really wish to stimulate the economy while at the same time reduce unemployment, you could try declaring a tax holiday on small businesses with less than five employees not including immediate families.

  145. countziggenpuss Says:

    Holy Christ, the nitwits are out again………….

    “Why is it so hard to admit that real fiscal conservatives do not support handouts to corporations?”

    So where exactly are these “real fiscal conservatives”??? I was born in 1976 and the only “conservatives” of which I am aware have exploded the deficit – see United States debt 1980-1992 & 2000-2008.

    “If corporations hold so much weight over the electorate, why are corporate tax rates in the U.S. amongst the highest in the world?”

    Ummmmmmm……… of the G8 & BRIC countries, the U.S. has the 4th lowest effective corporate tax – or as conservatives call it, “amongst the highest in the world.” (http://doingbusiness.org/documents/Paying_Taxes_2009.pdf#page=23)

  146. Goldsteve Says:

    Read ‘The Shock Doctrine’ by Naomi Klien for a full history of the development and implementation of Corporatsim both globally and nationally. It is truly scarier than anything Stephen King can dream up.
    http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine

  147. Jim67545 Says:

    Late to party. Read comments (mostly.) Folks, corporations are not some intelligent creature (evil or otherwise.) Legally they are a non-natural person. So, the corporation itself has no brain and cannot act. It is the representatives of the corporation (Board, Execs, employees) who act.
    Within the corporation is a number of groups with their own set of interests and motives. The Board members provide some (usually poorly focused) safeguard of the interests of the stockholders laced with self-interest consisting of their compensation, perks, status, etc. Execs work to protect themselves, the stockholders and the employees (more or less in that order.) Employees do their job as well as they can for self-satisfaction and to put food on the table.
    You have to peel away the corporate hide and see what is going on inside. That is what will send that dumb, brainless thing called a corporation in one direction or another.

  148. mbotta Says:

    capitalism being the ideology in which production resources are owned by the few, it is hardly surprising that our political system is optimised to take advantage of the concentration of capital resulting from this skewed ownership of resources.

    you vs. the corporations? it’s the haves vs. the have-nots. capitalists vs. riffraff. and you are not the capitalist in that equation.

  149. ownahome Says:

    Try True Globalization at trueglobalization.com, a book about this very subject.

  150. garrisongold Says:

    I think the entire problem is one of “shared pain”.

    I know it is not as simple as “those greedy corporations are bad guys who shipped our jobs overseas to line their pockets”.

    Corporate marketing departments and strategic planning departments project sales revenue at various price points along a price continuum. Given the fact that an overpriced item or service visa vi the competition, means diminishing revenues, they are forced to deliver highest quality/lowest cost at a given market price.

    This leads to operating cost efficiency analysis such as “buy vs build”. Clearly, buying from China vs building in the U.S. has proven to be the strategy of choice (albeit forced in many cases).

    Civil service workers have continued to receive healthy rises in wages and benefits and have not experienced much of the pain borne by those in the private sector.

    But the fact remains, this process of buying from S.E. Asia and other emerging markets is a limited short term strategy that focuses on next quarter or annual results, over consideration of the long term damage to the U.S. economy. The result is the middle class from the private sector caught in a squeeze, with diminishing opportunities, declines in real income, spiraling national debt and more and more people sliding into poverty.

    For global corporations and people working in the public sector, there is no problem. S & P corporations are earning record profits and people in the public sector continue to look forward to a comfortable retirement and many just feel that if their is a fiscal problem we should just tax the public with higher rates or borrow money to fund any shortages.

    Until we have shared pain, such as local and state governments filing bankruptcy, and policies to squeeze S & P 500 global corporate returns, we are going to be divided. I don’t say that out of vindictiveness, only out of the belief that many people’s perceptual screen filters out data and ideas in such a way that there own welfare comes first. Its just human nature.

  151. TMock Says:

    RE: tesky’s questions – “I have a question: HOW did this happen? Is this simply due to the rise of corporations since the nineteenth century? Power corrupts? Or perhaps a lack of campaign finance reform? Was the corporate takeover of the government a collusive effort? Most importantly, what is the remedy?”

    Balance in Contentious Times
    November 2008 – http://www.sldi.org/newService/SLDINov2008.html

    In what surely will be noted as one of the most remarkable stretches in history, we have had a collapse in the housing market, which triggered a meltdown in our financial systems, which has now created a slowdown in economies around the world — all in short order. With all these financial woes weighing on investor confidence, I couldn’t help thinking of what President Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

    “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”

    Fast forward to 2008, specifically to former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan’s recent testimony to a House Oversight Committee hearing on the roles and responsibilities of federal regulators in the current financial crisis. He acknowledged to the hostile panel of questioners that the crisis exposed flaws in his thinking about the working of the free market system, telling the Committee that his belief that the banks would be more prudent in their lending practices because of the need to protect their shareholders had been proven wrong by the crisis.

    This “once-in-a-century credit tsunami” has come to a head just weeks before the electorate goes to the polls to pick both local candidates for office and a new president. Whichever party wins will make history as well. The barrage of extraordinary events makes for fascinating times and presents a rare opportunity for strategic long term investment, according to seasoned experts such as Warren Buffett. But politically, it can be treacherous sledding, as personal angst and partisan fervor are unleashed full blast. In his Farewell Address, George Washington was particularly adamant in warning the nation that this “spirit of party” was “not to be encouraged” because it was – “A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.”

    T. Boone Pickens, Al Gore and the Sierra Club are creating strange bedfellows and setting an example of non-partisan collaboration by discussing the combination of domestic wind power and natural gas in an aggressive US domestic energy plan. In a related effort to provide a bridge from the current inefficient, carbon-heavy electric grid toward more sustainable development, SLDI-member HBH Gas Systems is partnering with land developers nationwide to provide central community propane gas systems – bringing clean-burning gas fuel to communities where it was otherwise not available.

    Innovative collaboration is the answer. See the SLDI Pilot Sustainable Land Development Best Practices Model – http://www.sldi.org/images/Research/sldi%20in%20focus%20-%20world%5C%27s%20first%20sldbp%20system%20introduced.pdf

    Your participation and comments are welcome.

    Sustainable Land Development International
    http://www.SLDI.org

  152. Patriley Says:

    This article is spot on to this issue, but consider a further possibility. The multinational corporations are controlled by some of the same “shadow power” figures that hang around with the people that control the large investmentand central banks, the statist media, etc. In other words, the global government power elites that own the politicians and are the true authors of the stampede to one-worldism. It is no longer a “conspiracy theory” to say that the true power is in the hands of a small elite cadre that elect the visible ones with their money. Their money, of course, is the derived in unlimited quantities by means of the franchise to create all of the money from nothing, to control the quantity and cost of money for the masses. The Demopublicans are purely to placate that masses by allowing them the illusion that they have some hand in government through the electoral process.

  153. daf48 Says:

    Kurt Vonnegut called this in 1979. He said the real political parties were the winners and the losers, and the fix was in. The republicans and democrats both part of the winners. Social Darwinism is back in vogue.

  154. jal64 Says:

    One needs to include the unions in all this. Especially the national unions such as Teachers, SEIU etc. At the state and local level the public unions impact the public debate as much as any corporation, if not more. Plus they are more damaging to the local economy.

  155. Daedelus Says:

    Vonnegut in 1979. Vaclav Havel in 1991, in too many articles and interviews to count after the Velvet Revolution. This disintegration of left versus right has been the trend since the end of the cold war. It’s the totalitarianism of consumerism — all that is left of our humanity is our ability to consume and the value that corporations can derive from that consumption.

    There must be something better we can build around here than that.

  156. Spectre Says:

    @ Apinak et al,

    The trouble with governmental systems that place humans in a position of “power” over other humans, is that they always are and forever will be suspect to corruption and failure. This holds true for every known system of government, whether it is democratic or dictatorial. Think critically. Can a dictatorship be freer than a democracy…? There are no absolutes in this world, but with the right human in power, why can’t a dictatorship be freer? Let’s change the question and apply it to democracies. Can a democracy be less-free than a dictatorship? The answer that results applies the same logic – with the right people in power, why can’t a democracy be less-free?

    Would you rather live in a country with a dictator that completely defines and strictly enforces property rights, and allows the people to carry-out whatever endeavors they wish so long as they don’t violate other peoples property rights -OR- would you rather live in a country where officials are democratically elected, yet only serve their self and special interests? Admittedly, the country with a dictator may be reductio ad absurdem, but it hinges on the point I’m trying to highlight: that we humans by nature are imperfect creatures of folly. We place our own individual trust in other humans based on human-constructs like left vs. right, etc. Humans are not unlike their wild counterparts in nature. We are organisms seeking to maintain and/or ehance our own individual survival, given the system with which we exist. That is any organism’s endgame -whether they are conscious of it or not. However, the means by which humans use to achieve that endgame merits critical appraisal at the very least.

    What are the means by which humans in positions of power over other humans, have already used or are going to use, to maintain and/or enhance their own individual/familial survival on Earth? Should humans trust other humans and their constructs so willingly? Human actions are purposeful, but we can not know the purpose of every man’s action nor the course of future events according to the knowledge of today. Obeserve however, that man’s achilles heel tends to be related to that of which he put’s his trust. Trust in other humans (collective government) is at historical highs while trust in oneself (self-government) is at historical lows. Could there be reversion to the mean on the horizon? It’s anybody’s speculation at this point.

  157. Us vs. The Corporations | Says:

    [...] article referenced is The Left Right Paradigm is Over: It’s You vs. Corporations. The essential point for me is the age-old conflict of greed vs. the common good. And, as history [...]

  158. stevenjs Says:

    “P.S.
    @stevenjs – the new word for tyranny is communitarianism -
    read Occult Technocracy of Power too”

    @ParadigmLinks — are you kidding? Communitarianism is the hope of the future, here and globally, the well reasoned remedy to socialist state failures, and the death knell of Finance Capitalist “Illuminati” bogeymen. There’s nothing occult or secret or conspiritorial about these non-governmental power brokers, controlling behind the scenes. Toto pulled back the curtain, along with Marx, a very long time ago.

    Why this nutty PS to your fine comment?

  159. embeddedsurfer Says:

    The word “corporation” is a boogie man word of the left who hate capitalism. It blinds them that the real enemy is not the corporation concept but its use by powerful financial elites who only use crony capitalism to concentrate power. What we need is de-centralization of all power centers.

    His premise is correct that the left/right is a problem but it is not necessarily obsolete as seen through the responders to this post who just cannot let go of their core left right beliefs. It is more a polarizing distraction so that the financial elite can do their dirty work playing them off each other.

    Here is a non-economic issue that the Republicans and Democrats make no difference on.

    What happened to repealing the Patriot Act? Now in power the Democrats don’t feel Bush went far enough. Get ready for facebook and skype monitoring.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100927/ap_on_hi_te/us_internet_wiretaps

    Those in power want to keep an eye on all of us to prevent any opposition to them.

  160. monimngr Says:

    I disagree. The battle is the Establishment against the individual. Sadly this is a battle we are losing with no hope in sight. The establishment is made up of the big corporations and banks, the MSM, politicians and bureaucrats , and the public employee unions. Hang on to gold, guns and food and get ready for a long ugly stretch.

  161. Sauron Says:

    Dougc nailed it: I miss Communism. It made the elites behave.

    (Tongue in cheek) Treat corporations as people. 1 vote each, no getting to write legislation,3x and you’re out. They have to pay duty at the border like me. No more free trade just for them. They can be drafted. No tax write-offs for company cars, no limited liability. I’m sure there are more absurdities.

  162. wunsacon Says:

    embedded,

    I’m inclined to believe the following (from your link): “She said the changes would not expand law enforcement authority and would involve legally authorized intercepts on calls or e-mails sent by terrorists or other criminals. The changes would allow companies to respond quickly to wiretap requests from local, state and federal authorities.” That blurb is consistent with my own expectations/understanding as well. I.e., governments must still obtain a warrant. This new legislation gives the government the same power it had with our phone systems. (Nevertheless, I agree with your general criticism, even if this one link wasn’t a great example.)

    >> The word “corporation” is a boogie man word of the left who hate capitalism.

    “The left” does not generally hate capitalism, even if some of them might say something like that (probably because either they’re not explaining themselves fully or you both haven’t agreed on definitions). What most of them hate is probably a paraphrasing of what you said in your second sentence (“[capitalism]‘s use by powerful financial elites who only … concentrate power”).

  163. Left/Right PushMePullYou | The Big Picture Says:

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  164. jessica Says:

    The most encouraging thing I have seen in a long while is this discussion and a similar one at Naked Capitalism the other day.
    I see both Barry Ritholtz and Yves Smith as bright and honest inquirers into the question of what is going on here. Both have been willing to look truthfully at the level of dysfunction that we are facing. Even when that leads toward the possibility that both the problems and the necessary solutions are so deep that they and we will need to let go of treasured beliefs.
    I think that the most significant factor at work right now is that no one actually knows how to fix things. Things have changed so much in the past decades that even the best intellectual models and concepts we have to work with have been outstripped. We could fix some of the symptoms, but do not understand yet how to address the root causes.
    I agree with Barry that the left-right dichotomy now serves more to obscure reality than to unveil it. But it is also perfectly human to hold onto it for dear life precisely because we don’t have a clear replacement, yet. We can see some of the details. Obviously, honesty and transparency in key places are indispensable, but currently sorely lacking. So too accountability. But what we do not have, yet, is a vision that ties those together with an understanding of why those are lacking – plus a lot more – and in a way that is coherent enough that the vision itself can help large numbers of people work together to achieve it.
    In saying that it is really corporations versus the individual, Barry has pointed to exactly where the problem lies. We are being picked off one by one, or to be more accurate in small clumps, and played off against each other.
    The solution is that we find a way to come together so that it is corporations vs. everyone else. Or more precisely, the parasitic wing of the current system vs. those working with the new possibilities that we as humans have brought into being.
    Whatever way we do come together will need to be new. Because in the past, people came together based on the ways that they were the same. And we have become much too diverse for that. Not just in the obvious ways, such as racially. We have a vast array of different entertainments, hobbies, interests, job skills. We are more individuated psychologically. That is what we need to build on.

  165. JWPML Says:

    THERE ARE THREE THINGS WE ALL MUST DO
    #1 PAY OFF ALL DEBT
    #2 REMOVE ALL MONIES FROM BANKS USE ONLY CREDIT UNIONS
    #3 CANCEL ALL CORPORATE CREDIT CARDS

    These people have been inslaving us for 50 years. They are the Al Capones & John Dillingers of our time.
    We must stop doing business with criminals

    We know who these people are. They own the polititations and they own us.

  166. What did you do in the War Mommy? « The Confluence Says:

    [...] don’t think so.  It’s been for too profitable for the media and political classes.  However, Barry Ritholz asks us to shift our paradigms and move to a new us v them frame. It’s now all about us v corporations. Oh, btw, I know that you know the humans are losing. The [...]

  167. JerseyCynic Says:

    Left/Right — both sides of the same coin. They just take turns testing our willful ignorance

    Well said Jessica. Because of our extreme diversity, we all need a new way to come together.

    We need to stop debating about all of the different points of view out there and

    FOCUS ON FACTS VERSUS LIES and not the illusion

    Gekko: It’s not a question of enough, pal. It’s a Zero Sum game – somebody wins, somebody loses. Money itself isn’t lost or made, it’s simply transferred – from one perception to another. Like magic. This painting here? I bought it ten years ago for sixty thousand dollars. I could sell it today for six hundred. The illusion has become real, and the more real it becomes, the more desperately they want it. Capitalism at its finest.

  168. hldboo Says:

    The point that you haven’t made is that our President is intentionally fostering Corporatism. His ideal is to have four closely regulated large banks for all banking and not more than two dozen closely regulated corporations for all other industry and services. That way he would have complete control over the entire country.

  169. Make Them Accountable / The foxes are destroying the henhouse Says:

    [...] Barry Ritholtz: [...]

  170. davecardin Says:

    Is The Corporate Party OF, BY And FOR The PEOPLE?

    I think we have become a little less apt to vote on party lines because Grandpa’s dad and his son and all the uncles, etc. voted ALWAYS for the Democrats or Republican parties. To break “family” traditions has been difficult. Independent thinking was unheard of, you do what “everyone” ALWAYS does, vote THIS way. How to change tradition is the old fashion way, EDUCATION. Tell the people the truth over and over until they get the idea that CHANGE is needed and wanted AND THEY CAN do something about it. EDUCATING the masses is what the political machines of the 2 parties are good at, they own most of the media outlets.
    But now you look at your bank account and hours worked and realize a pattern of more going out and less coming in and you see others making more money a month than you do in a year or more and you must start thinking about the WHY? Thats what these articles are about, EDUCATING the masses.

    Doesn’t anyone understand the Michael Milken’s testing the grounds to which high government can allow trillions of “fake” dollars to dictate the economy in an extremely SHORT period of time.

    Fake appraisals and lots and lots of “loot” going into only a small certain percentage of skillful money managers pockets. It happened again, millions of homes magically worth 2-4 times their true value and cashed in. Those TRILLIONS of dollars went into someones pocket and it wasn’t the “dumb” homeowner who “cashed in”. They SPENT it as fast as they could and the funnel it went into was very small. Corporate greed can turn a switch, change QUICKLY an interest rate or two and sing consumer confidence, etc. But did all those trillions of dollars go BACK into the economy or into select pockets i.e. Petroleum, Banking and Insurance. Check out the top 10 richest companies in the world. Two of them don’t even PRODUCE a product, they are the middle man or SERVICE. Service your debts, charge fee’s for access to your own money, charge you $700 to see the doctor (deductible, etc

    *Snip*

  171. lagreider Says:

    Great article, but it should be titles “You Against The Government. All the bukket points have to do with the evils of government largess

  172. JerseyCynic Says:

    “Democracy is the objective of those who aspire to power
    and a stone-in-the-shoe for those who have it”
    ~(?)

    “Those who aspire to power are precisely those who should not have it.”
    ~(?)

  173. MinnItMan Says:

    “I think that the most significant factor at work right now is that no one actually knows how to fix things. ”

    Isn’t it obvious? “You just get under the hood and fix it.” At least 19% of the “public” seemed to agree with that “plan” back when. I would venture that a large portion of the rest thought is was easy, too, they just disagreed about the what and the how, but there was wide-spread agreement that those who disagreed were enemies, mental defectives or outright criminals.

    The “I don’t actually know how to fix things” party is very small. Descartes has a great line when he says (translated and paraphased): “Common sense is the most fairly distributed quality in the world – no one wants more of it than he/she already has.”

    I just watched the Arthur Jensen lecture to/reaming of Howard Beale from Network. The only thing that’s different from 1976 is size of a “big” little screen. *

    “We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that perfect world in which there’s no war or famine, oppression or brutality — one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused.”

    * IT&T and Union Carbide, the two now-obscure references, have perhaps the most interesting stories.

    Ultimately, the question is whether we are headed towards Kant’s “perpetual peace,” or Nietzsche’s “Last Man.” Or, are they saying the same thing? The ultimate debate between right and left, IMHO, which only the neo-cons and critical theorists really get, revolves around this question.

  174. donyocham Says:

    Glad to see you finally picked up on this most vital theme. However, why not have the courage to refer to the corporate/government dynamic as Fascism, which is what it is. Indeed, more people are becoming aware of this dynamic, but there are still an overwhelming number of useful idiots (well intentioned progressives and religious conservatives) to support the left/right paradigm.

  175. The Left Right Paradigm is Over: Its You vs. Corporations | Irritate The State Says:

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  176. tofu mary» Blog Archive » Currency wars, QE2, tax money pits, state bailouts, corporations vs individuals. Says:

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  177. When you’re in three dimensions, Left and Right don’t tell the whole story; or, Not quite as overlooked as he thinks « Blog on the Run: Reloaded Says:

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  178. marksf Says:

    “Patent protections are continually weakened. Deep pocketed corporations can usurp inventions almost at will;”

    You have got this backwards. Patents put the advantage squarely in hands of the richest corporations. A majority of patents awarded over the last decade are completely frivolous, especially in the area of software. Large companies like Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, Oracle have laid claim to much of the “neat ideas”, and claimed it as their “property”.

    Large corporations can afford large legal teams to shake down small companies. Even the potential threat is an extreme disincentive to innovate, because the patents and the process are so vague. What really happens is that the largest companies run the show, and everybody else is shut out.

  179. Mark R Says:

    more fake debates

    http://www.oilempire.us/fake-debate.html

  180. Phil T Says:

    U.S. House Unites to Push China on Yuan as Frustration Mounts

    Following on from your “We the people Vs the Corporatocracy theme”, which my posts have long proposed, now we get into a trade war with China so that Congress can further obfuscate the issues and protect their Corporate masters?

    The fact is that most US Corporations pay single digit tax rates because of transfer pricing, trademark and licensing agreements etc through tax havens. The value added in China, other than salaries and wages, is very small because all the profits accrue to MNC’s again using these financial tricks. MNC’s SHOULD be the target of the anger because it is they who are sending all the manufacturing jobs overseas, creating cycle high profit margins and cycle low tax rates in the process.

    Kind regards and keep up the great work,

    Philip

  181. PBH Says:

    Great job ! This is absolutely spot on in my opinion “We The People” must find a way to organize on all levels of society, to demand through action that our voice be heard. Easier said than done I know. Only when the voice of millions of Americans united demand change will change occur. Even then the obstacles will be great but we must continue to fight…..

  182. kaipan Says:

    Obama’s name has been mentioned only 10-15 times. That’s amazing because the real problem the US faces is the widespread gullibility, naivete, or stupidity on part of the American people.

    Like silly sheep, they follow any goat that will lead them.

    It was obvious from the beginning that Obama was a fraud. He was nothing more than a sock puppet controlled by the same people who controlled Bush, Clinton, Bush, Carter, ad infinitum.

    Obama was chosen to be President simply to give the masses an illusion that change was going to happen. A black President was “change” but only in the color of the wrapping. Obama was not going to change anything. He simply gave the US rulers breathing room from the international and domestic attacks it was under from the policies of the Bush Administration.

    Obama is the traditional black patsy. He will inherit the blame for the (organized) default of the US dollar; he will inherit the blame for the loss of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan; he will inherit the blame for a war with Iran, and he will inherit the blame for a war with China.

    When the American people cannot take it anymore, the sock puppet master will give the gullible masses a woman President. If that does not work, they will install the first homosexual President. By that time, we will see the collapse of the US.

  183. Market Talk » Blog Archive » The Political Fault Line has Shifted Says:

    [...] up in all manner of other things. Still, this week’s must read is Barry Ritholtz’s post at The Big Picture, “The Left-Right Paradigm is Over: It’s You Vs. Corporations.” [...]

  184. AnotherBigelow Says:

    “The Supreme Court ruled on an obscure taxation issue in the Santa Clara County vs. The Union Pacific Railroad case, but the Recorder of the court – a man named J. C. Bancroft Davis, himself formerly the president of a small railroad – wrote into his personal commentary of the case (known as a headnote) that the Chief Justice had said that all the Justices agreed that corporations are persons.

    And in so doing, he – not the Supreme Court, but its clerical recorder – inserted a statement that would change history and give corporations enormous powers that were not granted by Congress, not granted by the voters, and not even granted by the Supreme Court. Davis’s headnote, which had no legal standing, was taken as precedent by generations of jurists (including the Supreme Court) who followed and apparently read the headnote but not the decision.”
    http://www.thomhartmann.com/articles/2001/12/restore-democracy-first-abolish-corporate-personhood

  185. ToNYC Says:

    Gekko: It’s not a question of enough, pal. It’s a Zero Sum game – somebody wins, somebody loses. Money itself isn’t lost or made, it’s simply transferred – from one perception to another. Like magic. This painting here? I bought it ten years ago for sixty thousand dollars. I could sell it today for six hundred. The illusion has become real, and the more real it becomes, the more desperately they want it. Capitalism at its finest.

    This gold, this stock, this bond, this commodity…..price appreciation means you won on that particular go-round on the carousel…doesn’t mean you won, big fish in a little pond, ’till along comes a bigger one.
    The reality is the same. Stuff is stuff, so what do you need it for? The Equity however, and ownership of the IP, does something that only mankind can appreciate and create the new paradigm.

  186. murrayhillincforcongress Says:

    Murray Hill Inc.

    Corporation Running for Congress Runs Radio Ads Supporting Boehner, O’Donnell Opening Salvo in National Media Campaign to Elect Corporate-Friendly Candidates

    Murray Hill Inc., the first corporation to run for Congress following the ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court in the Citizens United v. Federal Elections Commission case, is running ads on Ohio and Delaware radio stations in support of Rep. John Boehner (R-OH) and U.S. Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell (R-DE). The corporate candidate plans to roll out this campaign to other congressional districts and states between now and the November election.

    The 30-second ads hail the candidates for their opposition to the Disclose Act, the legislation sponsored by Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) that would blunt the impact of the Court’s ruling protecting the rights of corporations to make unlimited, undocumented campaign contributions. Murray Hill Inc.’s campaign against Rep. Van Hollen in Maryland’s 8th Congressional District has received national and international press coverage, including a front-page story in the Washington Post, NPR’s All Things Considered, CBS’ Face the Nation, CNBC, the BBC, and the New York Times and Newsweek online, and numerous national and local radio interviews. Murray Hill Inc.’s campaign video has received more than 220,000 views on YouTube.

    “The sinister forces of anti-corporate bigotry are gathering to limit the free-speech spending rights of America’s great corporations,” Murray Hill Inc. said in a statement. “Thankfully, true patriots like John Boehner and Christine O’Donnell know that corporations are people too, and they have an inalienable right to wield unchecked power in our elections.”

    “We often hear that we have the ‘best Congress money can buy,’” says Murray Hill Inc., “but sadly, this ideal remains elusive. Our goal is to elect a corporate Congress whose loyalty and votes can be openly sold, leased and traded. These priorities are important to John Boehner and Christine O’Donnell, and they are important to the American people.”

  187. 5 Key Principles that Unite Populist Progressives and Tea-Party Libertarians « Orwell's Dreams Says:

    [...] First, we must be cognizant that the establishment seeks to divide us by using such vile tactics as labeling progressives as “evil communists” and the Tea Party libertarians as “racists.”  Naturally, old-school civil rights liberals hate racists, and free-market conservative purists hate communists. Can we not see that the establishment knows precisely what buttons to push to keep us from uniting?  These false labels are irrelevant in our current struggle with a tyrannical Corporate State. [...]

  188. Bartlett: To Cut Budget Deficit, Cut Defense | The Big Picture Says:

    [...] previously discussed, your prior concept of Left Right politics are no longer operative . . [...]

  189. NickAthens Says:

    The original concept of capitalism embraced entrepreneurialism. It no longer does.
    So we have big corporations seeming control ove rthe minions as well as small companie swho try to attack them.
    The system needs to evolve to provide offsetting competitive advantages to small companies vis a vis the large ones.
    I always say when elephants battle the mice get trampled.
    I also say there is no defense against a swarm of “bees” and that shoudl be our military strategy as well.
    A society comprised primarily of entrepreneurial “bees” would be an exciting one.
    it is a race beace the unions and government are creating a society of “flies”.

  190. porttownsend Says:

    One of most perceptive and accurate commentaries on our corporate state that I’ve ever read. Thanks.

  191. reachyourmarket Says:

    I disagree on two points:

    1. I think the left/right paradigm is changing and possibly fading, but I think the individual has more power now than ever before. The world is flat and corporations are shaking in their boots over what individuals might say, buy, watch, follow or retweet. If individuals only knew the power they have (and cared), they could wield it for significant change.

    2. Corporations are people. People vs. corporations doesn’t make any sense because corporations = people. Now, do people behave differently when they are in a group or when they are influenced by pressure, money, etc? Sure. But there’s nothing evil about corporations just like there is nothing evil about the internet. Can both be used for evil? Yes. But it’s not the medium or the form of organization that does selfish things. It’s PEOPLE in the organization. It’s PEOPLE on the internet. People are just people. If we’re going to start outlawing or limiting institutions that might encourage or enable people to act selfishly, we’re going to have a lot of work to do. A better approach is to focus on PEOPLE, and insist on raising business, political and cultural leaders who are strong enough to resist temptations to cheat.

  192. davidryal Says:

    I tend to think that rather than replacing the left-right paradigm, individual vs. corporate interests are more like the y-axis to the political x-axis on a 2-d graph. I have a nice diagram with all the major parties and interests on it if you’d like to see. :)

  193. henderson Says:

    How about the trillion-dollars in cash offshore that just wants to come home oh so bad, but the companies refuse to pay the taxes on their offshore earnings (and, I would suspect, put the tax liability into earnings).

    ~3/4 of a trillion for TARP
    ~3/4 of a trillion for stimulus
    ~1.5 trillion for QE1
    ~600 billion for QE2
    ~350 billion to bring back offshore cash to buy back stock and pay bonuses

    Once that is done, and the nests have been feathered, I expect us to hear, and be told, that we need to get used to a new standard of living because there is no more money for handouts.

    Good post, Barry.

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