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Please use the comments to demonstrate your own ignorance, unfamiliarity with empirical data and lack of respect for scientific knowledge. Be sure to create straw men and argue against things I have neither said nor implied. If you could repeat previously discredited memes or steer the conversation into irrelevant, off topic discussions, it would be appreciated. Lastly, kindly forgo all civility in your discourse . . . you are, after all, anonymous.

10 Responses to “Ron Paul’s What If ? ReMixed”

  1. Pure-Water says:

    Phenomenal, thanks for posting. I wish every kid was forced to watch this video so they’d offset some of the BS propaganda they’re continually fed in school.

  2. VennData says:

    Well he got one piece wrong. Obama’s leaving Iraq, left it. So you can ignore this GOP conspiracy lover on that one. as he says, unfounded.

    The BS was from Bush. With two wars to wind down, a massive debt build up that led to a near depression, Obama and the Democratic controlled Congress saved America.

  3. mainetraduh says:

    Thanks for posting this Barry. During the debates in 2008 leading up to the election, Ron Paul often brought up the concept of “blowback”…..

    I wish we would have more conversation about this concept.

  4. David Merkel says:

    Thanks for posting this. I have long been against our foreign policy and our wars.

  5. VD,

    as per usual, you’re a telling reminder that– Right, Wrong, or Indifferent– “Culture is, indeed, a Communicable Disease”
    (for a tangential referent http://search.yippy.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&v%3Aproject=clusty&query=Culture+Epidemiology )
    ~~

    Pure-Water,

    to your point, note

    10. Free Education for All Children in Public Schools. Abolition of Children’s Factory Labor in it’s Present Form. Combination of Education with Industrial Production.

    http://www.conservativeusa.org/10planksofcommunism.htm
    ~~
    mainetraduh,

    note, here http://www.foreignaffairs.com/search/Blowback , even “Foreign Affairs” delves into the *multi-definitional use of “Blowback” ..

  6. harbinger53 says:

    With 50,000 troops left behind in Iraq, I can’t say that VennData has a grasp of the facts! He hasn’t left Iraq, and will likely keep a military prescence there to appease AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee), the most powerful lobby in Washington. America hasn’t been saved either, and I really can’t imagine what VennData has been smoking, drinking, or taking that would make him/her think this. We’ll be in bad shape until we rout the lobbies and corruption out of the District of Columbia.

  7. ronin says:

    @VennData

    Several things you got extremely wrong:

    a) Ron Paul was even more vocal about this issue when Bush was running the warfare/welfare state.

    b) Are we out of Iraq? What about the “non-combative” troops that took offense to be labeled as such? What about the corporate private mercenaries?

    c) He expanded the war in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    d) He’s even managed to make Michael Moore his enemy now….

    Obama might have inherited a mess from Bush, but he’s doing a poor job of navigating this huge ship that we are all on. The theory that you can’t slam on the brakes with a vessel this size is bogus and just political speak for, “screw you world!”

  8. CTB says:

    What if these systems were required to sustain the disproportionately decadent lifestyles we lead?

    I can picture Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men responding with: “I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way.”

  9. photosports says:

    This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

    In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

    We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

    - Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1960

  10. PithyDog says:

    VD,

    Geez, really now, ‘left Iraq’?

    Tell that to the skeleton troops there , who by the way are now in more harms way.

    You would benefit from current historics. The House pulls tight OR opens the purse strings . And we all know who has been in charge of ‘the purse’ for 6 yrs. That would be since 2004, btw.