A must see presentation from the Florida Attorney General’s Office;
(see attached – particularly look at page 27 onwards)


Category: Foreclosures, Legal, Real Estate

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20 Responses to “Florida Attorney General Report on Fraudclosure”

  1. jjay says:

    Nothing will happen to the big banks, now or ever.
    No matter what they do, they pay a fine and steal some more.
    The executives will never be indicted. Ever.
    Only the small fry suffer consequences.
    Small time crooks go to jail.
    Big time crooks go to the country club.

  2. Transor Z says:

    Maybe I should change my handle to “Bogus Assignee.” (p. 42) That’s unintentional comedy gold right there.

  3. obsvr-1 says:

    looks like the final pages from the presentation are missing:

    Move Along Nothing To See Here
    Msg from the US AG, Just pursue as civil action and no criminal indictments
    – we owe these banksters for their generous campaign donations

  4. river says:

    I must have missed the slide where somebody goes to jail, or suffers consequences.

  5. Lugnut says:

    And on the Fraudclosure Indictment Watch Tote Board, lets go Ken for the up to the minute tally on how many indictments have been filed by the AG, thus far. Ken?

    Still holding steady at zero, Jim, back to you.

  6. curbyourrisk says:

    And how many will be filed…. That would be Zero again Jim.

  7. SANETT says:

    Time for a federal antideficiency law…the high foreclosure rates in FL and NV might just have something to do with their lack of that protection for homeowners and lack of forced sanity for lenders. Banks would get the keys in the mail instead of the right to chase people into the civil version of debtors’ prison.

  8. Julia Chestnut says:

    Yes, they should operate within the law — big fat “DUH.” And you are the (drumroll please) — AG. Typically, that’s the guy who goes after people who have been operating outside the law and kicks them in the nuts.

    So where is the slide about how many enforcement actions they have brought, the slides about planned actions, etc?

    Is the Florida AG going to ask them nicely to behave?

    So what he’s saying is that it isn’t that he has no idea that the banks and their fraudclosure buddies are RICO violations incarnate: it’s just that he doesn’t want to get in the way of the “necessary” foreclosures that will “clear the market” and let the banks get back to business as usual – which is fraud that is less public because there are fewer court filings involved.

    Coupled with the story that there is the possibility of indicting NYC sanitation workers with wire fraud for cashing their paychecks if they undertook a voluntary work slow down, this is incredible proof of how far we’ve gone down the road to serfdom.

  9. Stuart says:

    1984 vs. Animal Farm. tough call. Personally I prefer 1776 part II.

  10. Moss says:

    How can any State DA settle with good conscience when these facts are presented? Committing fraud, with intent, most likely premeditated, should not be tolerated in a society where the rule of law is the only effective means of prevention. If these acts are not prosecuted to the fullest extent then we are all guilty as conspirators.

  11. Sechel says:

    I just don’t understand how the rule of law can be ignored here. Individuals need to be prosecuted.
    If we don’t the implication is that the bank’s rights trump individual rights. I don’t think I can recall ever seeing such an egregious example of sweeping the law under the rug.

  12. Winston says:

    Jeebus! The audacity of the corruption makes me numb. Where are the indictments? When are the trials?

  13. Mannwich says:

    They know that too much of our real economy consists of fraud. If they stopped it now, the economy stops too.

  14. DrungoHazewood says:


    Dimtri Orlov, maybe the real Dr. Doom, but he is correct in that the system cannot be reformed. The funny thing is how the “progressives” ignore all this. Extreme trickle down? Great idea, we just need more! They lost the values, but they kept the weed.

  15. boveri says:

    The real Dr. Doom and others was Barry Ritholz who though Fraudclosuregate would bankrupt Bank of America. It won’t!

  16. deaner66 says:

    What does it say about this country, when the very tenets that we stand on, are floating on a sea of corruption? Are investment bankers so powerful that our laws, literally, do not apply to them?

    Obviously, it appears these people will get away with this. I mean, where is the goddamn outrage? How come the Tea Baggers never speak to these topics?

    My conservative friends like to remind me that we live in the greatest country ever known. I’m a proud American, but there comes a time when patriotism gets in the way of ugly truths.

  17. lalaland says:

    Y’all just think indictments, prosecutions, etc. just happen overnight huh? Robo-signing was brought to light some months ago, you have 50 attorneys-general reviewing millions of documents, and there are myriad of laws being circumvented by scores of people.

    It will happen people, it’s not going to happen in a few months; we’ll be lucky if it gets sorted out in a couple of years by my reckoning.

  18. Mannwich says:

    @lalaland: No, of course not, but based on the fact that there have been exactly ZERO significant criminal indictments since when the crisis started nearly three whole years ago, I think it’s a safe assumption that we aren’t likely to see any significant indictments here either that would threaten the freight train that is banking system. It’s quite obvious that one cannot be too cynical about this stuff anymore.

  19. Sunny129 says:

    Just confirms again:

    AMERICA the Best Democracy Money can Buy!

  20. roger erickson says:

    “A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car; but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad.”
    Theodore Roosevelt

    there’s probably not a single county in the USA where this didn’t go on, but even senior FBI execs were instructed they had “more pressing” things to do;

    Lesson? With enough of the right education, people may steal the whole damn country! With impunity!