Via Good, comes this graphic looking at the relationship between education and income:

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21 Responses to “Income vs Education”

  1. bergsten says:

    Stupid map.

    Who graduated college without being a high school graduate — why two separate colors?

    And how does one county display as black while another with reasonably proportional values is (for the above reason) an “impossible” green (yellow plus blue, no red)?

    Looks like another bit of “red states are ignorant hicks” propaganda to me (or is it blue states — which color is Republican again)?

    Stupid map.

  2. Jake S. says:

    @ Bergsten: if we only knew that, let’s say, 35% of a population graduated college, then, to your point, we’d know that 35% of the population also graduated HS, but what about the remaining 65%?

  3. JimRino says:

    It seems to show that the South shouldn’t be telling the rest of the country how to run education programs.

  4. bergsten says:

    @Jake: Didn’t (mean to) say that HS should be ignored, just that there ought to be just one color for “level of education.”

    If they needed a third dimension, they should have picked something completely different, say, “percentage who dislike of New Yorkers.”

  5. bergsten says:

    @JimRino: I rest my case.

  6. JimRino says:

    Bergsten, no, you now know an important piece of information. you school systems are substandard on a national basis. This doesn’t prove that the South is full of hicks, it proves that the South has a sub-standard education system.

    It proves that you could look to learn why and how the rest of the country, east, north and west have better school systems. It shows HOW you could raise your Average Earnings, and Attract Businesses that depend on an educated workforce.

    Or you could defend against an imagined insult.

  7. JimRino says:

    Bergsten, no, you now know an important piece of information. you school systems are substandard on a national basis. This doesn’t prove that the South is full of hicks, it proves that the South has a sub-standard education system.

    It proves that you could look to learn why and how the rest of the country, east, north and west have better school systems. It shows HOW you could raise your Average Earnings, and Attract Businesses that depend on an educated workforce.

    Or you could defend against an imagined insult.

  8. Julia Chestnut says:

    You know how they say “Past returns are not indicative of future performance?” By definition, areas skewed heavily towards 17 and younger will be a lighter color. . . .whereas those where the demographic is aging will show up darker.

    Makes me wonder. . . . .of course, the areas that skew young should be investing heavily in building out that future workforce. But what are the chances that is happening? [sigh].

  9. Andy T says:

    Agree with Bergsten that this is a lame map in re: visual representation.

    JimRino: Which part of this map suggests that a region has “substandard” school systems?

    Please explain and enlighten.

  10. VennData says:

    Donald Trump appeals to the Homeschooling crowd by going “Birther,” Here’s betting they bring the GOP income average down a bit.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2011/0328/Donald-Trump-Genuine-birther-or-just-furthering-his-personal-brand

    “…They point to a recent Public Policy Polling survey which showed that 51 percent of likely Republican voters believe Obama was not born in the US…”

    Ah the GOP, by “Home” I mean “Trailer.”

  11. idaman says:

    Haha, that looks very similar to a Republican vs Democratic voter map, with educated counties voting democratic.

  12. boogabooga1114 says:

    I’m not sure the human brain is meant to parse the interactions of three different color variables.

  13. impermanence says:

    It is certainly reassuring to know that the wealth and education are positively correlated.

  14. momus says:

    It’s a lame map if and only if the correlation between education and income wasn’t established before the map was put together. If they are correlated then the map presents the information in an effective manner. The information @ Good suggests the map was put together based on the correlation.

  15. Jack says:

    So you’re smart. And have kids. And have a couple of bucks. The lame map still tells you where to edumacate your kids.

  16. arcticpup says:

    Actually Jack, the map tells you that if you don’t have a high school diploma you might want to move to a county that light blue in colour like Holmes, Ohio because you still have a chance to make a decent living even if your a high school dropout. And Jack, the map really doesn’t tell you the where, it tells you as a parent that you need to ensure that your kid(s) get education and a good one, because education translates to the potential of a higher income.

  17. CheeseburgerBob says:

    Cute, interesting, but really meaningless. I love how some read into it what they already believe or wish to infer.
    I know or have lived in some of the places on the map and the income, education levels don’t really correlate, nor are there any causation existing. The wealthy-owned mega ranches in the West, the largest metropolitan areas, and the second-home-retreat wealthy areas skew the “results”; as well as the age of the population and the mobility of Americans in general. How many readers have stayed in the same place they were born or lived during their childhood?
    Cute, interesting, but really meaningless.

  18. wally says:

    The whole education/income argument really needs to be re-examined. As a poster points out in the following thread, a kid in Africa today with a cell phone has access to more information than the President of the US did 15 years ago.
    Information and knowledge – the traditional results of education – probably have less correlation with higher income than do credentials and location. Credentials is mostly what you get from education that leads you to a higher income… and as the cost of those credentials rises and more people leave the cred-factory with huge debt the whole analysis changes.
    Regardless of education or credentials, you will also be likely to make more money in Hennepin County, MN, than in almost any county, NM, so location matters, too.

  19. DeDude says:

    I think God should have thought this out a little better. One color for education, one for income and if you want a third color it should have been for taxation. The “less gobinment&taxes” areas don’t invest enough in edumacation to attract the high paying jobs that need college graduates. Not that much news to it, but would be nice to be told by God – since that seems to be the only authority that can cut through the fog in certain areas of the country.

  20. Manhattan Jewess says:

    I have a PhD and can’t figure it out and would like to.

  21. dreddie says:

    there’s just one thing forgotten i think. People can move after they graduate highschool and move again after graduating college. In an open economie with free traffic of people between counties it is pretty useless to look at this relationship.