Politico’s M. Wuerker captures this fellow beautifully:

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Category: Philosophy, Psychology, Really, really bad calls

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44 Responses to “I’m So Mad at Big Government”

  1. Bob A says:

    …and when they’re not complaining about those things they’re bitching about how the road to their favorite resort or country club is not freshly paved.

  2. TheArmoTrader says:

    ONLY if the Gov let BP do its drilling w/o any regulation, then we wouldve never had that nasty oil spill! Damn this big bad gov

  3. BR,

    you’re missing the Agitprop-tag, to go along with these.. “Philosophy, Psychology/Sentiment, Really, really bad calls.”

  4. BusSchDean says:

    The problem isn’t Big Government per se. The problem is that if a company can compromise Scotland Yard what hope is there that we will have honest politicians with real integrity?

  5. GeorgeBurnsWasRight says:

    BusSchDean-

    Or CEOs with real integrity?

  6. KevinM says:

    I’d like to discus the Toyota panel with the cartoonist.

    1) US Government takes direct control of worlds 2nd largest auto maker.
    2) Immediate sh*t storm around a hard to prove/refute malfunction causing massive US recalls of cars from worlds 1st largest auto maker. Big press.
    3) After about 6 months, the malfunctions were determined to be operator error, no fault found in equipment, no changes made. No press.

  7. carleric says:

    honest politicians, political integrity, political courage….all these are oxymorons. Noone seriously debates the need for some government oversight but the bureaucratic overreach of our current government is deadening to the soul of the country. If we would just identify all the needles compliance crap and record keeping and then get out of people’s way, I suspect things would get better in a hurry….oh and briniging all our troops home from everywhere wouldn’t hurt either..

  8. philipat says:

    “That Government is best which governs least”

  9. BusSchDean says:

    GBWR….Agree

    KM….give me a break. The CEO of Toyota completely took his eye off the ball. No gov’t direct control, just corporate incompetence, if not in terms of the actual quality of the cars than with the handling of the complaints. Really miserable PR and marketing.

    philipat….great quote from an founding father who had little concept of the interplay between gov’t and business. Jefferson had no idea whatsoever as to what would happen next, which is why he supported a landed aristocracy and died broke. When Washington was asked to choose between Hamilton and Jefferson there was no real choice and Jefferson soon left the Cabinet.

  10. MikeW says:

    Geez, BR, I’d like to see Glass-Steagall reinstated as much as the next guy, but you’re going a little HuffPo on us here, no?

  11. BusSchDean,

    Way to be, completely, FOS..

    care to see some of .. http://search.yippy.com/search?query=%27%27I+hope+we+shall+crush+in+its+birth+the+aristocracy+of+our+monied+corporations+which+dare+to+challenge+our+government+to+a+trial+by+strength+and+bid+defiance+to+the+laws+of+our+country.%27%27+–+Thomas+Jefferson.&tb=sitesearch-all&v%3Aproject=clusty

    you know, for Starters..

    for the *click*-impaired..

    Thomas Jefferson
    Crush Monied Corporations

    I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied
    corporations which dare already to challenge our government
    to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.

    http://www.repeatafterus.com/title.php?i=4180

    “I hope we shall… crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and to bid defiance to the laws of their country.”
    - Thomas Jefferson, letter to George Logan. November 12, 1816.

    http://www.corporations.org/

    “…Jefferson’s distrust of concentrated and consolidated power was such that he left a legacy for any and every dissenter against the state.

    But Jefferson did not stop there.

    He was, as well, a relentless critic of the monopolizing of economic power by banks, corporations and those who put their faith in what the third president referred to as “the selfish spirit of commerce (that) knows no country, and feels no passion or principle but that of gain.

    Jefferson might not have wanted a lot of government, but he wanted enough government to assert the sovereignty of citizens over corporations. To his view, nothing was more important to the health of the republic.

    In the early years of the 19th century, as banks and corporations began to flex their political muscles, he announced that: “I hope we shall crush… in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”

    There are those who would have us believe that the founders intended for corporations to control our elections – and, tragically, five of these Tories sit on the U.S. Supreme Court, where they recently ruled that the nation’s biggest businesses may spend whatever they like to buy the results that best serve their bottom lines.

    The better angels among the founders would be aghast…”
    Thomas Jefferson Feared an Aristocracy of Corporations
    John Nichols | July 4, 2010
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433×364000

  12. mezcal says:

    M. Wuerker is apparently a master of irony.

    Each of those cartoon panels represents catastrophic failure of existing, very expensive government bureaucracy.
    Perhaps adding just a bit more of what did not work would turn the trick?
    Yeah, that’s it.

    Reminds me of Ben.

  13. Chief Tomahawk says:

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/man-builds-own-million-dollar-bugatti-supercar-hand-211223675.html

    Took 9 months and he’s trying to sell it for $89k. Bet his gets better mpg than the real version!

  14. gloppie says:

    I see two problems;
    Big Government (duly represented by one side of the aisle)

    and

    Big Business (represented by the other side)

    who is representing me, and every other small interest? No one.
    If this state of affair pisses me off, I have the right to assemble, and if the assembly gathers enough momentum, to become a big assembly and become a problem too.

    Small and local is the way to go, that’s how nature intended us to take our place in the world.
    I am confident that mother nature will fix our problems in the end, one way or another.

  15. philipat says:

    @MEH and Mezcal

    Thanks for the more expansive arguement further to my mere insinuations. In my defense, Bloody Mary’s and a Sunday curry luch were awaiting.

  16. bertly71 says:

    I really do not believe that we have too much government. I do believe we have too much ineffective government. Rules laws and regulations were in place to prevent all of the incidents in the above cartoon, They were not enforced properly because the regulators were either asleep, incompetent, corrupt, or watching porn on their government computers. JMO.

  17. HEHEHE says:

    Toyota was as much political theater as anything else. They screwed up with the management of the recall but the CEO and management teams biggest screw-up was not being prepared for the circus they’d see before Congress.

    Look at the number of recalls the big three have had since and ask yourself where are the Congressional hearings?

  18. Kris Dannon says:

    @ Mark Hoffer

    Excellent post Mark, though apparently the general lack of US historical and constitutional literacy is so widespread today it clearly does not bode well for our future. But understanding how the colonists felt about a central government and its role the newly independent colonies is essential. And if we are to understand the original intent of the founding documents and evolution of ideas that began with the articles of confederation and ended with the US Constitution we have to know the history.

    George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams (Jr and Sr), Ben Franklin, James Madison and Justice John Jay all authored many of the most remarkable and astute quotes, which frequently took the form of warnings and admonitions. And it was the Federalist papers (many penned by Madison) that had the most to say on central government and individual freedoms and responsibilities, and how to best guard our liberties as well as how to most surely lose them.

    There were, however other seminal figures who influenced even our founding fathers. These include: Baron Montesque (most influential of all) , Lord Blackstone and John Locke, all of whom were Englishmen living before the American Revolutionary War. These were quoted at length by the founders. Yet most amazingly it was the Bible that was quoted even more often than these influential men.

    Youve posted some good ones on corporate excesses. Following are a few of my favorite quotes, some quite germane to our current national plight:

    “I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.” – Jefferson

    “I am for a government rigorously frugal and simple, applying all the possible savings of the public revenue to the discharge of the national debt, and not for a multiplication of officers and salaries merely to make partisans, and for increasing, by every device, the public debt on the principle of its being a public blessing.” – Thomas Jefferson

    All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent – Thomas Jefferson

    “Those willing to relinquish their freedoms for security deserve neither… and will likely lose both.”
    - Ben Franklin

  19. tawm says:

    Right, we don’t need to be concerned about the loss of Liberty in our society…it’s such a tiresome and inconsequential concept….

    ~~~

    BR: What do you mean by loss of liberty?

    TSA taking naked photos of you, illegal wiretaps and secret torture camps — or nationalized health care?

    I just want to understand what your specific beef is.

  20. Petey Wheatstraw says:

    philipat Says:

    “That Government is best which governs least”

    And MEH’s reply:
    ___________________

    Things were very agrarian back then. I doubt Jefferson could comprehend the Industrial Revolution, much less that anyone would shit in their own well, much less the community well.

    Aside from that sound bite, Jefferson also recognized the necessity of government and taxation.

    Some research on the quote:

    FAMOUS QUOTE (NOT BY JEFFERSON):

    “I heartily accept the motto, — ‘That government is best which governs least.’”
    Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
    Civil Disobedience (1849)
    The quote “That government is best which governs least” is often wrongly attributed to Thomas Jefferson. Thoreau’s use probably popularized it in that exact form, but he was referring to an existing saying. An oft-quoted earlier version (possibly the origin of the saying) was written by American journalist and editor John Louis O’Sullivan. In 1837, he wrote “The best government is that which governs least” in the introductory editorial for his periodical The United States Magazine and Democratic Review. He used it as the motto of the Review until its demise in 1859. In 1844, Thoreau’s friend Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote in an essay: “The less government we have, the better.”

    MORE LOGICAL COUNTERQUOTE:

    “That government is best which governs best.”
    Robert M. Hutchins (1899-1977)
    Dean of Yale Law School
    Speech given in New York City, Jan. 21, 1959.

    CORPORATE ETHICS COUNTERQUOTE:

    “‘The government is best that governs least.’ If correct, corporations should be left to pursue their own ends unfettered by government.’”
    Thomas Donaldson
    Professor of Legal Studies and Business Ethics,
    Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania
    In his book Corporations and Morality (1982)

    OLD-STYLE REPUBLICAN COUNTERQUOTE:

    “It is an old saying that that government is best that governs least. In a truer and more practical sense, modern social thinkers regard that government as best that best protects the lives, the property, and the liberty of its citizens and best guarantees them equal rights, privileges, and opportunities before the law.”
    James W. Good (1866-1929)
    Republican Congressman from Iowa
    Speech to the Wisconsin State Bar Association, 1921

  21. mathman says:

    Here’s an interesting take on taxation and paying one’s “fair share” (30 min. video accompanies article):
    http://newstalgia.crooksandliars.com/gordonskene/fdr-has-word-or-two-about-taxes-1936

    (from the above):
    Seems the subject of taxes has been with us for a very-very long time. And it also seems the ones doing the most complaining haven’t changed very much in the past 200 or so years.

    Tax breaks for the wealthy were a concept well in place by the time Hoover was President.

    FDR: “To divide fairly among the people the obligation to pay for these benefits has been a major part of our struggle to maintain Democracy in America. Ever since 1776, that struggle has been between two forces; on the one hand there has been a vast majority of citizens who believe the benefits of democracy should be extended and who are willing to pay their fair share to extend them. And on the other hand, there has been a small but powerful group which has fought the extension of these benefits because they did not want to pay a fair share of their cost. That was the lineup in seventeen hundred and seventy-six and it’s the lineup today. And I am confident that once more, in nineteen thirty-six democracy in taxation will win. Here is my principle, and I think it’s yours too; Taxes shall be levied according to ability to pay. That is the only American principle.”

  22. BusSchDean says:

    Re: Jefferson. I agree that he worried about the abuse of power from many sources — gov’t and corporations. He also knew of the necessity gov’t and taxes. He had some sense of the Industrial Revolution and from what I gather was worried about its excesses.

    My statement was that he did not understand the interplay between gov’t and business. He fought hard against the establishment of a central bank, then renewed its charter when President. He resisted at every turn Hamilton’s more prescient view of an economically strong global player. He was, of course, an obviously a brilliant man but like the rest of the Founding Fathers had his limits and perspective. We live in a Hamiltonian America not a Jeffersonian America though Hamilton clearly had his own problems and limits — hey, they were people. But I still contend that the quote (often attributed to Jefferson, correctly or not) suggests a view of gov’t so simplistic as to not only be unhelpful but actually harmful.

  23. DeDude says:

    Greed, self-serving and lack of integrity or competence is a problem in government, but not something that is unique to government. However, when it occurs in a democratically elected government we have some tools to discover it (free press and sunshine laws) and to deal with it (free democratic elections). Not that those tools are perfect but they have served their function well in a large number of cases. When similar problems occurs in the private sector a strong government can make sure that they do not cause damage to society. In a corporatocracy with small weak government the population have no way to deal with such problems neither in the corporate not in the public sector.

  24. Petey Wheatstraw says:

    BusSchDean:

    it would seem that we have reached a point where a business’ freedom to operate has been extended to the point that it has become a shield from criminal prosecution — not simply government regulation. The corporate shield has become impenetrable.

    I doubt any founder would have supported that idea (not in public, at least).

    We have clearly moved from a Constitutional Republic to lawless corporatocracy.

  25. HEHEHE says:

    Another thing re government regulation – despite the complaining by CEO’s at major corporations, government regulation in many instances serves as a barrier to growth for smaller businesses preventing them from competing with the majors. So a more appropriate cartoon would be the CEO at the major corporation complaining not about more government regulation but about government regulation that was not drawn up his lobbyists.

  26. HEHEHE says:

    DeDude,

    “However, when it occurs in a democratically elected government we have some tools to discover it (free press and sunshine laws) and to deal with it (free democratic elections).”

    I take exception to the presumption we have free democratic elections. Until there is a constitutional amendment that states that money is not free speech there will never be free democratic elections in this country. They are democratic only in that people get to vote. The issues, candidates, and coverage in the mainstream media is all controlled by the corporations, unions and other interests writing the checks.

  27. Moss says:

    The game is about who gets to control government, all the slogans and such are simply smoke screens that are meant to divide the voters into partisan camps and narrow the debate. The rise of the Tea Party is a prefect example of this. It certainly is not simply about big vs. small government. When budgeted US defense outlays represent 47% of the yearly Federal spending yet never comes up as being representative of big government from those who want small government the argument is not honest.

  28. Petey Wheatstraw says:

    We will have free democratic elections when people accept that their vote is the true currency of the US. In the vote, no individual is more wealthy than his neighbor. The vote is the only and equal share of true power.

    Too bad nothing can fix stupid.

    There is nothing wrong with our system that The People didn’t assent to. Now that they have voted in favor of their own disenfranchisement, the foolishness of that act will become more apparent to some. Others, clinging to the idea that their past decisions were correct, simply because they cannot admit their lack of insight or flaws in reasoning (much as some folks will hold a stock until it’s worthless, because if they chose it, it can’t have been a bad decision), will continue to double down on their bets against themselves.

  29. beaufou says:

    The cartoonist forgot my all time Tea Party favorite:
    keep the government out of my Medicare.

  30. BusSchDean says:

    From DeDude to Moss: No disagreement from me.

    For decades we wrestled with the role of gov’t in regulating business (from the 1890 Sherman Antitrust Act to Clayton Act, FTC, FDA, FCC, SEC, Robinson-Patman, Glass-Steagall, etc.). In the 1980s the balance shifted in favor of less regulation (voices we heard from then: Reagan, Bork, Phil Gramm, etc.). Now we are worrying about the role of business in regulating gov’t. Our Founding Fathers, as smart and tenacious as they were, could not anticipate all of this.

  31. ruetheday says:

    @Kris Dannon – You said:

    “Those willing to relinquish their freedoms for security deserve neither… and will likely lose both.”
    - Ben Franklin

    That’s actually a misquote. The original quote from Franklin was:

    “Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

    Note that the two adjectives, “essential” and “temporary” make all the difference in the world. There is always a tradeoff between liberty and security (freedom to do whatever you want is anarchy) and Franklin knew it.

  32. techy says:

    We just keep rehashing these issues which are obvious to the rational 15-30% of the population but the real deal is rest of the population.

    In actuality this country is kind of evenly split between the rationals who are not willing to give up and the religious who still want laws based on fairy tale book.

    As an example to win Alabama, Louisiana, texas, Missisipi etc…All you have to say is you do not support abortion rights and gay marriage and maybe throw in some rhetoric of how baby mamas with six kids are having fun on the welfare system.

    Everything else is a side show. fix the stupid people and you will have a working democracy else its just a matter of luck.

    A system is not a problem its the stupid humans who are the problem…..cant wait for the machines to become enforcers :)

  33. OK Avenger says:

    I see big government as a necessary evil. We’d all do well to dust off the old Galbraith books and the idea of Countervailing Power. Individuals vs Large Corporations is not my idea of freedom. Having a government on the side of the little guy makes a lot of sense to me. The problem we have is that the same people screaming the loudest about freedom are willing to do absolutely nothing about plutocrats controlling our politics.

  34. BusSchDean says:

    Techy: Until we elect Transformers to Congress (or will they be our overlords) I guess we have to work with what we have. Though offering many terrific benefits, technology has also allowed us to screen for only those ideas and speakers that reinforce our preconceived notions – the cable channels we watch, the RSS feeds we get, and who we follow on Twitter. I can think of more than one cable “news” show that should have the tagline “Helping the less informed stay that way since ___.”

    It would help a great deal if more of those 15-30% would be as passionate and articulate as BR has been with this blog, especially if they are CEOs and other leaders. We could use a few more smart journalists too. There is nothing in history to suggest that a society must progress (even if we can agree on what constitutes progress); there is plenty in history to suggest that a society can suffer from its own collective folly.

  35. DeDude says:

    I agree that the engine of our free democratic elections is sputtering because a lot of little tea party idiots have been convinced that gobinment is their enemy and the Koch brothers their friends. But as long as there is a progressive fraction in one of the parties, I think there is hope that things can be changed for the better (provided people fight rather than give up).

  36. Arequipa01 says:

    Below is an excerpt of a piece written by an American soldier named McCord which Glenn Greenwald has reproduced in an article about Bradley Manning who allegedly leaked the so-called Collateral Murder video as well as other confidential and secret material. Link: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/

    “Serving with my unit 2nd battalion 16th infantry in New Baghdad Iraq, I vividly remember the moment in 2007, when our Battalion Commander walked into the room and announced our new rules of engagement:

    “Listen up, new battalion SOP (standing operating procedure) from now on: Anytime your convoy gets hit by an IED, I want 360 degree rotational fire. You kill every [expletive] in the street!”

    We weren’t trained extensively to recognize an unlawful order, or how to report one. But many of us could not believe what we had just been told to do. Those of us who knew it was morally wrong struggled to figure out a way to avoid shooting innocent civilians, while also dodging repercussions from the non-commissioned officers who enforced the policy. In such situations, we determined to fire our weapons, but into rooftops or abandoned vehicles, giving the impression that we were following procedure.”

    Read the third para again:

    “Listen up, new battalion SOP (standing operating procedure) from now on: Anytime your convoy gets hit by an IED, I want 360 degree rotational fire. You kill every [expletive] in the street!”

    That order constitutes an instance to war crimes. The US has committed/is committing war crimes*. The US Govt has revealed itself to be indiscriminate and genocidal- it has no vested interest in anything but satisfying/fulfilling the war machine’s desire mechanism/logic machine. So, while I may initially sympathize with the sentiment expressed in the cartoonist’s sarcasm, in the final accounting I must countenance/recognize/accept that turning to the State currently operant in the US is like asking a rabid dog to protect you from cancer. If I were rich, I’d start sailing to Byzantium (as soon as you figure out where Byzantium is) cuz Rome’s well…”sick with desire/And fastened to a dying animal/It knows not what it is” .

    *Look up Colonel Steel’s orders in Al-Anbar (just prior to massive US payoffs to the Sunni tribes to stop fighting which was followed by the ridiculous book The Strongest Tribe- hahaha, frickin’ Scots ever since you stopped wearing kilts your toughest guy is movie actor whose dad was Oirish! me boyos-wankers)

  37. techy says:

    Arequipa01:

    If I was rich, I would stay in USA….mobs are well controlled here…

  38. techy says:

    I agree that those who are aware are responsible for blowing the whistle..

    but why discuss hundreds of non-issues, which are simply distractions created by the pols and the immoral religious people……who cannot fight dead straight….saying its all about beleifs and we will talk about issues only when this is decided in our favor.

    who has the solution to fix the delusional…who get brainwashed in their holy buildings every week….who cannot understand that: “in times of emergency we call 911 not god”.

    I do not know what the future holds….will the kids get smarter enough to stop selling their future to the lobbyists just to get support for their fairly tale beleifs…anybody knows if the education system can overcome the home-delusion-education in the coming decades??

  39. willid3 says:

    i think it was mentioned, but i will repeat it. if we have strong corporations (which we do) then we need a strong government since we as individuals have no chance at all of counter balancing them. we can complain (and should) that corporations have no business in politics, and should have influence in government. otherwise we will end up with corporate government, owned and controlled by it. and thats where we seem to be headed. as the SCOUS seems to believe corporations have as much rights as humans do. only more, as they can’t go to prison, or face criminal charges. and given time SCOUS will ad they have the right to vote (or a stat will).

  40. Arequipa01 says:

    In another thread, under one of yesterday’s posts someone mentioned Jeffrey Winters and his work Oligarchy (with a link to Amazon embedded in the comment-interesting). Here is a link to an article published in a journal called Perspectives on Politics in which Winters lays out his core thinking relative to the fact of oligarchy in the United States- think of it as an hors d’oeuvres to whet the appetite for his book.

    http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayFulltext?type=1&fid=6677124&jid=PPS&volumeId=7&issueId=04&aid=6677116

    To all you oligarchs out there, a few words of advice- find J. Winters, shove money down his throat, two jiggers of rum, lime juice, some crushed mint leaves, a little azúcar, a dash of soda water, voilá mojito

    oh and please feel free to consume copious quantities of caca and commit a messy seppuku at your earliest convenience…remember coprophagy- it’s what all the kewl kidz r doing, bra

  41. streeteye says:

    “This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock, powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. I watch this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the Food and Drug Administration.

    At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress, and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank. On the way out the door, I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

    After work, I drive my NHTSA car back home on DOT roads, to a house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and Fire Marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

    I then log on to the Internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration and post on FreeRepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right.”

    been going around teh Internets for years, for instance here –

    http://www.boingboing.net/2011/07/08/half-of-us-social-pr.html#comment-1158259

  42. tawm says:

    >BR: What do you mean by loss of liberty?
    >TSA taking naked photos of you, illegal wiretaps and secret torture camps — or nationalized health care?
    >I just want to understand what your specific beef is.

    The cartoon parodies as a fool a man who ironically complains about:
    Regulation, Big Government, and Bureaucracy while showing the far greater risks from: Industries: Manufacturing, Energy (Fossil fuels and Nukes), and the Finance Sector. Let’s leave out Finance.

    I object to the smug assumption that the threats from the latter outweigh the former. I was thinking of Economic Liberty — the ability for citizens to create businesses, do commerce, and enter into otherwise productive economic behavior without destructive government interference.

    Now go ahead and blast me for using “Libertarian” or “Chicago School of Economics” or “Tea Party” whatever other epithets you want to throw. But I’d prefer to stick to ideas.

    ~~~

    BR: People fear different things — some fear a corporate takeover, while others are concerned with government intervention.

  43. socaljoe says:

    The problem with our big banks is not that they failed, but that the equity and bond holders were bailed out by big government. If they had been allowed to fail like hundreds of smaller banks (as in Sweden), we would be much further along in our recovery.

  44. hlauther says:

    Lots of people hate what they call “Big Government.” But let me ask you…

    • Can you name any time when Big Business acted as the protector of the people and their constitution in any way?
    • Do you ever recall Big Business assembling the nation’s forces to fight a war? (Making and selling military equipment at a profit doesn’t count, for that’s its BASIC FUNCTION.)
    • Does Big Business patrol the coastline, or spy upon dedicated enemies of the state?
    • Is Big Business proficient at quelling a riot in a city, or fighting organized crime?
    • Does Big Business have an admiral record when it comes to responding to a national disaster?
    • Has Big Business ever created a lot of public libraries in your town, where you can check out books for free for two or three weeks?
    • Ever recall Big Business building a school system that children could attend free of charge?
    • Did Big Business construct the roads in your neighborhood and beyond? Or that bridge which crosses the river?
    • If your house catches fire, will a member of the Big Business Club come rushing there to extinguish the blaze?
    • Let’s suppose some member of your family falls over with a serious illness, or becomes involved in a tragic accident, will any member of Big Business come speeding there, with sirens blaring, and take that person to the hospital?
    • Was Big Business the one that decided your town needed a bus or subway service?
    • On its own, did Big Business decide that all the houses on your street needed a sewer system?
    • Is it Big Business that tries to make sure your water is clean enough to drink and to bathe in?
    • When there’s an epidemic, which sometimes happens, is Big Business the one that tries to protect the general population by inoculating them against the disease?
    • Will Big Business try to help you if you become unemployed?
    • Has Big Business ever put a letter in your mailbox?
    • How many public parks can you name that are financially supported by Big Business, where you and your family can have a picnic and get away from it all?
    • Does Big Business print the money that you carry around, and does it insure it when you put it in a bank?
    • If you want to pray to a different God than your neighbor, will Big Business provide you with that opportunity?
    • If you become old and alone, will Big Business attend to some of your most basic needs?
    • If Big Business cannot make a profit by providing you with some assistance, will it help you nevertheless?

    I only bring these questions to your attention for this reason: the next time you hear someone complain about the influence of Big Government in our lives, you might remember to throw one or two of them his way.