Where Will the Jobs Come From?
John Mauldin
November 4, 2011


Where Will the Jobs Come From?
Stupid Government Tricks
Let’s Tax the Millionaires
Kilkenny, Atlanta, DC, and Home


I find myself in Liam’s taxi on the beautiful drive to Kilkenny through the Irish countryside for a few hours this very early Friday morning, so what better time to begin writing about employment than in a country that is struggling, just as most of the developed world is, to find good jobs for its people. I’m on my way to a conference that will talk about the economics that is driving the world’s leading governments to distraction in Cannes. Is Greece going to vote? Take the money? Will it be an orderly default? Should Ireland default? Whatever I write, the situation will change as soon as I hit the send button tonight. (For the record, I think Greece should have a referendum. You don’t go into what they are getting ready to suffer without national buy-in. No elitist deals. Put it to the people to decide, one way or the other.)

Where Will the Jobs Come From?

With seven kids, jobs have been on my mind of late. It has not been easy for some of them. It helps me to remember what it was like to be in my 20s in the ’70s and to really struggle to pay the rent and put food on the table for a family. Savings? Hah! And while I have been able to help the kids here and there, back then there was no one to help me. More than a few nights, I woke up with a knot in my stomach, wondering whether to pay rent or make payroll. College did not prepare me for the “joys” of being an entrepreneur.

Interest rates were 18% if you could even find a bank in Texas to lend on hard receivables. Unemployment was north of 8% and sometimes 10%. The Japanese were beating our brains out. It was the Carter malaise years. All my friends were struggling as well, so it seemed normal. Kind of like now.

And I know I have written this before, but it bears repeating. The correct answer then, as it is today, to the question, “Where will the jobs come from?” was “I don’t know, but they will.” That is what free markets and entrepreneurs do: they create jobs where none existed, given the chance.

And that’s how it looks today. This week’s ISM and jobs reports augur poorly for employment in the coming months.

Jonathan Tepper (co-author of Endgame) of Variant Perception writes this week:

“Economists miss the start of recessions for two reasons: 1) they focus on coincident to lagging data, and 2) they use data series that are heavily revised, rendering them useless in real time.

“For example, most mainstream economists did not recognize the beginning of the last recession that began in December 2007 until mid-2008. Leading indicators had plunged, yet coincident and lagging data continued to be positive. However, once the data for non-farm payrolls and GDP were revised, the loss of employment and the loss of economic output were much greater than had originally been estimated. In all likelihood, we are seeing a similar dynamic play out today.

“All of our leading indicators have been pointing down since early spring. Now many unrevised short leading indicators are pointing towards weakness in employment, output and asset prices. The GDP weighted employment reading for ISM services and manufacturing is now clearly below 50. The last times this happened was before the 2001 recession and before the 2008 recession.”

You can’t read any serious economic analysis of late that does not talk about jobs, whether in Europe or the US or Asia. And not a lot of it is pretty. Politicians offer “plans” for jobs, most of which go to great lengths to illustrate the sympathy they have for people out of work, but without offering any real ideas on how to create meaningful, lasting jobs. Some are actually destructive of jobs, far from creating any (these are of the “I’m from the government and I’m here to help” variety).

I have been having a rather lively email conversation with several serious thought-leaders about what we should do to get us out of the current job malaise. The ideas we are discussing are worth a wider audience, so Bill Dunkelberg, who is the Chief Economist for the National Federation of Independent Businesses and I have decided to write what we hope will be a short book on employment (I know, I have never done a short book yet). How are jobs created? What policies should governments adopt to help create jobs? How do we get back to full employment in the US in a Muddle Through economy that needs at least 125,000 jobs a month just to keep up with population growth? (Today we learned that in October new employment was just 80,000.)

Stupid Government Tricks

The book will be US-centric in its focus, but the policies we will be talking about can be adapted to almost any country. And as long-time readers know, when I start on a book project, some of it tends to leak into the weekly letter; so in between writing about the crisis du jour in Europe, I will give you a small preview of where we are going. I should note that Dunk and I will be getting a little help from our friends, and we want your help in some very specific ways.

First, I know my readers are among the smartest on the net. If you have an idea about how to increase employment, send it to us. Put “jobs” in the subject line.

Also, most of America is familiar with David Letterman’s occasional skit called “Stupid Animal Tricks.” We want to do a section on government policies that hurt job creation. At all levels, from local to national. Send us your anecdotes and notes on odd rules and laws that destroy jobs and opportunity, rather than create them. Almost everyone has a story about how government is hurting their business. Tell us yours.

And at the same time, what do you see that is working? Why do some states seem to attract businesses and others lose them? Again, send your comments with the subject line “jobs.” And, you’ll get a footnote if we use your suggestion. (Hey, I love being footnoted!)

In that regard, I call your attention to a column in Thursday’s Wall Street Journal by Daniel Henninger about whether Texas Governor Rick Perry (now candidate for president) can take credit for the jobs creation that has been happening in Texas. And the writer’s point, and I concur, is that he can only in the sense that he didn’t get in the way and did help pass a few bills to make it easier. And you do have to give him credit for being aggressive about luring businesses.

But that has been the case as long as I can remember. Democrat or Republican, Texas governors and politicians in general recognize that businesses drive employment, which drives the economy. In that regard, Perry does “get” what helps create a favorable business climate (not that that would be the reason to elect him). The columnist interviewed a lot of businesses that had come to Texas. It was not just lower taxes that brought them; it was an overall favorable business climate and an able workforce that made the difference.

Henninger has some very nice things to say about Texas and its work ethic:

“In 1990, one of the world’s biggest companies, Exxon Mobil, left New York City for Dallas. Exxon’s former CEO, Lee Raymond, says the move in part was indeed about costs and New York State’s notoriously overbearing tax authority. But it was also about working amid a culture of competence. ‘It’s just the attitude in Texas of getting things done and doing them well,’ he says.

“Mr. Raymond remarks that the economic policies that in time trapped the Northeast and Rust Belt in spirals of decline never touched Texas. But this is about something beyond low taxes and no unions: ‘In Texas the people tend to be farmers or individual businessmen, and they have this attitude: We have to make do with what we have and work together to get things done and survive. It’s can-do. That attitude permeates everything there.’”

And while the part of me that is deep-roots Texan likes to believe that somehow we are special, the part of me that has been to 49 states and 60 countries smiles a little at my pride. I find that same attitude in Maine, where I go fishing in the summer. And in Atlanta, where I will be next week. And in New York City, and Colorado. Everywhere I go I find people wanting and willing to work hard.

It is not just the US, either. As I noted a few weeks ago, the Irish may be at each other’s throats with their politics, but they are united in their desire to “sell” Ireland as a center for business (and the jobs businesses bring). And while the Dutch work many fewer hours than we do in the US, their productivity is manifest and their export power per person is amazing. South Africa? Thailand? Japan? China? I could go on and on. Everywhere I go I see the drive to excel and get things done. Yes, with different local emphases, but with that same basic human drive.

“A more recent corporate immigrant [to Texas], Alan Boeckmann, until recently CEO of Fluor Corp., the engineering and construction firm, says regulatory and legal hassles pushed Fluor out of California. Congress passed Sarbanes-Oxley, but ‘California had its own version.’ There were constant class-action suits over Fluor’s benefits. ‘It could have been settled, but not in California. That’s how the game is played there.’

“When word of the 2006 move got out, ‘California made no attempt to keep us.’ In Texas, ‘things started to happen quickly, without us initiating them.’ The Irving Chamber of Commerce did orientation sessions for employees and spouses, even helping with new-house searches. Or ‘little things’: Irving on its own renamed a street Fluor Drive, which in California or the Northeast would be laughable. Those Texas rubes!”

But the workers of California are no slouches. Witness Silicon Valley. And the amazing biotech companies of Southern California. And California farm productivity is legendary.

Yet certain states seem to be the beneficiaries of businesses moving to them from certain other states. The data on that is compelling. Lower taxes? Less regulation? Lower costs? (Certainly no one chooses Texas for the weather. I left San Francisco yesterday and could only wish for days like that in Texas.)

Let’s hold that thought on business-friendly states for a few paragraphs and turn to two other op-eds in a weekend edition of the Wall Street Journal from a few weeks ago. The first was by Peggy Noonan, who may be the most gifted writer and commentator of our times. The Weekend Journal is where you can find her, on Saturday mornings. This particular column was poignant, as she was focusing on the angst she sees in the world outside Washington:

“Look, we are in a remarkable moment and I’m not sure we’re noticing it in the day-to-day of politics and media. Last week I wrote of the new patriotism that I see taking hold of the American establishment, if that’s the right word—business leaders, doctors, scientists, entrepreneurs, journalists and lawyers who find themselves feeling a great, deep yearning to help save their country. That public-spiritedness is waiting to be harnessed and led by good men and women who, in words I’ll explain in a moment, have passion not for themselves but for America.

“What’s behind it is fear. The economy is tanking and can take a whole world with it. But what’s interesting—and new—is that the fear is not finding its expression (again, among those loosely described as the establishment) in rage, or in deeper partisan antagonism. Democrats could be feeling bitter and snarky: President Obama didn’t work, and they’re not in love with him anyway, so why not bash Republicans just for fun? Republicans could be feeling mindlessly triumphant: We’re on the verge of a major victory, make way for your new rulers. But that’s not what I’m seeing. What I’m seeing is a new convergence of thought among Democrats and Republicans who are not in Washington and not part of the political matrix. They are in new agreement about our essential problems and priorities: that the economy comes first, all other crises (in foreign affairs, in our culture) come second, because they cannot be helped without an economy that is healthy and growing. They all agree—no one really argues about this anymore—the government is going bankrupt. They all agree the entitlement system has to be reformed. Heck, they all respect Paul Ryan, for his seriousness. They all want grown-ups to come forward with ideas that maybe each party wouldn’t love but that might do the country some good.

“That is what I see in every business and professional meeting, in conversations with Democrats and Republicans: a new convergence of thought among the thoughtful.”

She then goes on to describe two focus groups she watched that week of “Wal-Mart moms,” one in Iowa and the other in Orlando, Florida. A few strategic quotes:

“In Orlando they were asked to describe in a word or two how things are going in the country. The responses: ‘Depressing,’ ‘different,’ ‘discouraged,’ ‘sour’ and ‘bad.’ Any positive words to describe our country right now? Silence. How, asked the moderator, do you see our economic troubles in your life? ‘I see it every day in my job,’ one woman said. Two weeks ago her company put up a posting for a position. Two hundred fifty applicants responded, ‘all overqualified.’

“Another: ‘Most houses in my neighborhood are under foreclosure or for sale.’ Another: ‘If I had the financial stability I think I’d just get out of here.’

“…What do they want in a political leader? Someone who cares about ‘Jane Doe on Main Street that can’t pay her electric bill.’ Someone ‘with passion not for himself but for America.’

“Do elected officials in Washington know how you live? In Orlando there was a chorus of noes: ‘They have a bunch of chefs cook for them.’ ‘They’re more privileged.’ ‘They’re compensated above and beyond their salaries. They have health care.’

“Do they care about you? ‘No, not so much.’ ‘They won’t care till they’re affected.’ What do you want Washington to do? From Iowa: ‘Fix it.’ ‘Start looking at the big picture.’

What do you want from leaders. From Iowa: ‘Someone who isn’t hollow.’ ”

“They all said they care about 2012. They all said they’d vote.

“We are in a remarkable moment. Everyone understands the stakes. Everyone wants action. From comfortable professionals to people barely scraping by, everyone wants both parties to work together, to think of our country and not themselves.

“And of course everyone really gets this except Washington, which says it gets it and doesn’t. But those who think 2012 is just a clash of big parties had better wake up. They think they’re pulling and pushing in a tug of war, but they are dancing on the precipice.”

Precipice indeed. It is the Endgame. We are watching it play out in Europe, but we all know it will come to our own shores all too soon if we do not act. I hear this everywhere I go. The meeting I had with those ten Senators a month ago resonated with readers. I get asked over and over, “Do you think they understand? Will they do something?” Most of the times their voices are tinged with hope. Sometimes, though, it’s resignation, and the follow-up questions are in the “How do I protect my family and survive this?” vein.

Reading Peggy’s article invoked deep empathy, as those women could be my kids and their friends (and yes, we shop at Wal-Mart, among other places). Watching Occupy Wall Street just underscores the frustration out there. And then I read the column below Noonan’s, by Mary Kay Henry, president of the Service Employees International Union. She argues that:

“The hard truth is that things are pretty lousy for most Americans right now. And while students, seniors and workers didn’t cause our economic collapse, we’re the ones paying the price. It’s been three years since Wall Street CEOs crashed our economy. When Wall Street was on its knees, the American taxpayers came to their rescue with trillions of dollars in bailouts and promise from the big banks that they’d invest in our recovery.

“Instead, the banks used our hard-earned tax dollars to enrich themselves. They robbed millions of Americans of their jobs and their livelihoods. They refuse to invest in the small businesses that drive America’s job creation and growth. And they continue to kick us while we’re down by foreclosing on millions of families.

Mary Kay sounded the refrain about millionaires and billionaires and then said:

“…We can’t begin to fix what is wrong with our economy without creating good jobs. We have work that needs doing in this country and millions of Americans looking for full-time work. It’s time to put the two together to make America a stronger nation. And it’s time to use the money being made on Wall Street and in corporate boardrooms across the country to put Americans back to work.

“Congress can begin by passing the American Jobs Act and immediately put Americans to work rebuilding our outdated and dangerous roads and bridges and ensuring our kids have first-class schools. We can invest in our communities to keep teachers in our classrooms, police on the beat, health-care workers at our hospitals and clinics, and ensure that we have enough firefighters to protect our communities.”

The disconnect between the two columns simply leaped at me. Both note the angst that is palpable in the country (and around the world in developed countries). But one called for adults coming together and the other struck a severely partisan note, which I guess you might expect from the head of a government workers’ union.

Which brings us to the question, “What is the role of government in creating jobs?” To answer that, let’s look at the data that shows us where jobs come from. And we find (I go in-depth on this in previous columns and in Endgame) that net new jobs for the last 15 years came from new business start-ups. Big business is a net drag on job creation, and small businesses are a wash. Governments have seen job growth, but where does the money come to pay government employees?

Net new jobs come from new businesses (defined as those started within the last ten years). Yes, some of those businesses become Google and others are the local dry cleaner or donut shop. But those start-ups (if they survive) are the source of new jobs.

Let’s Tax the Millionaires

Ms. Henry wants to tax the millionaires, as if they are somehow sucking the system dry and should “pay their fair share.” Her answer is to tax them and hire more government workers. But that simply transfers income from one party to another and does nothing to create real wealth. And this has been brought home to me recently in a very personal way.

My youngest son, Trey, has been spending a lot of time with a new friend, and I decided I needed to meet his father. I went to their home to check them out. The father, Larry, was from South Africa and had just moved to my neighborhood from Utah. He said he was in software design. We became friends, and one day I probed a little deeper into what he did.

It turns out that he had designed a system (and patented it) that automatically triggers a “911″ call (the US emergency number) if you are in an auto accident, as long as your (smart) cell phone is on. Yes, the phone can recognize when you are in a vehicle and there is an impact, and that is different from dropping the phone or even throwing it into a wall. It can notify family members (or friends) if there is an accident and tell them where you are. It will work in almost any country. If a button is hit, it can silently call emergency services. It can also track your kids or employees and let you know all sorts of things you ask it, but that’s another story.

But he was in the middle of a funding crisis. I watched for several months as he struggled for money to finish his project. It was 98% of the way there, with thousands of paying users in “beta.” It was cheap. It worked. There was demand. But he was losing his funding. Why?

His original source had been a wealthy entrepreneur who had a “liquidity event,” selling his business for a large sum. As part of his reinvestment, he funded, with a small part of his money, a venture capital firm that had the goal of investing in 40 start-ups, mostly in high tech, which was where he had made his original money. I talked with the manager of the fund. The story was typical of others I have heard.

In just a few years, 10 of the original 40 had already been shut down or sold off. But the manager was not discouraged. Their plan was in the end to get ten businesses that survived and were successful. Think about that for a minute. A lousy 25% success rate?!? Would you start a business if you thought there was a 75% chance of failure? Really? Would you fire a manager who had 75% of his projects fail?

Understand, they had looked at multiple hundreds of business ideas to get to that 40. Those were the best ideas they saw. They initially thought every single one had a chance of success or they would not have funded them.

But Michael Gerber would say they were being optimistic. Gerber was a very real influence on me as a young entrepreneur. He wrote a book, originally called The E-Myth, on what really makes a business work. He cited studies that suggested that 80% of all new businesses fail within five years and that 80% of the remainder fail, are sold, or shut down within another five years. Now that is creative destruction, if not outright Darwinism. He has since gone on to write a lot of books and to help many entrepreneurs, but I have never forgotten those first lessons. (http://www.e-myth.com/ – I would suggest that any entrepreneur read his books.)

Do you think that because you like to make pies and are good at it you can open a pie shop? (his illustration). You’ll soon find out you are not just in the pie-making business. You have inventory, employees, payroll, marketing, budgeting, customers, taxes, government forms, regulations, etc. They take your time away from doing what you thought you were good at.

I grew up in a print shop. And when I was in my 20s I found out I could sell. And because I knew printing and could sell, I opened a print shop. Several times. You would think I would have learned. Starting a business is more than just having technical knowledge or skills. It is a host of things, and it is very hard to make one work. But the good news is that optimism triumphs over reality, and as a society we all benefit from those who take the risks and figure it out. And jobs get created.

The rich entrepreneur who funded Larry’s start-up? His basic business and investments hit a bump in the recession. He had to reduce his funding commitments, and one of those casualties was Larry, who went into scramble mode when his next source also went upside down.

I did my homework, brought in some people who understood what Larry was doing, and decided to make an offer. Larry took it. I got in for much less than the original investor in terms of dollar-for-equity, but that’s what I wanted for the risk. We’ll see how it works out. (Note to self: go see that private fund manager and find out what the heck the businesses are that he thought were worth continuing to fund, if you funded his leftovers. You might learn something.)

The point? The entrepreneur with his venture capital firm is one of those millionaires that some want to raise taxes on. If you take another 5% from him, that is 5% less that he can invest.

I am somewhat like him, on a much, much smaller scale. I am a serial entrepreneur. I can’t help myself. (Is there a 12-step program?) I won’t pretend that if my taxes go up 5% from where they are today, I won’t start or invest in a business if the right opportunity comes along. But that is 5% less that I have to use for risk capital. At some point along the tax curve the risk is not worth it. And that 5% may actually represent 30-50% of the annual growth in my risk capital, as venture capital is the very last part of my residual capital and income that gets allocated.

Multiply that by one million potential entrepreneurs, just in the US. There is a certain portion of the human breed that is by nature and instinct entrepreneurial. They see opportunity and look for ways and means to make it happen. Family, friends, and so-called “angel” investors fund these start-ups. More and more we see quasiformal networks of angel investors forming. They often go in together and mentor and help start-up companies and businesspeople.

These are the millionaires who are somehow not paying their fair share. Yes, there are Wall Street bankers and some professionals that make large salaries, but most of the high-income earners in the US are owners/founders/investors in small business, or got that way as a result of a small business that became larger and successful. Some become Bill Gates or Steve Jobs – the billionaires. But those successes are rare, very rare.

(Sidebar: I am so tired of hearing about Warren Buffet’s low tax rates. Berkshire Hathaway pays billions in taxes. Which, since Warren owns a chunk of BH, are essentially paid by him. Since he doesn’t require that much to live on, his effective tax is in the 1,000%-plus range. Therefore he pays a lot more than his secretary. )

Without growth in private GDP, or the portion of GDP that is not government-related, there will be no job growth for the rest of this decade. Private GDP has been flat for 15 years (in real terms). The chart below shows how important government spending has been to official GDP figures.

The “growth” of the economy has been in government spending and debt. But that source of growth is going away as governments are increasingly constrained by revenue losses and debt. We can talk all we want about how we need to make a commitment to government jobs, but the reality is that we are at the Endgame of government spending, both in the US and in Europe.

How do we grow our way out of the current crisis? We have to have more private-sector jobs. Period. End of story. And that means we have to figure out how to make it easier for entrepreneurs to find and access capital. Taking capital away from investors who fund these start-ups will not do the trick.

Let me hasten to say I am not against government spending or taxes. A certain level of government spending is necessary. And as I outlined at length in Endgame, I am all for increasing energy taxes (slowly over time), to be used 100% to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure (funding goes directly to local and state governments), which, yes, produces government-financed jobs. But we simply do not have the funds to take national taxes to fund local needs, no matter how worthy. If something is needed on a local or state level, that must become a local funding issue. If California wants to pay its prison guards $100,000 a year, that is their choice. Or pick a state, any state – they all have needs. We have plenty in Texas that needs funding, for sure.

It is time to hit the send button, so let me close by saying that we really do want your input on this new jobs book. Dunk and I and the other writers want to contribute to the national conversation that we must have next year. It is a very timely and worthy topic, and there is much more to say. It is not simply “support your new small businesses.” It is far more complex and will take a book to go into the detail that is needed.

We want your input and ideas. Put “jobs” in the subject line. Let’s start an adult conversation by exploring the nuances of how jobs are created and how we can help the process.

Kilkenny, Atlanta, DC, and Home

As noted at the top, I am in Kilkenny, Ireland. I got off the plane, drove to Kilkenny, and saw posters with quotes from me on the walls around town. That was different. I was almost immediately grabbed by host and event organizer David McWilliams, for what I was told was the #1 radio talk show in the country. Very thoughtful host and large, sold-out crowd for the show. The first panel session was tonight. I found myself in an unusual role. Normally I am the radical in the group. Here it was a very mixed crowd, liberals and conservatives and everyone ready to mix it up, along with some very funny stand-up comedians! And tomorrow I am on three panels or speaking events. Lots of readers were in the audience, and it is all quite fun; although, when I talk about reducing deficits I am not used to getting boos and cheers at the same time. Like I said, interesting and fun.

I am in Atlanta on Wednesday for the Hedge Fund Cares fundraiser (along with Tiffani). The team that is hosting the event wants me to point out that there are a few spots for lunch still available. Contact them for cost and details. It is at the Piedmont Driving Club, which is the most exclusive “old-money” club in Atlanta – Driving Miss Daisy was filmed there. It sounds like a really cool venue. And it is for charity. http://hedgefundscare.org/event.asp?eventID=74

I then go the following week to Washington, where I will be at the National UBS conference for a few days; and then I am home until mid-January, or at least I don’t have to get on a plane unless I want to. As much as I enjoy meeting people and seeing new places, I am looking forward to being home for an extended time.

Tomorrow I will wander around Kilkenny and visit the local castle and learn some of the history. This was the first capital of Ireland, and there are some VERY old buildings here (as in 900 years plus). And walking back tonight I got the sense of a very lovely place. I will probably want to come back.

Have a great week. And go out and tell an entrepreneur thanks.

Your hoping that I can be in that 20% a few times in a row analyst,

John Mauldin


Category: Employment, Think Tank

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11 Responses to “Where Will the Jobs Come From?”

  1. chartist says:

    I’d like to say, John is the most verbose windbag blogger I’ve ever read. I want to add that there are no jobs coming for the millions laid off in the last 4+ years. Their jobs went to China, and it was all by design. If the US was serious, they’d stop the tax incentives to ship jobs east and increase tariffs on imported goods from China.

    There is a boom coming from this middle class spark we started in China but the cost was high: sacrificing the livelihoods of 8 million Americans. It’s going to turn into a wild fire world-wide economy as 1.5 billion Chinese want what all folks want….But, the boom is maybe 6 to 8 years out as the world figures out the current debt situation and balance sheets are repaired. Kids in grade school today are fine, kids in college today are hosed.

  2. Sunny129 says:

    “wall mart moms’ survey’ – they said’ we all vote’!

    Vote for whom?

    Both parties are controlled by Corporatocracy. They control the Congress and the WH. Even GOP dominated 5-4 Supreme Court has declared that a Corporation is a Citizen and hence equal in rights! What are the chances of ordinary Joe vs Billions bank rolled Corporate interests? 90% Of MSM is controlled 5-6 mega Corporations. It is well known that they DON’T pay their fair share of taxes to their Society. They have continually RIGGED the rules of game in favor of them for decades at a cost to rest of the Society. Middle class peaked in 50s and in decline ever since! Now their survival is stake!

    There is NO Democracy but only Kleptocracy funded by Cororatocracy and Financial Oligarchy. Elections are joke!

    The top 1% have to convince the other 99% by their actions and NOT just rhetoric or fancy writing! Till then fight between ‘haves and have-nots’ will continue to expand. Some on valid reasons and some NOT so valid reasons!

  3. jeffg says:

    I really like John Maulden’s stuff a lot. That said, I don’t buy his “raise taxes on the rich, get less investment” theory. A dollar from a rich persons savings to a poor person will result in that dollar being instantly spent, and increased economic growth / jobs due to that spending. Whether that is fair or not to do is an entirely different discussion. If nothing else, if taxes on the rich were 70% (hypothetically), I would expect MORE venture capital investment, not less, since government would take 70% of any losses (through reduced taxes) that the current 35% or so take. Only putting up 30% of your money (70% tax rate = 70% loss to the government) would make people take more risk, not less.

  4. stevehar says:

    Re stupid animal tricks and: “We want to do a section on government policies that hurt job creation”.
    Why would you want to spend more intellectual capital on this?

    There is an entire cadre of think tanks, “policy proposals”, Rand-robots and 1% paymasters engaged in this feckless enterprise working in unison gor the Gipper.

    You could also go on a snark hunt for “job creators” Congressional District by Congressional District and tally-up lobbyist payments, tax loop-holes, and campaign contributions by these “JCs”.

    How about creating DOD jobs in service of stupid war tricks as a study area.

    You interested in jobs and real innovation for the future or more scrimmages in service of ideology.

  5. Jojo says:

    Mauldin wrote – And I know I have written this before, but it bears repeating. The correct answer then, as it is today, to the question, “Where will the jobs come from?” was “I don’t know, but they will.” That is what free markets and entrepreneurs do: they create jobs where none existed, given the chance.
    NO! That is old thinking that neglects to take into consideration continuing advances in automation AND continuing political support for the unrestricted offshoring/outsourcing of American jobs to other countries. Yes, we are in a new paradigm and the old solutions, like sitting on your arse and waiting for a recovery are not going to work anymore. This time really is different.

    There are 14 million [officially] unemployed workers in the USA (some who have been out of work for more than three years) and your solution for new jobs that will get them back to work is “Where will the jobs come from?” was “I don’t know, but they will.”??? Did you ever hear the phrase that “Hope is not a strategy”? Jeez.

    Some suggested reading Mauldin:
    October 23, 2011
    More Jobs Predicted for Machines, Not People

    A faltering economy explains much of the job shortage in America, but advancing technology has sharply magnified the effect, more so than is generally understood, according to two researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

    The automation of more and more work once done by humans is the central theme of “Race Against the Machine,” an e-book to be published on Monday.

    “Many workers, in short, are losing the race against the machine,” the authors write.

    Erik Brynjolfsson, an economist and director of the M.I.T. Center for Digital Business, and Andrew P. McAfee, associate director and principal research scientist at the center, are two of the nation’s leading experts on technology and productivity. The tone of alarm in their book is a departure for the pair, whose previous research has focused mainly on the benefits of advancing technology.



    Analysis: Rise of the machines: America’s jobs challenge

  6. Jojo says:

    I don’t drink coffee myself but maybe this is interesting to those that do:

  7. Jojo says:

    Damm. This post on coffee was for the weekend reads thread, not here. BR, delete this post and the coffee post form me if you come across it .

  8. Jan Rogozinski says:

    Dear Mr Maudlin:

    For the sake of us all, I hope that you and your Ayn-Randian friends have zero influence on future government policy.
    Here is reality.
    (1) No man (using the word in the normal classical sense, as including men and women) ever “made it on his own.” Period. The only way someone could do that is if he were dropped off in the forest somewhere naked at the age of two days. In reality, by the time you were, say, thirty, your family and an entire society had invested a great deal of time, talent, and an enormous amount of treasury (both private and governmental) in you. Merely think of all the time and capital invested by various level of government in your education.
    (2) Public employment must precede private employment. Without public employment, there can be no private employment. You Randians make precisely the same mistake, ironically, that Soviet Marxists did–that is, counting at zero the cost of capital embedded in public infrastructure, public education, national defense, etc. (In the 1970s, when my Polish cousins would build a factory, they counted only the direct cost of labor before building . Then they would wonder why thy could not pay off the loans to build those factories.)
    It really is true. Marxists believed in the “labor theory of value.” All value comes from labor; embedded public capital and public infrastructure are free. In 2011, the Republicans and the Tea Party believe in the very same labor theory of value as the Soviets. Thus they oppose any taxes on the rich because they believe (or pretend to believe that entrepreneurs and the rich “make it on their own” without any help from society. The problem is that, as a result of the Republicans following this failed Marxist theory, the US soon will resemble the Soviet Union in 1990.
    (3) Before any business person or any so-called “entrepreneur” can do anything, there must be an enormous amount of publicly funded infrastructure and society in which he can operate.
    I wish there was a law that all the Koches and Maudlins of this world would be prohibited from using public goods until they pay taxes equal to what their use of those pubic goods has cost the rest of us. I.e., they should not be allowed to use the roads until they and their corporation pay the total cost of their use of those roads (including the cost of dealing with climate change resulting from their carbon emissions.) Nor should they be allowed to fly in their luxury private jets until they pay the total cost of their use of public airspace. (Including, for example, the total cost of their share of keeping air-traffic controllers at work 24/7, so they can jet off whenever they feel like it. And the total cost of their share of the FAA inspecting planes so that they don’t fall out of the sky, hinting the Koch brothers’ luxury liners on the way to the ground.)
    And, of course, the rich, the top 1% and especially the top 0.01% use very much more that the rest of us of the police, fire-fighter, teachers (who educate their employees and then don’t charge companies for their services), physicals and workers in public hospitals, and all the governmental regulatory agencies that keep the rich and their employees from being poisoned by bad food, etc.).
    Plus, of course, the military that protect them and their vast holdings of property at enormous cost to the rest of us. Plus, of course, the stage agencies, Federal agencies and the diplomatic service that make it possible for them to operate their factories in other countries. Plus of course, their fair share of the cost of the public courts and prisons also protecting them and their vast property holdings. Plus of course the Federal Reserve and every government agency regulating banking and finance, which together maintain the solid currency, honest financial system, and low interest costs without which entrepreneurs could not operate at all. (Well, at least the agencies did so until Bush and the Republicans in Congress abolished Glass-Steagall and every other banking regulation, their abolishment being the sole and entire case of the crash of 2008.)
    In no case are the taxes entrepreneurs and the top 1% pay anything more than a tiny fraction of the vast subsidies they receive from the rest of us.
    (3) In your next book, I thus suggest you describe reality accurately. Devote the entirety of that book to all the ways governmental subside and governmental regulation make business possible. Make a comprehensive and complete list of all the ways in which both large coporations and small entrepreneurs alike could not operate at all–let alone successfully–without governmental subsidies and governmental regulation. Let the entire book tell the truth–that in 2011 we can only survive by large increases in government spending and by larger increases in taxes on corporations and the wealthy to pay for those increases in spending.

  9. victor says:

    I think we all know “where will the jobs come from”. Well, from a growing economy ; this requires time and it is time that nobody here has. Revival of the housing construction? this will be a long wait. Government spending? Paul Krugman advises for more stimulus via more borrowing, who knows he may be right, slim chance due to DC paralysis. More exports of capital goods and services ? Surprise! US already enjoys a SURPLUS in this category per link below, Obama aims at doubling our exports, tall order indeed. And then the usual suspects: info tech, retail, health care…end of story?


  10. victor says:

    @Jan Rogozinski: just a few observations. You write: “Public employment must precede private employment. Without public employment, there can be no private employment. ” But isn’t public employment today financed by the taxes private employment pay? “In the beginning” before formal taxation was invented, weren’t public employees financed via the good will of the community, notably its leaders? So what came first? Anthropology 101?

    Rep’s have been called many names but Marxists is a new one to me, an Independent.

    Careful, the Federal Reserve has both private and public aspects. Bush did a lot of damage, for which we all still pay; but the honor of abolishing the Glass-Steagall act belongs to the Clinton Admin (Bob Rubin) and, as you correctly point out the Rep. Congress, look it up here:


    Comparing the US with the USSR in 1990? No way. I wonder if you actually lived under a Marxist/Communist regime? I spent one third of my productive life there. Oh, you dont know the half of it! Nor should you wish to, that would require living and breathing the air there as a citizen of that regime. Just enjoy the life we all have here.

    Your expressed grievances about the taxation of the rich do resonate with many, incl. myself and your “that in 2011 we can only survive by large increases in government spending and by larger increases in taxes on corporations and the wealthy to pay for those increases in spending” is what Paul Krugman has been saying and so far he’s only got a tiny bit of Obama’s ear; go his blog or read his NYT opinions.

  11. johnn says:

    The claim is taxing the rich will reduce investment. I claim otherwise because *obviously* what the rich do with their wealth is not invest but mostly just buy diamonds, fur coats, and yachts. Mostly the rich just suck money out of the economy rather than putting it to productive use. Clearly the answer is move money out of their hands into the hand of those who be consumers — thus making for a more business friendly environment.

    Two theories — your trickle down theory and my theory that the rich are leeches.

    Who is right? How about some data? If John Maudlin is right then investment would be much higher now than in 1990-2000 resulting in many more new businesses in the 2001-2011 period than in the 1990-2000 period. Not only that, we should see that in the 1945-1970 period that there were no new businesses created because the rich were too highly taxed to invest anything at all.