North Korea has a population of around 24 million people but a photo released by NASA reveals that at night the country is almost completely dark compared to its neighbors China and South Korea. WSJ’s Monika Vosough reports. (NASA)

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23 Responses to “NASA Image Shows North Korea in the Dark”

  1. Iamthe50percent says:

    As dark as the ocean! Like Europe in the Dark Ages. Amazing!

  2. Stock Soup says:

    Ironically, dark skies are a dwindling ‘aesthetic resource.’

    When Galileo was alive, planets cast easily visible shadows. No longer. The reason: Light pollution.

    Honestly, everyone should take one dark sky trip in their life to look at the stars in an arid, moonless, cloudless location. The best option in America is northern Nevada.

    Guess what the brightest night object is at the Grand Canyon:

    Las Vegas! Yikes, that sucks,

    • Iamthe50percent says:

      Visited Kitt Peak in the mid-90′s. Awesome, but a scary ride down the mountain with no lights, even at 15 mph.

  3. Stock Soup says:

    another irony is one of the best preserved natural habitats in the world is the Korean DMZ

    just sayin’

  4. RW says:

    Photo’s of the Korean peninsula at night have been around awhile obviously but the light v. dark meme seems to have grown from a comment in a 2002 press briefing by Donald Rumsfeld viz “If you look at a picture from the sky of the Korean Peninsula at night, South Korea is filled with lights and energy and vitality and a booming economy; North Korea is dark.”

    The point comes up from time to time; e.g., 2011 in The Atlantic.

    It’s a powerful metaphor for a cruelly oppressive, psychotic tyranny; just wish it was more than that.

  5. CD4P says:

    That’s one looooooooooooooooooooooooooooong border with China!

    Probably purposely dark such as to make UFOs coming and going harder for the rest of the world to see.

  6. Lyle says:

    A related irony is the area around Chernobyl is now a good wildlife preserve, and species are returning to the pre human condition. (It is big enough to make an ecosystem)

  7. VennData says:

    And they have no minimum wage, low taxes, a vibrant elite trickling down their wealth, no gay marriage, no legal weed, and the other three-quarters of the GOP agenda including my personal favorite: Shut it Down!

  8. Low Budget Dave says:

    The only good news is that they aren’t checking their smartphones every ten seconds.

  9. Willy2 says:

    Switching off lightning at night/in the evening is a good start to save A LOT OF energy. Should be implemented in the US ASAP.

  10. bgad says:

    They should be commended for their eco-conciousness

  11. sellstop says:

    A few days ago I was looking at N. Korea with Google Earth. I did not see a single car.

  12. egreen711 says:

    Thank God the U.S. bombed the crap out of that place about a half century ago, killed a few million people, and then imposed a suffocating embargo that has lasted to this day. It’s always good to root for the bully against the little guy. After all, that’s the American Way! And it lets you all sound so sanctimonious to boot!

    • Iamthe50percent says:

      China respects that embargo? Russia too?

      • egreen711 says:

        What would happen to the U.S. economy, if, after it was laid to waste, most trade and investment was cut off by much, much bigger outside powers for more than half a century. Can you imagine? No, I guess you can’t.

      • Dennis?

        Dennis Rodman?

        Is that you?

    • Willy2 says:

      Agree. The embargo has allowed Kim Jung-Un & Co. to tighten their grip on society and made the life of the average north korean (very) miserable.

      Time to end the embargo.

  13. victor says:

    Minuscule carbon footprint, Supreme Commander fat boy Kim Jong-un poised to make fortunes in cap and trade schemes with carbon credits hungry, decadent West.

  14. egreen711 says:

    Barry, look around you.

    Supreme Commander fat boy Kim Jong-un never invaded and occupied Iraq for its oil, or Afghanistan for who knows what reason. Neither is he the only disgusting dictator in the world who imprisons his own people. The Saudi government’s morality police imprisons women for daring to drive cars, and plenty of governments supported by the U.S. stone women for adultery. But since these governments are considered “allies,” they are not run by “crazy” fat boys, but “moderates.”

  15. egreen711 says:

    For a revisionist view of North Korea with some kind of historical perspective, try reading Bruce Cumings. No, he’s not Dennis Rodman.

    • victor says:

      You’re right! If bad US would just get out of the way, young Kim Jong-un would: 1) start receiving Nutrisystem meals via FedEx, 2) turn his nuclear weapons program into peaceful, clean nuclear power plants with the aid of GE/Hitachi/Areva/Siemens 3) start making Androids and Hyundai’s in his sprawling Gulag facilities.

      • egreen711 says:

        Demonization never allowed anyone to understand anything. As for Gulags, you don’t have to go all the way to North Korea to find them. The government of the United States of America runs the biggest prison system in the world right here. Also, be careful what you think, because the NSA is listening and recording everything. But I guess when when that stuff is done here, it is to defend freedom and democracy and the American Way.

  16. victor says:

    OK Dennis, you win! You can go back now to Kim Jong-un and claim your cookie (not the ones made with saw dust and widely available to the masses).