Posts filed under “Cycles”

The recession is over but the depression has just begun

Edward Harrison here. This is an updated version of a post I wrote about two-and-a-half months ago over at Credit Writedowns.  When I wrote it, I had been looking for bullish data points as counterfactuals to my bearish long-term outlook. I found some, but not nearly enough.

Early this year, I wrote a post “We are in depression”, which called the ongoing downturn a depression with a small ‘d.’ I was optimistic that policymakers could engineer a fake recovery predicated on stimulus and asset price reflation – and this was bullish for financial shares if not the broader stock market. But, we are witnessing temporary salves for a deeper structural problem.

So my goal was to find data which disproved my original thesis. But, I came away more convinced that we are in a tenuous cyclical upturn. This post will discuss why we are in a depression, not a recession and what this means about likely future economic and investing paths. I pull together a number of threads from previous posts, so it is pretty long.  I have shortened it in order to pull all of the ideas into one post. So, please read the linked posts for background as I left out a lot of the detail in order to create this narrative.

Let’s start here then with the crux of the issue: debt.

Deep recession rooted in structural issues

Back in my first post at Credit Writedowns in March 2008, I said that the U.S. was already in a recession, the only question being how deep and how long. The issue was and still is overconsumption i.e. levels of consumption supported only by increase in debt levels and not by future earnings. This is the core of our problem – debt.

I see the debt problem as an outgrowth of pro-growth, anti-recession macroeconomic policy which developed as a reaction to the 1970s lost decade trauma in the U.S. and the U.K.. The 70s was a low growth, high inflation ride that generated poor market returns.  The U.K. became the sick man of Europe and labor strife brought the economy to its knees.  For the U.S., we saw the resignation of an American President and the humiliation of the Iran Hostage Crisis.

In essence, after the inflationary outcome that many saw as an outgrowth of the Samuelson-Keynesianism of the 1960s and 1970s, the Reagan-Thatcher era of the 1990s ushered in a more ‘free-market’ orientation in macroeconomic policy. The key issue was government intervention. Policy makers following Samuelson (more so than Keynes himself) have stressed the positive effect of government intervention, pointing to the Great Depression as animus, and the New Deal, and World War II as proof. Other economists (notably Milton Friedman, and later Robert Lucas) have stressed the primacy of markets, pointing to the end of Bretton Woods, the Nixon Shock and stagflation as counterfactuals. They point to the Great Moderation and secular bull market of 1982-2000 as proof. This is a divisive and extremely political issue, in which the two sides have been labeled Freshwater and Saltwater economists (see my post “Freshwater versus saltwater circa 1988”).

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Category: Asset Allocation, Credit, Cycles, Taxes and Policy

Galbraith: Financial stability creates instability

By now, you have heard the term ‘Minsky moment.’ It was coined by Pimco’s Paul McCulley to describe events in Russia that precipitated the LTCM crisis.  McCulley was referring to economist Hyman Minsky’s concept that long periods of stability cause people to take on ever more debt and ever more risk, leading to a gigantic…Read More

Category: Credit, Cycles, Regulation

It Was the Worst of Times . . .

Floyd Norris channels Dickens to discuss the Worst of Times (employment wise): “The overall unemployment rate, which reached 10.2% on a seasonally adjusted basis last month, remains below the post-World War II peak of 10.8 percent, reached in late 1982. But the proportion of workers who have been out of work for a long time…Read More

Category: Cycles, Employment

New Yorker: The Secret Cycle

Fascinating New Yorker piece on Martin Armstrong, a technical analysts/cycle forecaster I have been reading about for some time — his is a long sordid tale, but the bottom line is he is in jail. Its his cycle work that is so fascinating. Nick Paumgarten looks at his attempts to predict the financial markets using…Read More

Category: Cycles, Technical Analysis

Mohamed El-Erian vs Lakshman Achuthan

Econo-Smackdown! Here’s an interesting difference of opinion: PIMCO‘s Mohamed El-Erian believes a return to the old ways of thinking threatens recovery. ECRI‘s Lakshman Achuthan disagrees, stating the U.S. economic recovery is ‘far from fragile.’ • Return of the old ways of thinking threatens recovery • U.S. economic recovery is ‘far from fragile’-ECRI Gotta love it…Read More

Category: Cycles, Economy

Andy Xie: New Bubble Threatens a V-Shaped Rebound

Former Morgan Stanley Analyst Andy Xie explains why this will not be a regular cyclical recovery following the credit collapse and great Recession:

“In a normal economic cycle, an inventory-led recovery would be followed by corporate capital expenditure, leading to employment expansion. Rising employment leads to consumption growth, which expands profitability and more capex. Why won’t it work this time? The reason, as I have argued before, is that a big bubble distorted the global economic structure. Re-matching supply and demand will take a long time.

The process is called Schumpeterian creative destruction. Keynesian thinking ignores structural imbalance and focuses only on aggregate demand. In normal situations, Keynesian thinking is fine. However, when a recession is caused by the bursting of a big bubble, Keynesian thinking no longer works.

Many policymakers actually don’t think along the line of Keynes versus Schumpeter. They think in terms of creating another bubble to fight the recessionary impact of a bubble burst. This type of thinking is especially popular in China and on Wall Street. Central banks around the world, although they haven’t done so deliberately, have created another liquidity bubble. It manifested itself first in surging commodity prices, next in stock markets, and lately in some property markets. Will this strategy succeed? I don’t think so.”

Full article after the jump


Andy Xie: New Bubble Threatens a V-Shaped Rebound
08-20 08:04
Caijing Magazine

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Category: Cycles, Economy, Markets, Psychology

Harvard’s Feldstein: Beware the ‘Double-Dip’

“There is a real danger this is going to be a double dip and that after six months or so we’ll have some more bad news.  We could slide down again in the fourth quarter.” -Martin Feldstein > Normally, I don’t get too excited when some economist or another makes these proclamations. However, Feldstein is…Read More

Category: Cycles, Economy

Art Cashin on Secular Cycles

Art Cashin has been on a floor broker on the NYSE for UBS for as long as I can remember. His daily missives on CNBC are the highlight of their broadcast day. “Back On The Cycle – David Rosenberg, formerly chief economist at Merrill Lynch and now at Gluskin Sheff was a guest host on…Read More

Category: Cycles, Markets, Technical Analysis

Trader Talk With Art Cashin

Art Cashin, head of floor operations at UBS, has the latest buzz from the NYSE.

Airtime: Tues. Jul. 7 2009

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Category: Cycles, Video