Posts filed under “Valuation”

How Cheap Are Stocks ?

One of our intermediate concerns about equities involves valuations. While we recently made a short term buy call, that is merely a trade that could possibly run for a couple of weeks or months — but not much longer. That call certainly wasn’t made because stocks are such screaming bargains.

As to valuations: Its hard to really say that stocks are cheap here. At best, I believe we can argue that — assuming that historically high earnings do not fade — that stocks are not terribly expensive. But that is very different than saying they are cheap.

Have a look at this lovely table from Dow Jones Market Data Center:

Stocks Are Not Cheap


You can also see the Yields On Dow Stocks here (Thanks, Tim!)


These are not the sorts of valuations you find at the end of Bear markets.  And, James Montier points out a factoid that makes the above even worse: Analysts lag reality. James adds the damning observation that "They only change their minds when there is irrefutable proof they were wrong, and then only change their minds very slowly."

Have a look at his chart below: It is a linear time trend out of operating earnings and the analyst forecasts of those earnings (so the chart simply plots deviations from trend in $ per share terms).



As the red line in the chart shows, the earnings recession is just now beginning. But as the black line reveals, analysts have yet to lower their earnings numbers. Montier notes that the downgrading of estimates has been highly constrained to the financials (and to a lesser extent the consumer sector in the US for 2007).

Roughly speaking US earnings ex financials have been revised down by 1.5% compared to nearer 4% for the market as a whole.

Thus, our contention that markets have only priced in a short, shallow recession . . .


Asleep at the wheel, or, How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
James Montier
Apr 07 2008, 02:52 PM

Schwab Asks Who Needs Analysts After Biggest Flub    
Michael Tsang and Eric Martin 
Bloomberg, April 7 2008

Category: Earnings, Economy, Markets, Trading, Valuation

5 Reasons Why Bank Stocks Have Not Bottomed

Category: Credit, Earnings, Employment, Valuation

Today’s Rumor: Bear Goes Belly Up (Who’s next?)

Category: Corporate Management, Finance, Investing, Valuation

S&P500 Earnings for 2007: Down -4.2%

Category: Earnings, Valuation

Barrons Review: Is the Magic back at Disney?

Category: Contrary Indicators, Corporate Management, Financial Press, Quantitative, Technical Analysis, Valuation

WTF Headline of the Day: “Dow 18,500? Believe It”

Category: Earnings, Economy, Investing, Markets, Psychology, Valuation

AIG: Don’t Try to Catch the Falling Knife

Category: Derivatives, Quantitative, Technical Analysis, Valuation

Was a Private Equity Bid for Yahoo Thwarted by Microsoft ?

Category: Corporate Management, M&A, Valuation, Web/Tech

Yahoo to Microsoft: No, Thank You

Category: Corporate Management, M&A, Valuation, Web/Tech

ISM Services Index: Look out below!

One of the themes we have been hearing of late is that stocks, 10% off of their all time highs, are fully reflecting a recession.

That statement turns out to be, um, a tad less than accurate, as was shown by the most recent ISM non-manufacturing Index. Headlines such as Services Data Blindsides Market reveal how little the market actually had priced in even a mild recession, much less a deeper and longer one.

  The ISM’s non-manufacturing
index reflects almost 90% of the economy, according to Bloomberg. Consensus expectations of 53% were dashed, as the index plummeted to ~41.0%. to the lowest level since October 2001. If we exclude 9/11, this was the weakest reading since the data began in 1997.   

In response, all 10 industry groups in the S&P 500 declined, and the Dow dropped 220 points.

Across the board, the data released was surprisingly weak:

Business Activity Index at 41.9% (consistent with a recession historically)
New Orders Index at 43.5%  (fell 10 pts)
Employment Index at 43.9% (An 8 point fall, matching the lowest on record).
Prices Paid remained elevated at 70.7

This is particularly surprising, as we recently learned from the WSJ OpEd pages that The U.S. Economy Is Fine (Really). I haven’t figured out why those pages insist on denying reality, but its their option to live in an alternative universe (Iraq has WMDs, economy is great, etc.)

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Category: Economy, Markets, Valuation